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Girl Pack discussion thread

Started by Leortha, May 09, 2022, 09:45 PM

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Goldo

Quote from: RatedNaughty on Nov 24, 2023, 04:11 AMQuick Question since I haven't seen any information in regards to it for the Girl Packs.

I'm seeing some girl folders have some subfolder that either contain additional images, video, files, or even sound.

-Do I need to move those files into the main folder (where the majority of the images are) or I can leave them in those folder's?
-Do I also need to change sound files to anything else or move them?
-I also notice some of the image files are Jpeg instead of webp, is it okay to leave it as is or do I need to change the files to webp?

BK supports the following file formats:
VIDEOFORMATS = (".webm", ".mkv", ".avi", ".mpg", ".mpeg") # Took out ".mp4" because of missing codecs
    IMGFORMATS = (".jpg", ".jpeg", ".png", ".bmp", ".gif", ".webp") # animated gifs and .webp do not work in Ren'py for now

For audio, it's down to the formats supported by native Ren'Py:
QuoteRen'Py supports playing music and sound effects in the background, using the following audio file formats:
    Opus
    Ogg Vorbis
    MP3
    MP2
    FLAC
    WAV (uncompressed 16-bit signed PCM only)
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komosha

Hi, working on a girl pack but I'm seeing pictures show up when I don't want them to, for example my geisha pictures are being used for characters working a different job. Pretty sure I'm making some kind of mistake with the tagging, anyone know how to make sure certain tags only appear in certain situations?

neronero

#107
Quote from: komosha on Dec 27, 2023, 12:41 AMHi, working on a girl pack but I'm seeing pictures show up when I don't want them to, for example my geisha pictures are being used for characters working a different job. Pretty sure I'm making some kind of mistake with the tagging, anyone know how to make sure certain tags only appear in certain situations?
It really depends on the exact situation, so there's no hard and fast rule for tagging things 'right'. The game tries to accomodate very detailed/intricately tagged girlpacks while also supporting simpler girlpacks.

If you mean the profile pictures for a geisha girl, that pic would use these criteria:
"profile" + NOT the tags ["rest", "wet", "beach", "public"] + NOT the tags ["waitress", "dancer", "masseuse"]

In other words, if you have a lot of 'non-job/generic' profile pictures then it'll become less likely that your pictures specifically tagged with "geisha" will be on display here.

It may sound a bit counter-intuitive that the game doesn't look directly for the job tag. In this specific case, since it's a picture you'll see so often, the game considers variety important enough to cast a very wide net when searching for a suitable picture.

edit: While performing, "geisha" pics are a fallback option for waitressing if no suitable "waitress" image is found. Maybe that's what you ran into?
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saucyboi35

Ive never seen any guy packs around, are they just hard to find or not welcome?

asmox

#109
Just curious - what sorts of tags do people prefer to use for thighjobs, assjobs, and rimjobs given to her (not by her)? Doesn't seem like there are specific tags for these and every tag combo I think of feels inappropriate in one way or another. Do you just use service without any optionals?

Yasaki74

Quote from: saucyboi35 on Dec 31, 2023, 11:44 PMIve never seen any guy packs around, are they just hard to find or not welcome?
well the game was made for girls only so if you want a guy pack then it's kinda hard to find one, you might have to create one yourselves but even that, the game only made for girlpacks only since it's more fitting

Goldo

Quote from: saucyboi35 on Dec 31, 2023, 11:44 PMIve never seen any guy packs around, are they just hard to find or not welcome?

Not unwelcome, but the game just doesn't support it so descriptions etc. would likely be very off, and it would be a lot of work to change that that I don't think anyone is willing to take on. You can create male packs for all practical purposes by tagging any pictures you like for the game.
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Goldo

Quote from: asmox on Jan 01, 2024, 03:20 AMJust curious - what sorts of tags do people prefer to use for thighjobs, assjobs, and rimjobs given to her (not by her)? Doesn't seem like there are specific tags for these and every tag combo I think of feels inappropriate in one way or another. Do you just use service without any optionals?

'Fetish' is probably the appropriate one here, either with no particular fixation or the 'femdom' one (using the 'dom' tag).
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trtl

Does anyone have the Palutena pack? the link in the spread sheet takes you to shantae and Albedo packs, no Palutena.

I could make one, but why shovel moved dirt if someone can find the original.

nemojason

Hello :) , i like this game and i started to create some girls pack for my pleasure,so i wonder if there are a clear tutorial for help ? ...It seem i finish to collected and tagged the images for my first girl, but i'm not sure if i did well, i try to search info but seem it's not too clear in my mind .... about the picture resolution do i must keep the original one or do i convert them into a   optimal resolution?? i use xnconvert and i'm not sure if the image keep safe if i change the resolution of picture. my other problem is about the tag, when as I read the forum, I have the impression that I'm falling into a bottomless shaft because I feel I've done it wrong, which is why I'm asking if there isn't a clear and precise tutorial. Sorry, for my english, it's not my native language.....

vadi92

Quote from: nemojason on Jan 28, 2024, 08:21 PMHello :) , i like this game and i started to create some girls pack for my pleasure,so i wonder if there are a clear tutorial for help ? ...It seem i finish to collected and tagged the images for my first girl, but i'm not sure if i did well, i try to search info but seem it's not too clear in my mind .... about the picture resolution do i must keep the original one or do i convert them into a   optimal resolution?? i use xnconvert and i'm not sure if the image keep safe if i change the resolution of picture. my other problem is about the tag, when as I read the forum, I have the impression that I'm falling into a bottomless shaft because I feel I've done it wrong, which is why I'm asking if there isn't a clear and precise tutorial. Sorry, for my english, it's not my native language.....

For tagging there are some tip's here.

For pic's resolution it's better if you resize it. It will take less space that way. (The game dont care about the picture resolution either way even if you resized it or not). Another way the make the girlpack take up less space if you convert it into webp.

nemojason

Quote from: vadi92 on Jan 29, 2024, 04:19 PM
Quote from: nemojason on Jan 28, 2024, 08:21 PMHello :) , i like this game and i started to create some girls pack for my pleasure,so i wonder if there are a clear tutorial for help ? ...It seem i finish to collected and tagged the images for my first girl, but i'm not sure if i did well, i try to search info but seem it's not too clear in my mind .... about the picture resolution do i must keep the original one or do i convert them into a  optimal resolution?? i use xnconvert and i'm not sure if the image keep safe if i change the resolution of picture. my other problem is about the tag, when as I read the forum, I have the impression that I'm falling into a bottomless shaft because I feel I've done it wrong, which is why I'm asking if there isn't a clear and precise tutorial. Sorry, for my english, it's not my native language.....

For tagging there are some tip's here.

For pic's resolution it's better if you resize it. It will take less space that way. (The game dont care about the picture resolution either way even if you resized it or not). Another way the make the girlpack take up less space if you convert it into webp.

:D Thanks for the tip, for the webp convert i did it, but i don t know for resize because often i have problem with picture which become blurred... hmm can I share my first try and tell me what went wrong with tag and resolution for that I can rectify it?

https://mega.nz/file/BixUyKgb#dQS5NqrT0xbh171udbs93XAnRFYOTtFDmvlf0Xcwsi4

nemojason

#117
after reading the first part of manual, i remember of problem for tagging : for example i have a picture of girl who dances with a bunny clothes, but with the tagger when i click on "Dancer" i don t have "Bunny" option so i selected "waitress" + "dancer" + "bunny" for tag the picture, am i wrong to do that ? i think that my problem is that I automatically try to describe the image faithfully.... I just modify my wrong tag "Group" + "Bisexual", i read badly the description of this tags .

i'm not sure if i understand well for the tag "big" : i shouldn't  add "Big" with "monster", "beast" and "machine" and "big" if just for human partner, should i ???

vadi92

Quote from: nemojason on Jan 29, 2024, 08:23 PMfor example i have a picture of girl who dances with a bunny clothes

For this you can go with: dancer cosplay bunny

"Group" tag is used when there are 2 guy's in the pic. If there are more then you can add the "orgy" tag next to it. "Bisexual" is used when there are 2 girl's and one guy (hidden or not).

Quote from: nemojason on Jan 29, 2024, 08:23 PMi'm not sure if i understand well for the tag "big" : i shouldn't  add "Big" with "monster", "beast" and "machine" and "big" if just for human partner, should i

Well the tag "big" is used for the "farm" in the game. So i would say you can use it even if it's for a non human partner.

nemojason

#119
Quote from: vadi92 on Jan 30, 2024, 04:04 PM
Quote from: nemojason on Jan 29, 2024, 08:23 PMfor example i have a picture of girl who dances with a bunny clothes

For this you can go with: dancer cosplay bunny

"Group" tag is used when there are 2 guy's in the pic. If there are more then you can add the "orgy" tag next to it. "Bisexual" is used when there are 2 girl's and one guy (hidden or not).

Quote from: nemojason on Jan 29, 2024, 08:23 PMi'm not sure if i understand well for the tag "big" : i shouldn't  add "Big" with "monster", "beast" and "machine" and "big" if just for human partner, should i

Well the tag "big" is used for the "farm" in the game. So i would say you can use it even if it's for a non human partner.

Thanks for you help  :) .... i don't see the "orgy" tag on tag tool "Picture tagger for Bk 2.8.14" i use group by defaut and Bisexual like u said for 1 guy and 2 girls...

for "Big" yes i think u right because in the guide that i try to translate-> it seems to me that there's a contradiction between the guide and the game I played.
In the guide i can read :"

In-game there are various stations :
- The Stables (Stallions, uses 'Big' tag)
- The pig stall (Beasts, uses 'Beast' tag)
- The monster den (Monsters, uses 'Monster' tag)
- The workshop (Machines, uses 'Machine' tag)

Big
Does not work if 'big' has more than one sex tag
This farm tag can be combined with fixations to be used in normal training and can be used in whoring
job (If it has 'sex' tag etc...)
Involves training with partner with unrealistically large penis. Alternatively, unrealistically large body
Please don't combine 'big' tag with any other farm tags since it is used in regular training
Partner is human

"end of quote

So at the end of big tag it say that partner is human but if we read the tag of farm, stable = stallion, it makes me confused lol  it seem me that in the game we don t see any horse in the farm just monster or machine...or may be i miss something in the game...

i see too that the tag tool is not optimal for lesbian and futunari tags....hmm for ex we don't have possibility of tag a group of lesbian, it's not logic because we can't distinguish a lesbian orgy from a simple lesbian couple...