For discussion about the 1.10.6 release.
See Development > Kisekae, there's a guide for it on Modding Guides, though it needs updating to mention the new systems.
Does anyone know how to remove the hypnosis cooldown? I remember doing it on the beta version but I forget how without the old forums for reference. Also, that might be a good thing to be able to change in settings if it isn't already because the current cooldown is just way too much for me personally since it already takes so long to level hypnosis.
Edit: Resolved, thanks weatherman5 for the help
Does the update that fixes the hypnosis error popups work in a live game, or do I have to start over?
I can't really put this in the bug section because I have no errors and can't even begin to know what might be causing it, but I've been having problems getting the Swimming Club scenes, even generic ones, to proc. Also, the theater club and Ameli Coopers quests just dies if I support the president.
Quote from: MaskedAccount on Jun 04, 2022, 03:39 AMDoes the update that fixes the hypnosis error popups work in a live game, or do I have to start over?
It works with live game but you have to follow the instruction on how the live game have to be updated. The instruction is present in the release thread.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Jun 04, 2022, 01:23 PMI can't really put this in the bug section because I have no errors and can't even begin to know what might be causing it, but I've been having problems getting the Swimming Club scenes, even generic ones, to proc. Also, the theater club and Ameli Coopers quests just dies if I support the president.
In 1.10 most of scenes are less RNG dependent but require more specific conditions to be met. It's very likely that you need more corrupted level of school.
Quote from: Umgah on Jun 05, 2022, 06:47 AMQuote from: Zaiaku on Jun 04, 2022, 01:23 PMI can't really put this in the bug section because I have no errors and can't even begin to know what might be causing it, but I've been having problems getting the Swimming Club scenes, even generic ones, to proc. Also, the theater club and Ameli Coopers quests just dies if I support the president.
In 1.10 most of scenes are less RNG dependent but require more specific conditions to be met. It's very likely that you need more corrupted level of school.
Ah, I see, well thank ye Umgah.
In advance I apologize in case this isn't where I should be asking, is there a way to disable the paperdolls appearing everywhere on-screen?
Quote from: ZethSet on Jun 05, 2022, 10:23 PMIn advance I apologize in case this isn't where I should be asking, is there a way to disable the paperdolls appearing everywhere on-screen?
Yes. Check settings windows (you may need to scroll down).
Quote from: Umgah on Jun 05, 2022, 10:25 PMQuote from: ZethSet on Jun 05, 2022, 10:23 PMIn advance I apologize in case this isn't where I should be asking, is there a way to disable the paperdolls appearing everywhere on-screen?
Yes. Check settings windows (you may need to scroll down).
God am I blind, found it! Thanks a lot~
I kinda like it. Definitely makes the place feel more lived-in.
How does hypnosis chance work? I've used the debug menu to set my Hypno skill to 100 and the target's willpower to 1, and it still fails like 20% of the time.
I seem to have a hard time having the SPE event firing. I've been going in and out of the computer class for multiple ingame days and yet somehow it just won't start
Quote from: Cplyeet on Jun 11, 2022, 11:13 PMI seem to have a hard time having the SPE event firing. I've been going in and out of the computer class for multiple ingame days and yet somehow it just won't start
What's your corruption level?
Quote from: Zaiaku on Jun 11, 2022, 11:49 PMQuote from: Cplyeet on Jun 11, 2022, 11:13 PMI seem to have a hard time having the SPE event firing. I've been going in and out of the computer class for multiple ingame days and yet somehow it just won't start
What's your corruption level?
7.5 currently
Quote from: Cplyeet on Jun 12, 2022, 12:20 AM7.5 currently
As far as I know, that's FAR too low for anything regarding Secret Panty Club.
Quote from: squark on Jun 12, 2022, 03:00 AMQuote from: Cplyeet on Jun 12, 2022, 12:20 AM7.5 currently
As far as I know, that's FAR too low for anything regarding Secret Panty Club.
Ah I see. Since I found this game on F95zone and I was trying to follow a guide there but it didn't mention anything about the corruption requirements
The problem with the guide is that it was built of the 1.9.5 version so it's outdated because a lot of the under-the-hood systems that were changed. Oh sure, the special character corruption guides are still followable but there will be some differences. Speaking of, during the Theatre Club, I sided with the club president and now even the Ameli Coppers line stopped.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Jun 13, 2022, 01:35 AMThe problem with the guide is that it was built of the 1.9.5 version so it's outdated because a lot of the under-the-hood systems that were changed. Oh sure, the special character corruption guides are still followable but there will be some differences. Speaking of, during the Theatre Club, I sided with the club president and now even the Ameli Coppers line stopped.
How far did you get with Ameli before hitting your stop?
I made to the theatre club and then nothing for in-game weeks.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Jun 14, 2022, 02:39 AMI made to the theatre club and then nothing for in-game weeks.
here is some rundown for the Theater club from some text with guides. Old but still usable:
Spoiler
>Theater Club
:: Strongly recommended to max relationship with (and corrupt) Stacy Slutzky beforehand.
:: This chain will freeze early on until Amelia Coppers joins and abandons the club. See: the Maid Club chain.
1.) Classroom 2, 16:00-18:00: President dispute with members. Wait 1 day for Event #2.
a.) "Club president" if player's Authority is 60+ (due to stat gains, this is strongly preferred if possible)
b.) "Members" if president's Loyalty is 30+ [OR] president's Willpower is less than 70.
c.) "Neither" is automatic failure and loss of authority.
d.) "Hypnotize" success formula based on Hypnotize skill, President's Willpower & President's Loyalty.
2.) Classroom 2, 16:00-18:00: Request for an area to perform. (The Cabaret)
(The Caberet is used by the Cooking, Music, and Theater clubs. For information on unlocking it, see
the Cooking Club Events #5, #9, amd #10. Depending on which clubs you have and their status, some
steps may be skipped over here since their requirements with the Cabaret may already be met. )
3.) Cabaret/Dining Room, 17:00-19:00: Modelling show. Repeats every day. Cycles through 11 mini-scenes.
4.) Cabaret/Dining Room, 17:00-19:00: Wardrobe malfunction. Wait 1 day for Event #5.
(Save before starting this. The random club member that is the victim requires 40+ Corruption and
less than 60 Inhibition in order to proceed to the following choices. Otherwise the event will
repeat in 7 days. The President can be ousted if the club's average stats meet the requirement
but the president does not. It just causes a mini-event to be injected here.)
a.) "Greed" if President's [AND] Club's Corruption are both 50+
b.) "Exhibitionism" if President's [AND] Club's Inhibition are both less than 50.
c.) "Hypnotize" success formula based on Hypnotize skill, President's Willpower & President's Loyalty.
5.) Any Location: Approach Stacy Slutzky, Chat/Talk About Property/"Discreet Room". Wait 3 days for Event #6.
(Note 1: Save first. The outcome of this is decided by Stacy's "Corruption + Lust - Inhibition". The
result must be 51+ at least. The decision to lie or tell the truth doesn't affect the fail rate,
it only changes spoken words.)
(Note 2: Before going any further, max your relationship with Stacy Slutzky. There are several possible
rent payment outcomes, ranging from $1000/week to $500/week. Relationship of 100 makes rent $500/week.)
6.) Any Location: Approach Stacy Slutzky, Chat/Talk About Property. Cabaret Club Bar is ready.
7.) Cabaret/Dining Room, 17:00-19:00: Move to Cabaret Club Bar.
8.) Cabaret/Club Bar, 20:00-23:00: [There are no events for this location as of v1.9.5]
[end of chain] There is another tier to this club ("Forniphilia Club") not yet implemented in v1.9.5.
btw... I know it is not said in guide, but you need to have a club president to some critical events to trigger.
And you cant have a CP if nobody in the club have an authority lower than 20. So if nobody have enough authority, you need to edit some of the club members and they will become a president.
Quote from: barteke22 on Jun 06, 2022, 10:16 PMMost clubs require at least 5 members + someone with 20+ authority to elect a president.
Original text is inside. I think it will help to some of players ) I know, it helps me )
Is it still possible to adjust the population distribution via config, as it was before? The main config file seems to have lost the relevant sections.
EDIT: Never mind, this is answered in Gameplay Questions (it's in Schools\NormalSchool\PopulationData\Sources\StudentAny.xml, if anyone else is wondering).
Oddity:
I have applied the 1.10.0.2 patch. Examining the .exe properties, it still says it's 1.10.0.1.
Question about quest "Missing Girl". I have elslave her. But I can't feed and torture her when I want to do this. What kind of slave is this? I have strong mind dissonance in this quest.
Quote from: Tuor3d on Jun 22, 2022, 08:49 PMQuestion about quest "Missing Girl". I have elslave her. But I can't feed and torture her when I want to do this. What kind of slave is this? I have strong mind dissonance in this quest.
You can only train or feed a slave every 24 hours.
You can feed her more than every 24 hours (every 8, I think), so you can use the 24-hourly opportunity exclusively for training, and still keep her well-fed.
Books intended as "Gifts" (as in, Comic Books, Sci-Fi Novels, etc.) shouldn't be tagged as "Storable". Doesn't break anything; just an annoyance.
Are there enough fixes and changes internally to commit to 1.10.0.3 yet?
Not trying to rush you, just remembering how fast 1.10.0.1 and 1.10.0.2 happened.
I have forwarded your request to the engineering team (jk).
If I postpone the GenSex image expansion support, can probably release what's done as the most critical stuff was taken care of in the last few days. Though need to check with the others to see if they've got anything left.
This patch is a lot of misc fixes to chains, which would normally break them, but I'd say there's a solid 6.5/10 that existing saves will be fine vs the previous 0/10 - as object/event reloading was improved a bit.
Gotta say I'm interested in those goals. Obviously, we're in the "bare bones barely showing you what our plans are" stage, but will these goals change certain gameplay elements?
It's related to this https://gitgud.io/hhs/hhs-events/-/issues/19
Grabbed the latest release today to start a new game.
Thoughts:
I wish you had included Shilo's dev blog about population generation in the docs folder as it has changed significantly and much of what was located in the Schools/NormalSchool/Config/DefaultGameConfig.xml file has been moved to other locations, without a pointer in the file to the new locations.
It makes it much harder to tailor your population before a new game. I understand it allows for more variety, at the expense of simplicity and you only need to do it if you want to change the default population, but having it all in one place in the config folder would seem like a better location for the files, as they only get referenced when starting a new game.
As it is, I cannot start a new game until I find the appropriate dev blog and read up on the changes, and see if I can understand what I would like to change, and which files might have that information.
Edit: Found the blog post in the development section, now I have questions about the weighting in DefaultGameConfig.xml for the population data. The total of the weighting numbers exceeds 100 so the weighting is not based on a percentage like in the student or adult files where the weighting seems to always equal 100 and controls the ratio of male, female, and futa students. How does the weighting apply in initial population generation?
You know I have always been reading about this Shimakaze quest on the computer and I have to ask. Is that restricted to male!Principal only?
Quote from: Zaiaku on Jul 23, 2022, 10:34 PMYou know I have always been reading about this Shimakaze quest on the computer and I have to ask. Is that restricted to male!Principal only?
No. Principals of any gender can do that.
Cool.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Jul 23, 2022, 10:34 PMYou know I have always been reading about this Shimakaze quest on the computer and I have to ask. Is that restricted to male!Principal only?
I believe the character it deals with is attracted 100/0/0 (M/F/H) to the genders, but he'll still be happy with the questline work (and post-questline, you can always convince characters that have zero like for your PC's gender to have sex and confess love anyways, see April and Max Raymund for characters that are 100% straight but not quest protected)
Sorry, I've been having trouble having the quest fire. I know you're supposed to go through the chatrooms, but other than that, I got nothing.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Jul 24, 2022, 08:01 PMSorry, I've been having trouble having the quest fire. I know you're supposed to go through the chatrooms, but other than that, I got nothing.
I've never encountered it by chatting, only by hacking student social media.
Quote from: Furrin Gok on Jul 24, 2022, 09:03 PMQuote from: Zaiaku on Jul 24, 2022, 08:01 PMSorry, I've been having trouble having the quest fire. I know you're supposed to go through the chatrooms, but other than that, I got nothing.
I've never encountered it by chatting, only by hacking student social media.
:-[
I was thinking someone should create a special character for Sayoko the neighbor as she only appears in her events but cannot be found wandering around town. In any of her appearances, does she have a last name? I could not find one in the brief searching I did.
What would be required? Paperdoll and a xml file to link it during population generation? Would her house need to make it on the map? What about her son?
On another note, I like the defined per character hypno cooldown with the watch icon but 4 days is too long. It makes an already grindy game even more so. The hypno nerf is also a little strong as hypno was my default way of corrupting my students and now I fail far more often but there is no in game clue that maybe I should rest before trying it again on another student, if that is the cause of failure. Plus the almost guaranteed fail on any HasQuest character is quite annoying. Just because you want to steer a player to the quests doesn't mean you should cripple a working game mechanic with once again no in game message that indicates that the attempt will almost always fail.
Quote from: Regardie on Jul 26, 2022, 05:46 AMI was thinking someone should create a special character for Sayoko the neighbor as she only appears in her events but cannot be found wandering around town. In any of her appearances, does she have a last name? I could not find one in the brief searching I did.
What would be required? Paperdoll and a xml file to link it during population generation? Would her house need to make it on the map? What about her son?
On another note, I like the defined per character hypno cooldown with the watch icon but 4 days is too long. It makes an already grindy game even more so. The hypno nerf is also a little strong as hypno was my default way of corrupting my students and now I fail far more often but there is no in game clue that maybe I should rest before trying it again on another student, if that is the cause of failure. Plus the almost guaranteed fail on any HasQuest character is quite annoying. Just because you want to steer a player to the quests doesn't mean you should cripple a working game mechanic with once again no in game message that indicates that the attempt will almost always fail.
I've got Sayoko + Son & the 3 Coppers chain NPCs already made, it's just that it would take some time to properly connect them to their relevant events, so I'm holding off on them till someone picks up their chains, or I've got enough time. You can see them all in the Event Contribution database.
I also recommend posting balance issues in the Game Balance thread, as people are unlikely to remember where this is if they want to consider looking into balance tweaks.
Quote- Lydia Swan has a new paperdoll, in preparation for her quest-chain.
:o WAHOO~!
Lydia will get a quest chain?
F YEAH!
There's no "general chat" option on my game. Is that to be expected, or did I screw up something going non-default?
Yes, afaik general chat was the old (dated) version of the interactions - before they got split into separate ones.
Do mention if anything is missing from regular interactions that was part of general chat.
I'm pretty sure this has been around since before 1.10.1, but the event where one of the teachers asks to use the school as a workout space for parents: does that actually happen, and I'm missing is somehow, or is it just the setup for something yet to be implemented?
That's Claire Fuzushi. The event works as-is, but there's no event to attend the class AFAIR; and the "sex" option doesn't actually change anything at the moment, since she only agrees if she already would have sex with the MC. Maybe there's supposed to be more on the sex path, but right now this just functions as a "Consensual willingness" check.
So it's currently just a way to get some extra monthly income, or (less-useful) some PTA support. Her quest-line will provide better results on the latter.
Quote from: TBBle on Aug 27, 2022, 06:36 PMThat's Claire Fuzushi. The event works as-is, but there's no event to attend the class AFAIR; and the "sex" option doesn't actually change anything at the moment, since she only agrees if she already would have sex with the MC. Maybe there's supposed to be more on the sex path, but right now this just functions as a "Consensual willingness" check.
So it's currently just a way to get some extra monthly income, or (less-useful) some PTA support. Her quest-line will provide better results on the latter.
Unless someone sat down and wrote it, the Fuzushi quest line is incomplete, if I recall correctly.
Quote from: squark on Aug 28, 2022, 07:46 AMQuote from: TBBle on Aug 27, 2022, 06:36 PMThat's Claire Fuzushi. The event works as-is, but there's no event to attend the class AFAIR; and the "sex" option doesn't actually change anything at the moment, since she only agrees if she already would have sex with the MC. Maybe there's supposed to be more on the sex path, but right now this just functions as a "Consensual willingness" check.
So it's currently just a way to get some extra monthly income, or (less-useful) some PTA support. Her quest-line will provide better results on the latter.
Unless someone sat down and wrote it, the Fuzushi quest line is incomplete, if I recall correctly.
It is as far as I know, better to corrupt her through the Cosplay Club.
AFAIR her PTA/corruption quest-line (intersecting with Sayako) is complete and will deliver full PTA support. There's scope for more events but at least for PTA support, it's fine. (Technically, this is Sayako's quest line that pulls in Claire in the late stages; you might be thinking of a different quest-line for her that I'm not remembering...)
The Cosplay Club sequence is incomplete/needs rebalancing: there's no intrinsic way to reach the later stages due to a very high corruption requirement for the stages that give corruption; and the final stage is marked "TODO" anyway. The only way to cross the boundary between "Done" and "WIP" is to use second-stage Suggestion/Corruptor to get her corruption to 60 (I think it was 60).
The Cosplay Club is well out-of-date and probably needs reworking to progress based on inhibition/corruption rather than simply adding later stages to the random-choice, since it makes little sense that once she's in the cosplay-sex stages, that some weeks she'd be embarrassed sitting around in her underwear while clothes are modified.
Quote from: TBBle on Aug 28, 2022, 11:58 AMAFAIR her PTA/corruption quest-line (intersecting with Sayako) is complete and will deliver full PTA support. There's scope for more events but at least for PTA support, it's fine. (Technically, this is Sayako's quest line that pulls in Claire in the late stages; you might be thinking of a different quest-line for her that I'm not remembering...)
I am. I'm referring to the Investigation route.
It's been a while. I think a volunteer started writing that but dropped it, just like the one writing for Andy.
Ah, you're right, I had completely forgotten that one. Yeah, it hits a TODO stage in the teacher's room. You can farm a little loyalty but otherwise not a useful chain right now.
Hold on, what's the PTA/Corruption route? Is that answered in the gameplay question thread?
The one I was talking about is Sayako (the neighbour)'s quest chain. From memory getting her to show you videos of herself in the computer lab will reveal that she "knows" Claire, and that leads to getting Claire's full PTA support after a threesome down by the lake. (There's a fork in the chain, I don't remember if both forks leads to Claire or not.) I called it PTA/Corruption, but I don't actually remember if there's any Corruption involved. I suspect there isn't much or any corruption, given how hard I looked for non-Chem/Hypno sources of corruption for Claire to try and get over the Cosplay Club hump.
I did a few runs on the latest version so here are my new suggestions (not exactly feature requests):
-GenSex image packs are awesome. Now just add more tags like location or occupation.
-Corruption nerf feels wierd. Not the change itself but some PTA decisions need to be re-evaluated taking the new definition and ways to earn it into account.
-Exhibitionism->inhibition-hits needs to be gamified more. No clue how.
I know this was mentioned a lot but I think the HasQuest marker is still too harsh in some character quests.
-For June I think it should lift from the first time you tutor her.
-For Ronda Bells I don't even know how to lift it, I'm pretty sure I chose every option on her office visit and she still has it, it's been months.
For Ronda Bells, her HasQuest marker is removed once you let her off the hook, either rejecting her 5 times, or after she's fully corrupted. The stat benefits (corruption/willpower) stop accumulating after she's fully corrupted, so there's no reason to not let her off the hook except watching the same events again.
I think the general idea of the HasQuest marker is to keep players from overly-messing with characters that have quest-lines available, as they may for example change stats that are also used by the quests, put them in an inconsistent state, or simply shortcut the questline reward. I personally don't think it's too harsh to keep HasQuest on someone until they reach a repeatable end-state or finish the quest lines completely, as long as there's ways to terminate the quest lines early (which is missing in some cases).
There is an interesting design contrast between Ronda Bells, who as mentioned is HasQuest-marked until you terminate the repeating stage of her questline, and Beth Manilli, who has HasQuest removed when you start the repeating stage. In Beth's case, the repeated events still affect her stats (education/intelligence in this case).
So there's probably room to adjust one or the other to be more consistent, but I don't know that it's necessary to change.
I think it would be good, long-term, to have a "sandbox" mode, which basically disables all quest-lines, HasQuest, and also the end-conditions. I don't think I'd play it (I enjoy the quests) but there's clearly some level of latent desire to just spend as long as necessary to totally-corrupt the town, hypnotise and drug the PTA into compliance, etc. That might also be a good mode to have for game-balance adjustments, e.g. concerns about Chemistry/Drug progression speed and cost, as the quests can be considered trade-offs against raw sandbox progress.
I get it, but for June there's no further events once you start tutoring her so IMO there's no real reason to wait for repeats same thing with Annette once you seen all the night events.
Quote from: TBBle on Sep 23, 2022, 03:08 AMFor Ronda Bells, her HasQuest marker is removed once you let her off the hook, either rejecting her 5 times, or after she's fully corrupted. The stat benefits (corruption/willpower) stop accumulating after she's fully corrupted, so there's no reason to not let her off the hook except watching the same events again.
As for Ronda IMO that's also a weird choice, since it kinda punishes the player for keeping the event active(Samantha for example can keep her office visits without the HasQuest marker) and it also doesn't make too much sense to have it there from a story perspective since it limits her corruption when you're actively blackmailing her which should have the opposite effect.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Aug 29, 2022, 10:59 AMHold on, what's the PTA/Corruption route? Is that answered in the gameplay question thread?
It is the way you play this game in general. Unless you are just passing days and killing all NPC quests. "PTA/Corruption" is group of quests related to PTA members that make them loyal to principal. This allow player to change school policies.
Quote from: Albatross on Sep 23, 2022, 03:43 AMAs for Ronda IMO that's also a weird choice, since it kinda punishes the player for keeping the event active(Samantha for example can keep her office visits without the HasQuest marker) and it also doesn't make too much sense to have it there from a story perspective since it limits her corruption when you're actively blackmailing her which should have the opposite effect.
I do agree it's a bit inconsistent that it doesn't clear HasQuest once it's in trivial-repeat mode, compared to other such series.
I think no longer delivering new corruption is reasonable here because to hit that, she's already quite corrupt (>50) so she's not really being blackmailed at this point, it's consensual roleplay. And she was pretty much always "into it" in the chain, from my recollection of the text; the chian progress reads like lowering inhibition rather than raising corruption, I think. But I'd have to have a closer look at the current corruption definition and the text to be sure about that last thought.
Perhaps it should reward some other statistic for repeats after "fully corrupted" (loyalty? increase an appropriate fetish value, now they are scalars? reduce inhibition?) and clear HasQuest there. That's basically how Beth's chain works at the same stage too. If considering that change, I'd also change it so that rather than enabling "Let her off the hook" once she's fully-corrupted, that option is no longer possible, even if you are busy multiple times. Again, this is how Beth's chain ends, you forever have the option to run the repeating event each time the circumstances are met, with no penalty for opting out, and a small stat reward for opting in.
I haven't run thought Sam Keller's chain in the current release, but it sounds like it also works like Beth's, not like Ronda's.
Nah for Samantha the repeatable visits don't lock her I'm pretty sure(At least in my current save).
But yeah removing the HasQuest and adding different stats for Ronda's visits sounds like a good idea to me.
How progress Annette after first blackmailing? Nothing happening
Quote from: pwnz on Sep 25, 2022, 09:43 AMHow progress Annette after first blackmailing? Nothing happening
It'll happen. Just poke your head into her room around 10/11PM. If there's an event scheduled, it'll activate.
So quick question: Is the Raymund family corruption chain started just like every other Teacher/PTA member or does it have another trigger? And yes, I am aware that it was just started and can't be completed, but would still like to know.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Oct 04, 2022, 11:38 PMSo quick question: Is the Raymund family corruption chain started just like every other Teacher/PTA member or does it have another trigger? And yes, I am aware that it was just started and can't be completed, but would still like to know.
I got it started by going into the teacher's room. I had no idea that would start the quest, I just wanted to drop some magazines there. I don't recall if it was in between classes or during classes, but I think it was the latter.
If Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Oct 04, 2022, 11:38 PMSo quick question: Is the Raymund family corruption chain started just like every other Teacher/PTA member or does it have another trigger? And yes, I am aware that it was just started and can't be completed, but would still like to know.
Event chain starts from hiring April and finding her phone in teacher's room. Open Debug and check comments in global variables, if you want spoiler for future events.
Quote from: Dzeris on Oct 09, 2022, 12:08 PMIf Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.
It's just one event, in a location where most of the students go every day, so please calm down. The sex shop one was changed from the 0.07% chance it used to be to a good 5-10% per day - and it's not even an important event.
Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 09, 2022, 01:07 PMQuote from: Dzeris on Oct 09, 2022, 12:08 PMIf Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.
It's just one event, in a location where most of the students go every day, so please calm down. The sex shop one was changed from the 0.07% chance it used to be to a good 5-10% per day - and it's not even an important event.
So you could need to spend three in-game weeks or longer of visiting the sex shop frequently to get the sex shop event to happen? I suppose it's an improvement on almost four in-game years, but it's still not great for something that's tracked in your quest log...
You could maybe, though from testing it usually takes me a day or two per part.
And I had to test that event like a hundred times because of a false bug report.
It's a dead end chain that was supposed to be an Easter egg, hasn't changed in 5+ years and might one day be deprecated if nobody picks it up.
If everything was set to 100% chance the game would actually be unplayable.
Quote from: grey_shadow on Oct 10, 2022, 12:50 AMQuote from: barteke22 on Oct 09, 2022, 01:07 PMQuote from: Dzeris on Oct 09, 2022, 12:08 PMIf Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.
It's just one event, in a location where most of the students go every day, so please calm down. The sex shop one was changed from the 0.07% chance it used to be to a good 5-10% per day - and it's not even an important event.
So you could need to spend three in-game weeks or longer of visiting the sex shop frequently to get the sex shop event to happen? I suppose it's an improvement on almost four in-game years, but it's still not great for something that's tracked in your quest log...
Sex shop reference is for Claire Fuzuchi chain. Cafeteria and Shopping Mall are for Sherilyn Ambrose and technically quest hints only at 12 hour window on Saturday for randomly burning game time.
Quote from: Dzeris on Oct 09, 2022, 12:08 PMIf Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.
Event chain starts from hiring April and finding her phone in teacher's room. Open Debug and check comments in global variables, if you want spoiler for future events.
Hello, creator of the chain here and going forward any event checking is going to be for only one of the potential characters needed, the other one not currently there will be forcibly dragged there for the event. I think that event should be set up like that, but if it isn't my apologies. I realize getting the A.I. to cooperate isn't easy but I want to set up for multiple characters chains and Sherilyn is the vector to getting you to 'notice' those specific students.
Annette at Inhibition level 0 probably should not trigger random events in Principal's home, where she is getting flustered and red.
I think those are her 'period' events. She's probably the only NPC that makes use of the period tracking.
Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 14, 2022, 02:28 PMI think those are her 'period' events. She's probably the only NPC that makes use of the period tracking.
Oh, that gives some ideas, for some pretty chaotic memes/events 🤣🤣
Can Daisy Maddox events be converted from ShowTextFull to ShowText? I can add screenshots that show what change in spoiler does.
Spoiler
--- HHS 1.10.3.4-Release.orig/Schools/NormalSchool/Events/Location/School/Classroom Shared/DaisySpied.ve.xml
+++ HHS 1.10.3.4-Release/Schools/NormalSchool/Events/Location/School/Classroom Shared/DaisySpied.ve.xml
@@ -5008,7 +5008,7 @@
</VariableLink>
</VariableLinks>
</SeqCond_PersonGender>
- <SeqActLat_ShowTextFull>
+ <SeqActLat_ShowText>
<ID>413</ID>
<Coords>
<X>5840</X>
@@ -5041,7 +5041,7 @@
<LinkType>LT_Single</LinkType>
</VariableLink>
</VariableLinks>
- </SeqActLat_ShowTextFull>
+ </SeqActLat_ShowText>
<SeqAct_PerformIntercourse>
<ID>414</ID>
<Coords>
--- HHS 1.10.3.4-Release.orig/Schools/NormalSchool/Events/Location/School/Principal Office/DaisyPunishment.ve.xml
+++ HHS 1.10.3.4-Release/Schools/NormalSchool/Events/Location/School/Principal Office/DaisyPunishment.ve.xml
@@ -2231,7 +2231,7 @@
</VariableLink>
</VariableLinks>
</SeqCond_MinObjListElements>
- <SeqActLat_ShowTextFull>
+ <SeqActLat_ShowText>
<ID>123</ID>
<Coords>
<X>1188</X>
@@ -2264,7 +2264,7 @@
<LinkType>LT_Single</LinkType>
</VariableLink>
</VariableLinks>
- </SeqActLat_ShowTextFull>
+ </SeqActLat_ShowText>
<SeqAct_TextReplacePersonContext>
<ID>124</ID>
<Coords>
Event in principal's office assumes that principal returns to office right after dealing with Daisy in classroom. Principal could return to office on other day. I think first event text in office does not match that.
Is the wrestling club disabled in the current build? Carl never asks to start it for me. Also, am I correct in assuming the Walker chain currently ends where you make plans to train with him at his house?
Quote from: Spatches on Oct 17, 2022, 09:14 PMIs the wrestling club disabled in the current build? Carl never asks to start it for me. Also, am I correct in assuming the Walker chain currently ends where you make plans to train with him at his house?
Here:
https://henthighschool.net/hhs/carl-walker-new-chain/
Quote from: Dzeris on Oct 17, 2022, 02:41 PMCan Daisy Maddox events be converted from ShowTextFull to ShowText? I can add screenshots that show what change in spoiler does.
...
Event in principal's office assumes that principal returns to office right after dealing with Daisy in classroom. Principal could return to office on other day. I think first event text in office does not match that.
That whole chain is a mess that needs 70% of its content replaced/cut. I'll amend it a bit, but there's too many todos in it and inconsistencies to do. It also doesn't matter what the event before says, you're supposed to be there the same day canonically, but it doesn't end (like some others) if you miss it.
Quote from: Spatches on Oct 17, 2022, 09:14 PMIs the wrestling club disabled in the current build? Carl never asks to start it for me. Also, am I correct in assuming the Walker chain currently ends where you make plans to train with him at his house?
Wrestling club is gonna be deprecated as it has no real content + is hard to find images for.
Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 18, 2022, 12:08 PMWrestling club is gonna be deprecated as it has no real content + is hard to find images for.
Ok, thanks for the info. Is there someone working on any alternate yaoi content for a club for the newer versions then? I was using search to find recent yaoi info and looking at the dev forum and there is a thread there that hasn't had any interaction for several months
Most of the activity is on the discord, the forum has kinda become a long term archive/info board (since discord is a mess to organise). Some of the recent patches revived some of the generic yaoi content that was basically not accessible due to logic issues. Some of the new chains/reworks also introduced some yaoi content, and there's plans to replace the wrestling club with another at some point.
Is April Raymund chain working in 1.10.3.5 past event in class with student, who is uncomfortable in Religion class? I don't seem to activate next dialog in Office. Tried to fix Religion class exception error based instructions on Bug thread, but my fix is done by editing files and not via Debug. Bug thread instructions are not clear on how to do that in Debug. Chains_AprilRaymund is at 31.
Cheerleader panty event seems to not activate in 1.10 too or I forgot at which time principal needs to be in changing room.
VEE way requires reloading the event. Debug is the same (without the reload), find it in 'Debug > Debug Events', edit, close debug (save game to save changes if it works).
That event is the one you're trying to fix, I just didn't update my internal notes (on the global) after moving it.
Cheerleader panty stealing has been confirmed to work.
I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place, but here goes:
At one point when you check in on Annette and the game makes a point of her being naked, the text states that you wonder if you should tell her that you also sleep naked yet nothing comes of that unless I've missed something.
Been like that for some time now.
Quote from: Spatches on Oct 18, 2022, 09:04 PMOk, thanks for the info. Is there someone working on any alternate yaoi content for a club for the newer versions then? I was using search to find recent yaoi info and looking at the dev forum and there is a thread there that hasn't had any interaction for several months
I am, and there will be... kinda? Martial Arts Club(the replacement) is gonna be more mixed content but will include Yaoi content. There's also just going to be in general more content of every type once I finish and send out what I am working on.
Is there any way to roll back or block the look around mod stuff that was added to the game? This causes frustrating lag when changing locations compared to earlier game versions. I also don't see the added value in visualizing the paper dolls in each location - it basically ruins the fantasy of the game.
EDIT: Nevermind, just found how to limit it through settings.
Is there a way to increase how frequently events fire off?
Quote from: Quado on Nov 19, 2022, 02:08 PMIs there any way to roll back or block the look around mod stuff that was added to the game? This causes frustrating lag when changing locations compared to earlier game versions. I also don't see the added value in visualizing the paper dolls in each location - it basically ruins the fantasy of the game.
EDIT: Nevermind, just found how to limit it through settings.
I personally like the the paper dolls showing up. It makes the town feel more "lived-in".
But for load times and possible lag limiting, I have had to tone it down.
I'll put this here, since I have no idea where to put it.
So when I was thinking about the "future goals" system and how it might work, yeah I know barely in its infancy but work with me, I then got thinking: Well if we got a goal, how about a backstory? To the point that it could even affect relationships with people.
Currently the only idea I have is that the Principal came from a perverted family and brought them up to be a massive pervert with some implications. This would affect the Principal and their relationship with Annette/Andy to the point where their relationship is already sexual and they get read in on what the principal is planning. They'll even know about the basement and can in fact go down there from time to time. Granted, it could affect their respective gender's corruption chain, but small sacrifices.
Granted this is just an idea - I have absolutely know skills in using the VEE system to create a mod or anything of the sort.
Given the Reason for no new Updates (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/reason-for-no-new-updates/) thread, and the small collection of "self-help" fixes listed in the bug report first-post, is there any chance of a small service pack with those self-help fixes already done?
Since the AprilOffice one looks like a debug workaround rather than a fix, I image either excluding it, or if there's a real but more-complex and not-conflicting fix in the repo, package that instead.
Edit: Looks like this comment just became irrelevant, 1.10.4 has been released. Redacting to avoid any confusion.
Quick questions about the newly released version that sports actual weather. Did you rework the intro where it implies that it is always sunny and pleasant in Smallville? Does the beach stay open when the weather snows? I think you could remove the snow effects completely and think of the location like Miami Florida USA where snow would almost never happen but daily afternoon thunderstorms are a real possibility.
1.10.4 changed the way minigame outcome is calculated. Winning config from 1.10.3 no longer works.
Cooldown for giving gifts to NPCs is reduced. Gave Stacy bottle of wine in the morning and energy drink during PTA meeting.
@Dzeris Nothing's changed in terms of minigames afaik, you might've reloaded yours into a different one though.
Did you reload Minigames under Reload Game Objects? That allows switching between configs, since only one can go into the minigame slot (the last to be reloaded). Otherwise share this 'Winning config' - since there's no such thing in the base ones.
Can confirm missing cooldown being a bug, will look into.
Quote from: Regardie on Jan 20, 2023, 01:53 AMQuick questions about the newly released version that sports actual weather. Did you rework the intro where it implies that it is always sunny and pleasant in Smallville? Does the beach stay open when the weather snows? I think you could remove the snow effects completely and think of the location like Miami Florida USA where snow would almost never happen but daily afternoon thunderstorms are a real possibility.
Nothing currently happens outside of some specific events that mention to weather.
It could be possible to do that by manipulating the VisitFrequency in a BackgroundEvent, but I think Shilo mentioned that such changes would be better off to wait for the potential 'activity based scheduling' rework.
The weather could always be tweaked to resemble the climate of some area or other, the town doesn't really have much lore as to what kind of place it is.
For now someone could make a mod that tweaks this and how it affects locations, as it's all in VEE (BackgroundEvents\WeatherManager).
Quote from: barteke22 on Jan 21, 2023, 12:44 AM@Dzeris Nothing's changed in terms of minigames afaik, you might've reloaded yours into a different one though.
Did you reload Minigames under Reload Game Objects? That allows switching between configs, since only one can go into the minigame slot (the last to be reloaded). Otherwise share this 'Winning config' - since there's no such thing in the base ones.
I've started new game.
Will try tuning minigame config further.
Spoiler
[2023-01-21 06:06.56] /drives/d/Games/HHS+1.10.4.0-Release/Schools/NormalSchool/MinigameConfig
> diff -uw SkipMinigameConfig.xml WinMinigameConfig.xml
--- SkipMinigameConfig.xml
+++ WinMinigameConfig.xml
@@ -3,11 +3,11 @@
<Name />
<Balance_SkillCheck_Enable>true</Balance_SkillCheck_Enable>
<Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassMultiplier>5</Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassMultiplier>
- <Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>40</Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>
+ <Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>0</Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>
<Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>10</Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>
- <Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>-40</Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>
- <Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMax>0.4</Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMax>
- <Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMin>0.05</Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMin>
+ <Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>0</Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>
+ <Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMax>0</Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMax>
+ <Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMin>0</Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMin>
<Balance_BaseTime>45</Balance_BaseTime>
<Balance_DifficultyTimeFactor>1.5</Balance_DifficultyTimeFactor>
<Balance_SkillTimeFactor>0</Balance_SkillTimeFactor>
@@ -31,9 +31,9 @@
<Balance_SuccessZoneSkillFactor>0.025</Balance_SuccessZoneSkillFactor>
<Hack_SkillCheck_Enable>true</Hack_SkillCheck_Enable>
<Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassMultiplier>5</Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassMultiplier>
- <Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>40</Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>
- <Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>10</Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>
- <Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>-40</Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>
+ <Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>0</Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>
+ <Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>0</Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>
+ <Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>0</Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>
<Hack_BaseTime>180</Hack_BaseTime>
<Hack_DifficultyTimeFactor>15</Hack_DifficultyTimeFactor>
<Hack_SkillTimeFactor>0.5</Hack_SkillTimeFactor>
[2023-01-21 06:07.08] /drives/d/Games/HHS+1.10.4.0-Release/Schools/NormalSchool/MinigameConfig
> cat WinMinigameConfig.xml
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<MinigameConfig>
<Name />
<Balance_SkillCheck_Enable>true</Balance_SkillCheck_Enable>
<Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassMultiplier>5</Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassMultiplier>
<Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>0</Balance_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>
<Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>10</Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>
<Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>0</Balance_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>
<Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMax>0</Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMax>
<Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMin>0</Balance_SkillCheck_FailureChanceMin>
<Balance_BaseTime>45</Balance_BaseTime>
<Balance_DifficultyTimeFactor>1.5</Balance_DifficultyTimeFactor>
<Balance_SkillTimeFactor>0</Balance_SkillTimeFactor>
<Balance_BaseProgressPerSecond>3</Balance_BaseProgressPerSecond>
<Balance_DifficultyProgressFactor>0</Balance_DifficultyProgressFactor>
<Balance_SkillProgressFactor>0</Balance_SkillProgressFactor>
<Balance_BaseStreakBonus>0.25</Balance_BaseStreakBonus>
<Balance_DifficultyStreakFactor>0</Balance_DifficultyStreakFactor>
<Balance_SkillStreakFactor>0</Balance_SkillStreakFactor>
<Balance_BaseRandomAcceleration>50</Balance_BaseRandomAcceleration>
<Balance_DifficultyRandomAccelFactor>0</Balance_DifficultyRandomAccelFactor>
<Balance_SkillRandomAccelFactor>0</Balance_SkillRandomAccelFactor>
<Balance_BaseFailureZoneWidth>1</Balance_BaseFailureZoneWidth>
<Balance_FailureZoneDifficultyFactor>0.2</Balance_FailureZoneDifficultyFactor>
<Balance_FailureZoneSkillFactor>0</Balance_FailureZoneSkillFactor>
<Balance_BaseNeutralZoneWidth>1.5</Balance_BaseNeutralZoneWidth>
<Balance_NeutralZoneDifficultyFactor>0</Balance_NeutralZoneDifficultyFactor>
<Balance_NeutralZoneSkillFactor>0</Balance_NeutralZoneSkillFactor>
<Balance_BaseSuccessZoneWidth>1</Balance_BaseSuccessZoneWidth>
<Balance_SuccessZoneDifficultyFactor>0</Balance_SuccessZoneDifficultyFactor>
<Balance_SuccessZoneSkillFactor>0.025</Balance_SuccessZoneSkillFactor>
<Hack_SkillCheck_Enable>true</Hack_SkillCheck_Enable>
<Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassMultiplier>5</Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassMultiplier>
<Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>0</Hack_SkillCheck_AutopassOffset>
<Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>0</Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceMultiplier>
<Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>0</Hack_SkillCheck_NoChanceOffset>
<Hack_BaseTime>180</Hack_BaseTime>
<Hack_DifficultyTimeFactor>15</Hack_DifficultyTimeFactor>
<Hack_SkillTimeFactor>0.5</Hack_SkillTimeFactor>
<Hack_BaseShuffleInteveral>20</Hack_BaseShuffleInteveral>
<Hack_DifficultyShuffleFactor>0</Hack_DifficultyShuffleFactor>
<Hack_SkillShuffleFactor>0</Hack_SkillShuffleFactor>
<Hack_BaseMatrixInterval>0.8</Hack_BaseMatrixInterval>
<Hack_DifficultyMatrixFactor>0</Hack_DifficultyMatrixFactor>
<Hack_SkillMatrixFactor>0</Hack_SkillMatrixFactor>
<LastModificationTime>2021-10-10T01:52:35.9117261Z</LastModificationTime>
<ResourceOriginPath>MinigameConfig\SkipMinigameConfig.xml</ResourceOriginPath>
</MinigameConfig>
[2023-01-21 06:07.14] /drives/d/Games/HHS+1.10.4.0-Release/Schools/NormalSchool/MinigameConfig
Gifts and flirting in 1.10.4
* Not all types got set of three gifts.
* Some request bikini and talk about previous suit gift, when bikini is their first gift request.
* Some (ex.Lydia) do not have +10 option in insightful talk.
Unlocking phones on limited types might require different approach.
* Do you mean the old archetypes don't have min 3?
As mentioned in the patch notes, the new ones are incomplete - that's why you're meant to use the mod to regenerate the old ones (if you want to).
* Fixed internally.
* Same as first point, though for that one the new ones would default to 'non-specific'.
Not feeling the 'New' Lydia's look; NGL.
Quote from: blumph on Jan 24, 2023, 08:41 PMNot feeling the 'New' Lydia's look; NGL.
Nor am I. Preferred her previous look TBH.
Personal information gathering seems a little off; people are more eager to give out their address than their birthday. I have a friendship at max with someone who won't give me their birthday. I've had sex with someone and gotten to two hearts' worth of relationship and they ask me "Why do you want to know that?" (but they do give me their birthday).
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Jan 24, 2023, 10:18 PMQuote from: blumph on Jan 24, 2023, 08:41 PMNot feeling the 'New' Lydia's look; NGL.
Nor am I. Preferred her previous look TBH.
I know her look was changed due to her upcoming corruption quest, but ditto. I just didn't want to say anything out of not wanting to sound like an a-hole.
1.10.4 slave girl gives her phone number after some time in the basement. Impossible to call her even after she is released. "Maybe it's just bad time to call Name?..." Current friendship around 19.
1.10.3.5 allowed to call her even when she was still in the basement.
Hmmm not sure why I'm having issues launching the game. Tried Both the 64x and 86x versions of Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Service Pack 1. I also have a version of .Net framework installed higher than 4.8. I even tried downloading and running 1.9.5, and that worked just fine. Hope it's not just me having issues. Also sorry if this is in the wrong thread.
Here's the log
Spoiler
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[General Info]
Application: HHS+
Version: v1.10.4.1, Release
Region: English (United States)
Date: 1/26/2023
Time: 11:39 AM
User Explanation:
User said "Crashes On Launch. I'm able to hit 'play game,' but when it's done precaching and starts preforming its final setup it'll crash."
-----------------------------
[Exception Info 1]
Top-level Exception
Type: System.ApplicationException
Message: This dispatched exception was not handled by the program. The program will shutdown now. Sorry... :(
Source: hhs+.exe
Inner Exception 1
Type: System.NullReferenceException
Message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Source: hhs+
Stack Trace: at hhs_._GameWindow.PDsResize(Boolean auto) in hhs+\_View\GameWindow\_GameWindow.xaml.cs:line 1573
at hhs_._GameWindow.OnRenderSizeChanged(SizeChangedInfo sizeInfo) in hhs+\_View\GameWindow\_GameWindow.xaml.cs:line 1536
at System.Windows.ContextLayoutManager.fireSizeChangedEvents()
at System.Windows.ContextLayoutManager.UpdateLayout()
at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.SetLayoutSize()
at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.set_RootVisualInternal(Visual value)
at System.Windows.Window.SetRootVisual()
at System.Windows.Window.SetRootVisualAndUpdateSTC()
at System.Windows.Window.SetupInitialState(Double requestedTop, Double requestedLeft, Double requestedWidth, Double requestedHeight)
at System.Windows.Window.CreateSourceWindow(Boolean duringShow)
at System.Windows.Window.ShowHelper(Object booleanBox)
at hhs_.GameplayManager.<startGameBackgroundWorker_RunWorkerCompleted>d__11.MoveNext() in hhs+\_Modules\Gameplay\GameplayManager.cs:line 301
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
at System.Runtime.ExceptionServices.ExceptionDispatchInfo.Throw()
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)
-----------------------------
[Assembly Info]
mscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0
System.Xaml, Version=4.0.0.0
log4net, Version=2.0.14.0
PresentationCore, Version=4.0.0.0
System, Version=4.0.0.0
WindowsBase, Version=4.0.0.0
PresentationFramework, Version=4.0.0.0
Xceed.Wpf.Toolkit, Version=4.3.0.0
FontAwesome6.Core, Version=2.2.0.0
System.Core, Version=4.0.0.0
System.Windows.Forms, Version=4.0.0.0
MathParser.org-mXparser, Version=5.0.7.0
Microsoft.VisualBasic, Version=10.0.0.0
Microsoft.Msagl.GraphViewerGdi, Version=3.0.0.0
Microsoft.Msagl.Drawing, Version=3.0.0.0
System.Drawing, Version=4.0.0.0
WindowsFormsIntegration, Version=4.0.0.0
System.Data.SQLite, Version=1.0.116.0
System.Xml, Version=4.0.0.0
Cronos, Version=0.7.1.0
System.Runtime.Caching, Version=4.0.0.0
System.Data, Version=4.0.0.0
FontAwesome6.Svg.Net, Version=2.2.0.0
ExceptionReporter.NET, Version=3.0.1.0
OxyPlot.Wpf, Version=2.1.0.0
OxyPlot, Version=2.1.0.0
Microsoft.Msagl, Version=3.0.0.0
System.Xml.Linq, Version=4.0.0.0
XamlAnimatedGif, Version=2.0.0.0
OxyPlot.Wpf.Shared, Version=2.1.0.0
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[System Info]
Operating System
-Microsoft Windows 10 Home
--CodeSet = 1252
--CSDVersion =
--CurrentTimeZone = -480
--FreePhysicalMemory = 25959996
--OSArchitecture = 64-bit
--OSLanguage = 1033
--ServicePackMajorVersion = 0
--ServicePackMinorVersion = 0
--Version = 10.0.19044
Machine
-DESKTOP-J3E1K4O
--Manufacturer = Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
--Model = MS-7C35
--TotalPhysicalMemory = 34276626432
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[Contact Info]
Email:
Web: https://www.henthighschool.net/hhs/
Phone:
Fax:
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re:Lydia I think they had trouble finding images for her chain for the old design. Until that chain happens (if ever) someone can cash in on that 'old Lydia mod' real-estate xD
@Dzeris &
@rdspam Hopefully fixed next patch, keep stuff like that to the Official Bug Report thread pls.
Quote from: barteke22 on Jan 26, 2023, 10:00 PMre:Lydia I think they had trouble finding images for her chain for the old design. Until that chain happens (if ever) someone can cash in on that 'old Lydia mod' real-estate xD
...
I stuck OldLydia's head in the new Folder, and color-matched the NuLydia's back hair to OldLydia in Paint. Took 5 minutes.
Is there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 03:06 PMIs there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
It teaches that there are other game mechanics for getting phone numbers. Three gift path to friendship was straightforward and simple.
Quote from: Dzeris on Feb 12, 2023, 06:38 PMQuote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 03:06 PMIs there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
It teaches that there are other game mechanics for getting phone numbers. Three gift path to friendship was straightforward and simple.
When you teach someone something, you help them to understand it. This doesn't do that. The presence of "yet" tells me that I just have to ask them at a different time and maybe I'll get something to do. I don't have all the classrooms, clubs and upgrades yet, so that's something to aim for.
To be fair, I did sort of twig that there are other ways of getting phone numbers - otherwise it's a glaring oversight.
Now I have to figure this out.
I don't want spoilers. The vaguest of vague hints are welcome though.
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 08:51 PMQuote from: Dzeris on Feb 12, 2023, 06:38 PMQuote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 03:06 PMIs there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
It teaches that there are other game mechanics for getting phone numbers. Three gift path to friendship was straightforward and simple.
When you teach someone something, you help them to understand it. This doesn't do that. The presence of "yet" tells me that I just have to ask them at a different time and maybe I'll get something to do. I don't have all the classrooms, clubs and upgrades yet, so that's something to aim for.
To be fair, I did sort of twig that there are other ways of getting phone numbers - otherwise it's a glaring oversight.
Now I have to figure this out.
I don't want spoilers. The vaguest of vague hints are welcome though.
If i remember correctly from the changelog, only the foundations were made public. whether or not it was built upon or completed in the internal version is unknown. You're better off just using the reverting mod that's included to change everyone back to the original system.
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 08:51 PMQuote from: Dzeris on Feb 12, 2023, 06:38 PMQuote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 03:06 PMIs there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
It teaches that there are other game mechanics for getting phone numbers. Three gift path to friendship was straightforward and simple.
When you teach someone something, you help them to understand it. This doesn't do that. The presence of "yet" tells me that I just have to ask them at a different time and maybe I'll get something to do. I don't have all the classrooms, clubs and upgrades yet, so that's something to aim for.
To be fair, I did sort of twig that there are other ways of getting phone numbers - otherwise it's a glaring oversight.
Now I have to figure this out.
I don't want spoilers. The vaguest of vague hints are welcome though.
Phone numbers are not locked behind 35+ Friendship. Lower friendship can be compensated with higher relationship/loyalty and lower inhibition (sex works with that). First flirting option can give extra 5-10 friendship points. If your target is staff, get their job title before hiring if possible. If your targets are students, those deviants will have sex with principal in office at any time once school advances. If students are not orphans, asking about parents and their job, gives extra points too.
If your goal is 100 friendship with
* Susan - delay last quest line step as she will give you phone number by that time.
* Rie/Hana/June - they give their phones before advancing to repeating weekend events
* Titsbig - they go over horny phone chat threshold only after first threesome.
* Parker - short window between getting phone number and Saturday train orgy.
Unfinished gift mechanic is still a glaring oversight. Now most nps are only into drinking energy drinks and booze. Most of other gift options are rare.
In current game state main problem is advancing April's and Carl's corruption as they will block school policy upgrades and it takes time for toys and classes to take affect. I got no quests left in school and have to wait for April to collect other 10-15 points to fully upgrade school policies.
Quote from: Dzeris on Feb 13, 2023, 05:10 AMUnfinished gift mechanic is still a glaring oversight. Now most nps are only into drinking energy drinks and booze. Most of other gift options are rare.
In current game state main problem is advancing April's and Carl's corruption as they will block school policy upgrades and it takes time for toys and classes to take affect. I got no quests left in school and have to wait for April to collect other 10-15 points to fully upgrade school policies.
For the gift mechanic, I would guess it's something being worked on. It just needed pushed out so that content could be worked on again(as in adding to base game).
For Carl and April,
April is being worked on, and Carl's chain is more or less done just needing added to base-game(though that may take a bit since there's like 500 things Barteke is going to be busy adding that I sent in. April is just harder to do as I want her chain and Max's chain to reach a similar/same climax and getting the seperate parts started up is kinda confusing.
Version 1.10.4.2
Mods: Pregnancy mod, FindmyPhone, IndicatorsandDifficulty, VisibleSlaveCollar
So it seems that there are no interactions anymore? like how do I raise friendship & relationship if my only options are flirt once a day and ask just once about parents/job/hobbies etc...?
I mean I'm locked in losing dozens of loyalty points by trial and error til I raise my suggestion and hypnosis and force them to kiss me enough times and have sex enough times to give me some sort of relationship bump.
Is this intended?
Quote from: storm4n on Feb 28, 2023, 10:42 AMSo it seems that there are no interactions anymore? like how do I raise friendship & relationship if my only options are flirt once a day and ask just once about parents/job/hobbies etc...?
If you're asking about the favour missions going missing, you probably need to activate the bundled Update Mod to reset the archetypes to the old list, so that you get at least three missions per person. That plus 10-20 points from questions (depends on the person) and 70 points for a full set of correct flirts (which also depends on the Update Mode being applied) should bring you to 100 friendship (and 10 relationship) with room to spare, and make the dating and sex interactions available.
Quote from: TBBle on Feb 28, 2023, 11:06 AMQuote from: storm4n on Feb 28, 2023, 10:42 AMSo it seems that there are no interactions anymore? like how do I raise friendship & relationship if my only options are flirt once a day and ask just once about parents/job/hobbies etc...?
If you're asking about the favour missions going missing, you probably need to activate the bundled Update Mod to reset the archetypes to the old list, so that you get at least three missions per person. That plus 10-20 points from questions (depends on the person) and 70 points for a full set of correct flirts (which also depends on the Update Mode being applied) should bring you to 100 friendship (and 10 relationship) with room to spare, and make the dating and sex interactions available.
How do I do this? I downloaded the full 1.10.4.2 I didn't apply anu updates
on another note...
In the advanced options I set people clothing to cloistered and modest but they still go around mostly showing a lot not just in the privacy of their houses
Quote from: storm4n on Feb 28, 2023, 11:25 AMHow do I do this? I downloaded the full 1.10.4.2 I didn't apply anu updates
In the launcher, go to the Modules tab, and enable the mod named "[Optional] Update mod (click for info)".
See the 1.10.4.0 release notes (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/hhs-1-10-0-official-release-thread/msg2552/#msg2552) under "Existing & new saves note" for more details.
Version 1.10.4.2 full download
Mods: Pregnancy mod, FindmyPhone, IndicatorsandDifficulty, VisibleSlaveCollar
So can anyone maybe help me out with the undressed state control not really working? girls are all around school in a shortened version of their uniforms and people out there in the street everywhere even though I chose the cloistered option and applied the settings
Congratulation!
Quote from: storm4n on Feb 28, 2023, 09:18 PMSo can anyone maybe help me out with the undressed state control not really working? girls are all around school in a shortened version of their uniforms and people out there in the street everywhere even though I chose the cloistered option and applied the settings
Uh, might've replied to this one on Discord. If not, the 2 dressed options are reversed in public, so use the one below it.
So I have a question: according to the update mod, the saves from 1.10.4 still requires its use however 1.10.5 does not. Does that mean the archetype overhaul was completed? Or are there still spots left?
I'm pretty sure it's the same text as 1.10.4 had, i.e. it was "optional" for new saves then too, where "optional" means "If you don't use it, flirting will be broken for some NPCs".
Flirt and GetSocialProfile don't appear to have been updated in 1.10.5 (still just 5 archetypes), so I assume it's still WIP.
Update: 1.10.5.1 reports this as worked-around, so it may not be necessary for flirting to work in new games anymore.
Random event with smoking girl got only negative modifiers, if smoking is discouraged. Consider that some players can have some grudge on cancer, some countries have rules about public smoking and game punishes for doing the right thing.
Gotta ask from the patch notes, what's the "Carla Alternative"? Is that turning Carl into a woman, or is that starting with a Carla from the start instead?
It would be spoilers so: Yes :P
(wiki is updated with spoilery walkthroughs)
re: smoking: One of the choices gives you rep. It's not like telling students that they shouldn't smoke ever actually gets through to them.
So I have another question about Karin's masturbation chain. I think I didn't understand the meaning of >It's an alternative to the Sierra 'Revenge' route (longer, mutually exclusive).
Is the body measurement stuff in the ward the part that's mutually exclusive and won't appear if I've enacted the ward masturbation policy for Karin? Because it has never kicked off after I confronted Karin with the pictures of Sierra fucking her
Measurements are tied to the Physical Exam rule, not related to the chain(s), except that the nude variant for girls unlocks after either chain is done.
Mutually exclusive just means that whatever comes after the confrontation is cut off (Karin's whole chain, or anything revenge-related on Sierra's). They unlock the same things, just differently.
Not sure if it a bug or not, but some special student NPCs are not joining school. Atm Lily Roselace and Richie Banks are not in school. I got 357 students already and was running 'accept all' policy for last two weeks.
Just because they're special, doesn't mean they have any quests or anything attached to them, as such they're not programmed to join your school was complete certainty unlike most of the others.
Lilly Rosenlace and Richie Banks only exist as special characters because their parents are special NPCs, and none of them are HasQuest-marked. The same is true of Elsie Green.
So I'd agree it looks like a bug that they never join the school; ever other special student except Andy+Annette is marked to Auto-enrol at the start of the game AFAICT, including Elsie Green. I expect special students are never enrolled by the normal school recruitment process, so they need to either be managed by quests, or marked to Auto-Enrol.
Quote from: Zaiaku on Apr 23, 2023, 11:07 AMJust because they're special, doesn't mean they have any quests or anything attached to them, as such they're not programmed to join your school was complete certainty unlike most of the others.
They did join the school in previous versions and I saw them joining in some 1.10.4 games. They don't have dedicated quests, but I would suspect that they can influence their parents.
Quote from: barteke22 on Apr 21, 2023, 09:48 PMMeasurements are tied to the Physical Exam rule, not related to the chain(s), except that the nude variant for girls unlocks after either chain is done.
What unlocks the Physical Exam rule? I've finished Karin's and Sierra's quests, enacted the mandatory masturbation, and we're up to assisted masturbation already, confronted Karin with the fabricated evidence and then the spycam footage from her ward for the bonus scene, and girls/futas appear nude in the ward while masturbating. Physical Exams aren't taking place, nor are they something I can present to the PTA for approval, nor something I can enact with the manage school PC, nor a topic I can bring up with Karin
Here is my latest save. I know I messed up one thing while patching. I think it was the change to the men's onsen to allow map access. pass is hhs+
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7zjbzdnl4mr2m43/tue.zip?dl=0
There's a typo in the proposal (fixed next patch) xd
Object reloading for locations isn't great because of how many things about them change, so if you want, you can do the quicker version of Debug > World > Edit > find male onsen > double click > toggle CanExitToMap.
Quote from: Dzeris on Apr 23, 2023, 12:47 PMThey did join the school in previous versions and I saw them joining in some 1.10.4 games. They don't have dedicated quests, but I would suspect that they can influence their parents.
Whether non-quest ones join has always been pure RNG, since they're not marked as AutoEnroll.
Is it possible to activate two callgirls for female principal. I think only images for female events are missing. Or at least get them activated, if principal's gender changes.
Something I noticed recently is that it seems people are more willing to just have sex with my principal in public without asking, "want to go somewhere more comfortable?" I hardly ever get asked that any more, in fact. Far faster than I'd ever seen that happen before. And without any sort of casual "come with me" prompt to employ aside from the way-too-high-maintenance invite back to my place option it's getting quite hazardous to grope anyone I meet out and about >_<
Was this an intended feature, or an unintended byproduct of something else?
There was no change. It's still the same NPC Inhibition VS location seclusion VS spectator amount.
It's probably just become too easy to lower NPC inhibition, so they think you're the prude :P
So can I have a more detailed explanation of what was missed in 1.10.4 that needed a small update? Cuz I saw that it was Hardman and I just realized that she got pretty low in her inhibition but I wasn't able to advance her route for the Hardman corrupt Quest. Also, does anybody know where to find Sherilyn Ambrose's encounter rate level?
Quote from: Zaiaku on Apr 27, 2023, 01:57 AMSo can I have a more detailed explanation of what was missed in 1.10.4 that needed a small update?
you would be playing 1.10.5.4 with only one spycam and no nature's way law. Unless photoshoping was still possible in computer class.
Question, how can I keep track of the financial stuff? There used to be a tab of financial stuff in previous versions but I can't find it anywhere. How do you do it now?
Thank you! Added link to image.
Edit: https://ibb.co/g4RHdrh
Edit #2: Found it! PC -> Statistics -> Accounting
My corrruption seems to be stuck at 52 but my inhibition and lust are really low and high, I have tried dropping toys around the school and hypno and drugs but cant seem to make any meaningful improvements to corruption. Any ideas?
Probably a really dumb question but what exactly does the exclamation point next to peoples name in the sidebar mean?
Quote from: The Great Azbell on May 10, 2023, 09:19 PMProbably a really dumb question but what exactly does the exclamation point next to peoples name in the sidebar mean?
The "!" means they're tagged as a Quest NPC. For most NPCs that means there's a questline to corrupt them.
Something strange (in your neighborhood) I noticed since an update or so ago. Ever since I began seeing Futa x Female hallway sex, I don't recall seeing a single Male x Female hallway sex scene. This doesn't have anything to do with me having Futa as a fetish does it, because I'm okay with seeing both
also, barteke22, was something changed today or did you just edit your release post?
There was an issue with the blacklist function (fixed internally / experimental). Nothing changed, just reformatted some info.
Seriously, am I just getting bad luck or is there a reason there are no nuns in the church my last few new games? Can I edit something to force a few nuns in location like there are always nurses at the hospital?
https://ibb.co/WGNbGjY
Looking at this screen with suggestions for advice - I got some ideas.
1) I would like to sort them somehow by complexity - first, so that the ones that are easier to complete or have smaller and adequate requirements for any parameters go (the order in your experienced opinion, I haven't played the game for a long time and now I just enjoy it)
2) Is it possible to highlight with color those where you fit in terms of parameters? From green - where the council will accept with a probability of 60-70%, to yellow, where 40-60% and red, where the council will accept in 0-30% of the votes.
Quote from: dalzomo on May 26, 2023, 09:44 PMSeriously, am I just getting bad luck or is there a reason there are no nuns in the church my last few new games? Can I edit something to force a few nuns in location like there are always nurses at the hospital?
The nuns are from Stargazing Club.
Quote from: Dimka2010 on May 26, 2023, 09:55 PM...
That could be a mod, it goes against the game's design to give you answers for things you don't know.
Quote from: barteke22 on May 26, 2023, 10:22 PMQuote from: dalzomo on May 26, 2023, 09:44 PMSeriously, am I just getting bad luck or is there a reason there are no nuns in the church my last few new games? Can I edit something to force a few nuns in location like there are always nurses at the hospital?
The nuns are from Stargazing Club.
Well damn. I *liked* the nuns but the Stargazing Club didn't quite mesh with me so I dropped it. I guess I need to figure out how to get the nuns w/o the full mod >_<
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
Did the changes made change the way Sierra Hardman's quest worked? Cause i used to be able to plow right through, no pun intended, but now going from 69 to any of the actual sex scenes get styimed. Playing as a futa with cheated Appearance, intelligence and stamina. No mods other than the update mod with regenerated old personalities, GPCC and population generator. Futa shouldn't be blacklisted.
In every democratic system I know, when you abstain, it means - like PTA members say - you don't have a clear opinion or are not interested or whatever, then you're ok to let the others decide.
But, in HH+, your abstention equals a NO++: with 15 PTA members, if 6 members (more than a third) vote No, your proposal can pass... but it can't if these 6 members do not care enough to vote !
I know it's only a game, but if the word democracy means anything, why don't you change that?
I have to say I play this game since the beginning and I didn't notice that before. Shame on me...
Quote from: a_principal on Jun 16, 2023, 10:27 AMIn every democratic system I know, when you abstain, it means - like PTA members say - you don't have a clear opinion or are not interested or whatever, then you're ok to let the others decide.
But, in HH+, your abstention equals a NO++: with 15 PTA members, if 6 members (more than a third) vote No, your proposal can pass... but it can't if these 6 members do not care enough to vote !
I know it's only a game, but if the word democracy means anything, why don't you change that?
I have to say I play this game since the beginning and I didn't notice that before. Shame on me...
In real life democratic systems, you often require a voting quorum in order to decide a question, and abstention may or may not prevent someone from counting toward meeting the quorum.
Presumably the PTA has the quorum set at 2/3, and requires an active vote in order to be counted toward the quorum, so you only pass measures where there's enough interest, more of those who care are in favour, and no-one is prepared to veto.
If at least a third of the PTA feels they don't have enough information to offer an opinion on the matter, then it's reasonable to defer deciding until people have had the chance to research and decide.
Quote from: grey_shadow on Jun 16, 2023, 04:25 PMQuote from: a_principal on Jun 16, 2023, 10:27 AMIn every democratic system I know, when you abstain, it means - like PTA members say - you don't have a clear opinion or are not interested or whatever, then you're ok to let the others decide.
But, in HH+, your abstention equals a NO++: with 15 PTA members, if 6 members (more than a third) vote No, your proposal can pass... but it can't if these 6 members do not care enough to vote !
I know it's only a game, but if the word democracy means anything, why don't you change that?
I have to say I play this game since the beginning and I didn't notice that before. Shame on me...
In real life democratic systems, you often require a voting quorum in order to decide a question, and abstention may or may not prevent someone from counting toward meeting the quorum.
Presumably the PTA has the quorum set at 2/3, and requires an active vote in order to be counted toward the quorum, so you only pass measures where there's enough interest, more of those who care are in favour, and no-one is prepared to veto.
If at least a third of the PTA feels they don't have enough information to offer an opinion on the matter, then it's reasonable to defer deciding until people have had the chance to research and decide.
Ok, I knew about quorums. I have to admit I never thought about it here... because I didn't find the word quorum in the rules: there are so many rules I maybe missed it and missed the part about the required active vote too.
Thanks for your quick answer. From now, I'll take a note about members who abstain and, if they abstain again in the next meeting, let me say I'll be very angry ! >:( A whole week for nothing? So, no respect for their mission? ::)
I haven't looked into it since I don't know enough about it, but wouldn't this be a way to reverse the censorship on the images?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimeResearch/comments/wuhn0u/deepcreampy_hentai_guide_installation_and_anime/
Or have an AI create entirely new images.
Quote from: Reddead on Jun 21, 2023, 08:36 PMI haven't looked into it since I don't know enough about it, but wouldn't this be a way to reverse the censorship on the images?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimeResearch/comments/wuhn0u/deepcreampy_hentai_guide_installation_and_anime/
Or have an AI create entirely new images.
Someone's experimented with this at https://henthighschool.net/hhs-mods/mod-ai-decensor/ if you want to have a look.
Tell me what are the conditions for creating a bdsm club, opening Practical Sex Education lesson.
Okay, so I'm playing a Futa and have raised Sally Proudbottom and Priscilla Rosenlace's relationship scores with the Player Character to over 20.
Yet they keep shooting down my requests for a Striptease.
"After all I don't swing that way". Well, this much I understand. I have no problem there.
"But maybe someday!" WTF is this... Are you just messing with me or something?
So then I just quit out and the PC throws out a line about them being fetching and I get a +1 Relationship score for it - which is how I got them from Relationship 10 to Relationship 20.
This is silly. One of the students (who also "doesn't swing that way") happily stripped for me when I asked for it.
And the we have Peach Proudbottom. One gift and it's "I don't need anything". Her Subtype is "Lover" now.
I am NOT reverting EVERYONE back to the previous system just for her.
I find Seduction far more rewarding than Drugs/Hypno when it works. But I'm not seeing any other way forward in the above three cases. Yes, they are all written to be 100% straight but so was that one student I mentioned. Maybe her arousal had something to do with it.
Arousal probably has a lot to do with it, and also I believe loyalty (or authority for students? I forget precisely, the GenSex docs probably have the full formulas) also turns into an effective way to override lacking underlying attraction.
The general relationship-building system's pretty old and might feel a bit clunky; particularly in how it tells you what you need to know, or rather fails to do so. I'm not sure if "maybe someday" means "Your -50 attraction penalty for sexual preference mismatch still left the total above 0", or is just a throwaway line.
As they say, "so's spaghetti until it gets wet".
Lack of gift options in the new NPC archetypes system is just one of those WIP things, I guess. Unless "Lover" is the "high lust" archetype and hence you only need one gift and then you can catch then at an arousal peak?
I've found even the slightest amounts of grunge to affect my ask for sex results negatively. Enough so that my principal has turned into something of a neat freak, showering quite frequently. I keep meaning to check if cologne would offset it some but keep forgetting to, plus I'm afraid the showering would wash off the cologne and I'd just burn through it too fast if it's not bugged to be infinitely usable like razors are
I've also found strange results for some ask for sex options. Like the same NPC would react with revulsion if I ask them to striptease, but say "maybe someday" if I ask to fondle them in the changing room shower - an interaction I would think is more lewd
Player's grunge will point-for-point offset both Appearance/Stamina
and Charisma, i.e. it's counted
twice, when calculating how attracted an NPC is to the player.
I realised the formula is not actually documented in the GenSex doc; the VEE event GetAttraction is simply named, but the math is not given.
For "How attracted is an NPC to the player":
Spoiler
- (MC Appearance + MC Stamina - MC Grunge - NPC Appearance) / 4 : -50..50
- (Absolute difference of NPC Authority and MC Willpower)/ 5 : 0..20
- (Absolute difference of NPC Willpower and MC Authority)/ 5 : 0..20
- (MC Charisma - MC Grunge) / 4 : -25..25
- Gender attraction score: -60..5
- (A relationship bonus: NPC's relationship towards the MC x 2 capped at 100, with a fallback to a friendship or loyalty-based calculation capped at 50) / 4: 0..25
These are all added up, and multiplied with any penalties (50% to 120% each) for large age differences or incest, moderated by related fetishes, and corruption.
Then capped into a range of 0..100, but the raw range is -75..140 before penalties or gender-attraction score checking, so the range skews low, and trying to flip someone's orientation makes it much harder.
Note that there's a comment over to the right in the GetAttraction VEE event, but it doesn't match the actual logic correctly in the relationship bonus.
To give some context, Susan Hooter for example starts at Appearance 40, Authority 20, Willpower 80, and Loyalty 10. So if you turn off HasQuest checking, and build friendship to 100 and hence Relationship to 10, and have say 80 in your stats across the board and are male, your attraction will be (75 - (grunge x 2)), i.e. 30 grunge will absolutely tank her attraction. And for harder cases, grunge can easily be the difference.
So yeah, grunge is probably the most-impactful attribute for this calculation, it has equal weighting with the relationship score but greater impact.
And that's before considering that attraction is also combined with arousal and current
stamina energy level (and maybe others, I forget) when determining sexual interactions. A striptease for example might get an inhibition bonus/penalty that isn't applied to shower fondling, but I haven't looked.
Grunge should be handled differently, IMO. The player usually wakes up with between 4 and 6 Grunge on average.
With current calculations, this means starting each day with an overblown attractiveness penalty.
Grunge affecting Appearance and Charisma, yes. That's fine. But just why is Stamina brought into the calculation? I can't understand that at all.
With the exact stats you listed Hooter's attraction would be close to 70 depending on her gender preferences ((80+80-30-40)/4) + (abs(20-80)/5) + (abs(80-80)/5) + ((80-30)/4) + X + X.
Grunge penalty is closer to 1-1.25x, since for the 1/4th portion the MC starts at 100 (50 Appearance & 50 Stamina).
Might still be high, but it basically does less than arousal did previously.
Stamina is the only measure of 'fitness' we have, around 75 would be someone with slight abs / sporty body.
Sex requires minimum 20-30 Attraction, and then the Willingness (Attraction + stuff like lust & relationship) determines the rest.
If you don't like it, feel free to propose a better step by step calculation for everything (these are in some way part of things like dating, flirt, askforsex, and a bunch of other minor systems) in the Game balance thread. Feel free to redo all these systems.
I only took in a few of the requests that didn't require scrapping everything: Hints for what was already there (gender, age, etc penalties + some new ones & flirting), bugfixes (calculation was giving 100 points too many by accident), making it less reliant on arousal (previously Arousal was more impactful than current Grunge, requiring 50/70+ for most things), making relationship or lust (casual) more impactful (they can at a point mostly replace arousal now).
Quote from: barteke22 on Jul 04, 2023, 06:29 PMWith the exact stats you listed Hooter's attraction would be close to 70 depending on her gender preferences ((80+80-30-40)/4) + (abs(20-80)/5) + (abs(80-80)/5) + ((80-30)/4) + X + X.
Grunge penalty is closer to 1-1.25x, since for the 1/4th portion the MC starts at 100 (50 Appearance & 50 Stamina).
How do you figure that? 30 grunge by my count drops attraction by 15, while 30 appearance raises attraction by only 7.5. There's no clamping-to-positive before it's all added together, so including it twice in the calculation makes it twice as impactful as any other of the "/4" factors.
As seen in the "Exact stats" comparison (ignoring the relationship bonus and gender-match) for 30 grunge:
((80+80-0-40)/4) + (abs(20-80)/5) + (abs(80-80)/5) + ((80-0)/4) = 62 (base case)
((80+80-30-40)/4) + (abs(20-80)/5) + (abs(80-80)/5) + ((80-30)/4) = 47 (+30 grunge)
((20+80-0-40)/4) + (abs(20-80)/5) + (abs(80-80)/5) + ((80-0)/4) = 47 (-60 appearance)
To be clear, I don't think grunge having a higher impact is a problem specifically. It's so much easier to improve than any other stat anyway, as there's no grinding involved. And showering/bathing gives back some energy as well, which improves willingness checks as well.
is there away to turn on the pc cam events for when you get horny instead of just searching for porn ? or was it fully removed ?
Quote from: whocares616 on Jul 07, 2023, 06:59 AMis there away to turn on the pc cam events for when you get horny instead of just searching for porn ? or was it fully removed ?
they're at different thresholds of horniness. You need to be hornier to look for camgirls than to jerk off, apparently
I'd be surprised if any events have been removed, but I'm not sure which events you're talking about.
This is on the home PC, right? There's a "Search for cam whore" event but it's rather incomplete and only appears if the player is male and attracted to males. (It's also only visible if the player is over 75 arousal.)
Quote from: TBBle on Jul 07, 2023, 08:53 AMThere's a "Search for cam whore" event but it's rather incomplete and only appears if the player is male and attracted to males.
This makes me sad.
Quote from: TBBle on Jul 07, 2023, 08:53 AMI'd be surprised if any events have been removed, but I'm not sure which events you're talking about.
This is on the home PC, right? There's a "Search for cam whore" event but it's rather incomplete and only appears if the player is male and attracted to males. (It's also only visible if the player is over 75 arousal.)
My director is attracted to all and I do get the "search for cam whore" event whenever he's at home with enough energy and arousal. On a rough estimate, I'd say that 80% of the time it's a girl that connects - so, why the requirement for male attraction? Just to cover for those 20% of the times a male will answer? Would it be trickier to add a check that prevents males from responding if the MC isn't attracted to males? (since searching online for cam performers usually isn't like a "blind date", you can choose what you want to begin with, so it would make sense?)
Quote from: barteke22 on May 14, 2022, 02:24 AM• Gender transformation leaving all other body mods disabled (following completion)
Sorry about quoting this old release note from 1.9.5 - still haven't found any gender transformation content in the game in the later versions; is it connected to late-game chem lab potions?
It would be interesting if the "short" Red Light District quest (that ends with the MC giving the bouncer a blow job) could be continued in the same spirit, with a male MC being forced to "use their feminine side" to progress further and further, possibly including body and outfit changes?
Quote from: atonier on Jul 12, 2023, 11:37 PMMy director is attracted to all and I do get the "search for cam whore" event whenever he's at home with enough energy and arousal. On a rough estimate, I'd say that 80% of the time it's a girl that connects - so, why the requirement for male attraction? Just to cover for those 20% of the times a male will answer?
This is part of why the quest needs rework, it kind-of predates the current gender-attraction mechanics, so it's sending you down a "bisexual" path, which
should be an even split of male-attracted males and male-attracted females. Are you counting the times it says "You didn't find anyone", as that message is after it decides what gender partner to use, if there isn't anyone non-special who's aroused enough to join the session.
When it finds a female, you should be seeing a TODO error that this path is unfinished.
The underlying thing that's surprising you is that the (later-added) "Only male-male" check accepts bisexual MC, but the older code in the actual event happily finds a female partner for a bisexual MC, and so hits the WIP path, i.e. whoever neutered the event to only run the male-male path overlooked that bisexual males can still hit a WIP path, and should either have limited it to heterosexual males, or changed the code to send bisexual MCs down the homosexual path.
Quote from: TBBle on Jul 13, 2023, 05:59 AMThe underlying thing that's surprising you is that the (later-added) "Only male-male" check accepts bisexual MC, but the older code in the actual event happily finds a female partner for a bisexual MC, and so hits the WIP path, i.e. whoever neutered the event to only run the male-male path overlooked that bisexual males can still hit a WIP path, and should either have limited it to heterosexual males, or changed the code to send bisexual MCs down the homosexual path.
I do get a WIP warning when a female is selected. Please don't change it, as you guys work on the event :P the warning doesn't stop the event, so it's not game-breaking and it sometimes leads to a positive outcome with a student being on the other end and earning a few buffs :P
Regarding the fact that older code expected a bisexual director but the new code doesn't - one thing I find fun in games is where characters are made to do things they most reluctantly would do. So, considering there's a gender preference code in place, there could be a few events designed to push the boundaries - gender preference, kink avoidance, etc - with a path always available to avoid that would be costly (heavy reputational, financial, relationship costs, etc, but nothing that would affect the game on the whole if the player chooses to firmly refuse). It was more or less along these line that I mentioned the Red Light district sounded like it could have a future development into a small humiliation/submission of the MC chain of events (since the current outcome already could be considered humiliating, more so if the director is a hetero male). So may I ask this related question, is there already more content of the sort currently coded into the game?
can someone tell me something about my problem? I don't see models of people unless they are selected separately. that is, even if there is a crowd on the street, I only see the street itself without people on it. I just downloaded the game, I haven't changed it in any way yet.
v 1.10.5.2 Release Eng / 1.9.5-2050.41 (update_37)
Quote from: Alex1247289 on Aug 22, 2023, 06:46 PMcan someone tell me something about my problem? I don't see models of people unless they are selected separately. that is, even if there is a crowd on the street, I only see the street itself without people on it. I just downloaded the game, I haven't changed it in any way yet.
v 1.10.5.2 Release Eng / 1.9.5-2050.41 (update_37)
Why do you have two versions of the base game?
1.9.5 is not needed anymore. Even Lexville has been updated to work with 1.10.x. You're also using an outdated version of the main game. 1.10.5.7 is the lastest. Please update your main game and stop using 1.9.5 completely.The best thing you could do for yourself (to prevent confusion) is to obliterate anything to do with the game from your hard drive, download the latest version and start a fresh new save.
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Aug 23, 2023, 01:10 AMQuote from: Alex1247289 on Aug 22, 2023, 06:46 PMcan someone tell me something about my problem? I don't see models of people unless they are selected separately. that is, even if there is a crowd on the street, I only see the street itself without people on it. I just downloaded the game, I haven't changed it in any way yet.
v 1.10.5.2 Release Eng / 1.9.5-2050.41 (update_37)
Why do you have two versions of the base game?
1.9.5 is not needed anymore. Even Lexville has been updated to work with 1.10.x. You're also using an outdated version of the main game. 1.10.5.7 is the lastest. Please update your main game and stop using 1.9.5 completely.The best thing you could do for yourself (to prevent confusion) is to obliterate anything to do with the game from your hard drive, download the latest version and start a fresh new save.
I don't know, I just copied it from the site I downloaded it from. and I haven't seen version 1.10.5.7 anywhere. can you give a link to the download site? I was looking at a sort of game website
https://ww1.henthighschool.com/hhsplus /
, but I have it shown empty and I do not know what is there.
You're on the official forums for the game; you should probably get your copy of the game from these same forums at the official release thread (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/hhs-1-10-0-official-release-thread/).
Quote from: Alex1247289 on Aug 23, 2023, 05:17 AMI don't know, I just copied it from the site I downloaded it from. and I haven't seen version 1.10.5.7 anywhere. can you give a link to the download site? I was looking at a sort of game website
https://ww1.henthighschool.com/hhsplus /
, but I have it shown empty and I do not know what is there.
The old site is gone but there are people trying restore what's possible and move it here.
I think your problems stems from having conflicting versions bouncing off each other.
For instance, 1.9.5 couldn't display so many paper dolls on screen so a mod was made to handle that. This mod is now core in 1.10.X.
Thanks
What are requirements for triggering Annette bondage events during random visit? I recall getting some of them before, but haven't seen them lately. In current run she is not allowed to invite others to reduce chances of other events interfering with those events.
Quote from: Dzeris on Dec 01, 2023, 02:49 AMWhat are requirements for triggering Annette bondage events during random visit and during her cam show? I recall getting some of them before, but haven't seen them lately. In current run she is not allowed to invite others to reduce chances of other events interfering with those events.
I have literally never seen anything with Annette that I'd describe as bondage. Are you sure it wasn't from a mod you no longer use?
Quote from: dalzomo on Dec 01, 2023, 02:55 AMQuote from: Dzeris on Dec 01, 2023, 02:49 AMWhat are requirements for triggering Annette bondage events during random visit and during her cam show? I recall getting some of them before, but haven't seen them lately. In current run she is not allowed to invite others to reduce chances of other events interfering with those events.
I have literally never seen anything with Annette that I'd describe as bondage. Are you sure it wasn't from a mod you no longer use?
Files are in base game.
Schools\NormalSchool\Images\EventPictures\Character\Annette\AnnetteWork\Annette_webcam_level_3 (2) <= that one might be female PC and I tend to play futas
Schools\NormalSchool\Images\EventPictures\Character\Annette\Bedroom\SisterSleepBondage (1) to (10)
Schools\NormalSchool\Images\EventPictures\Character\Annette\Uniform\Bondage*
Schools\NormalSchool\Events\Location\Your Guest Room\AnnetteSleepBondage.ve.xml
I guess I'll turn on bondage uniforms for starters after Parker does her things and I won't care about hit on loyalty.
Quote from: Dzeris on Dec 01, 2023, 03:00 AMQuote from: dalzomo on Dec 01, 2023, 02:55 AMQuote from: Dzeris on Dec 01, 2023, 02:49 AMWhat are requirements for triggering Annette bondage events during random visit and during her cam show? I recall getting some of them before, but haven't seen them lately. In current run she is not allowed to invite others to reduce chances of other events interfering with those events.
I have literally never seen anything with Annette that I'd describe as bondage. Are you sure it wasn't from a mod you no longer use?
Files are in base game.
Schools\NormalSchool\Images\EventPictures\Character\Annette\AnnetteWork\Annette_webcam_level_3 (2) <= that one might be female PC and I tend to play futas
Schools\NormalSchool\Images\EventPictures\Character\Annette\Bedroom\SisterSleepBondage (1) to (10)
Schools\NormalSchool\Images\EventPictures\Character\Annette\Uniform\Bondage*
Schools\NormalSchool\Events\Location\Your Guest Room\AnnetteSleepBondage.ve.xml
I guess I'll turn on bondage uniforms for starters after Parker does her things and I won't care about hit on loyalty.
Huh, right on. Guess I'll have to look into this since bondage is my jam. Tho I play a male MC. Wonder if that's why I haven't seen them
Quote from: dalzomo on Dec 01, 2023, 05:59 AMQuote from: Dzeris on Dec 01, 2023, 02:49 AMWhat are requirements for triggering Annette bondage events during random visit and during her cam show? I recall getting some of them before, but haven't seen them lately. In current run she is not allowed to invite others to reduce chances of other events interfering with those events.
Huh, right on. Guess I'll have to look into this since bondage is my jam. Tho I play a male MC. Wonder if that's why I haven't seen them
The requirements for sleep bondage are: Between 9pm and 5am, Annette bedroom events are possible (e.g. not too soon since the last one), willing to wander around at home naked, Bondage class is enabled, and she's at "High" sex level (50 Lust and Arousal, 40 Inhibition).
Annette_webcam_level_3 (2) is not currently used, it's in a TODO path in Annette's webcam event marked for female PC PoV. I'm not sure why it's TODO, it looks like the same circumstances as
Annette_webcam_masturbate_2.jpg, so has possibly just been forgotten to be hooked up?
Any reason why generic futas are added to game, when Schools\NormalSchool\PopulationData\Sources\AdultAny.xml and StudentAny.xml got their weight as 0 or even have them removed from weighted sources?
I can remove all male students from school by adjusting weights.
Weights do not work for adult pop?
There needs to be some sort of tag for collared slaves, I mean I get the game circles around corruption of the whole city but it kills the mood when I make a group of slave girls, collar them and then I find them in corruption events in school getting dicked by one or more of the bois.
So yeah that fucking sucks
Quote from: Dzeris on Feb 23, 2024, 04:05 AMAny reason why generic futas are added to game, when Schools\NormalSchool\PopulationData\Sources\AdultAny.xml and StudentAny.xml got their weight as 0 or even have them removed from weighted sources?
I can remove all male students from school by adjusting weights.
Weights do not work for adult pop?
It looks like all the other files in the Sources folder that reference 'Futa' may be your issue; for example, it looks like 'AdultFemaleFuta' is set up to turn 20% of characters that are initially rolled as Female into Futas.
Try resetting the weighting in those files and see if you get the desired results.