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Give us your ideas for new yaoi content

Started by Ame, Jun 19, 2022, 12:21 AM

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AmeTopic starter

Hello all! I have taken it upon myself to expand and improve the yaoi experience in the game. Right now, what's there is little, sparse and largely unfinished. My current priorities lie with finishing up the unfinished chains my predecessors left behind, but once I'm done with that I would like to move onto entirely new content.

This will come in two forms: new storylines, often involving entirely new characters, and generic events that mostly just trigger for randomly generated NPCs (think of things like that class events or the beach events). I have a few ideas of my own, but many heads are better than one, so please feel free to suggest both new chains and new generic content/one-time or repeatable events. If you could point me to suitable images for them, all the better, though you don't have to.

Speaking of images, I plan on adding male images to the location spycams as well, so you may also point me to images for that.

Thanks in advance!

Malorn

Glad to hear someone is planning the Yaoi side of things, I've always felt bad about how neglected I've left that (I tried, I really did, but I am too straight to handle it.).

Let me know if I can help out with anything or answer any questions. I've always thought a good starting place might be sports related, since that will have a lot of imagery and concepts. Perhaps the school showers as well, those have plenty of female content but could very equally have male content.

AmeTopic starter

Quote from: Malorn on Jun 20, 2022, 07:07 PMGlad to hear someone is planning the Yaoi side of things, I've always felt bad about how neglected I've left that (I tried, I really did, but I am too straight to handle it.).

Let me know if I can help out with anything or answer any questions. I've always thought a good starting place might be sports related, since that will have a lot of imagery and concepts. Perhaps the school showers as well, those have plenty of female content but could very equally have male content.

Excited to hear that! And don't worry, I get you. I'm the exact same but regarding straight content. In any case, what can you help me out with? If you want you can DM me and we can continue this conversation there.

Shilo

Quote from: Malorn on Jun 20, 2022, 07:07 PMGlad to hear someone is planning the Yaoi side of things, I've always felt bad about how neglected I've left that (I tried, I really did, but I am too straight to handle it.).

I was under the impression that critics of the game would say that it has too much yaoi content compared to everything else, courtesy of Aesaris. :D

Masked

Hey, new to the community so I realize that some of these might be already talked about/dismissed, but just want to leave these here in case I'm unable to help write(want to). Also, I am admittedly proposing a rewrite for two characters...but those characters are either unfinished or kind play into a harmful stereotype. Warning, this will be a long comment.

Totally new content-
It's been stirring around in my head for a bit, and something I am willing to write myself if allowed to, but a male chem teacher. To my knowledge, while other teachers can teach chemistry, there isn't one specifically for it. I personally like the idea of him being a foreigner who is on a work-visa for teaching at the school for the explanation on how the blackmail and corruption works. 

Somewhat new-
Content to help corrupt church, starting with the head priest/father. Would probably have to tie-in the suspected fling and accidental pregnancy with the religious teacher, but that needs developed anyways. Maybe start off with interacting and noticing he has certain features/mannerisms similar to one of the students? And then slowly corrupting him from there? So much content is intertwined with the school, that it is genuinely annoying to corrupt the town. Plus, going from a sexually repressed church to a sex-neutral church to sex-positive church would help flesh out the town and help show the corruption of it, maybe even aid in it? Seriously though, I just think content that'd actually help corrupt the town without brute-forcing it would be nince.

Only new content, but not new story-lines/characters-
 Work done on the Andy line, maybe even a bit of a rewrite of the proposed line. I think especially with a boom in appreciation of more androgynous men, rather than him being another crossdressing character(or at least implied), maybe just have him be more feminine but not fully disavowing more masculine aspects of himself(like keep the panties, but maybe he also likes wearing fashion-jockstraps? just a example). Plus, maybe it's just me but the story line...when compared to the sister line...is a bit weird for a sex game? Like his line seems very focused on keeping him mostly non-sexual compared to the sister choice, which kinda makes me feel his story was just so that everyone would 'technically' have a choice(and even then it leans heavily into making him want to be more feminine). It's something that'd have to be agreed on by others, but with him so incomplete it'd be a good change IMO.
TlDR; Andy's line expanded/rewritten to be more in-line with the sister's line in terms of sexual stuff and more of him being androgynous/GNC rather than trying to feminize him.

  Probably the most controversial thing I'm gonna say in this thread. Expanding/rewriting Carl's storyline to be more in line with other characters. His is another one that seemed designed just to tick a box, and kinda leans into a harmful stereotype of gay men(I know that everyone in-game is 18+ officially). Especially when comparing it to every other corruptible character who aren't necessarily committing full-on crimes up until the very end? And even then it's by the PC's manipulation? Not saying it needs to be entirely scrapped, but still I can't lie that thinking about it in detail, that his current story has a bad taste in my mouth. Doesn't need to be fully clean, just more in line with other characters in terms of what can be considered blackmailable rather than the only character other than the neighbor who could be considered corrupt pre-PC? And him being the only character who was caught? Once again, something that'd need to be green-lit, but just something I'd think would be nice.
TLDR; Expand/Rewrite Carl's line so he isn't leaning into the stereotype about gay men being predators for his corruption, especially when it feels out-of-place compared to every other character whom while might have reputation-harming factors to their story and thus blackmailable, aren't/weren't literally nearly convicted for an actual crime. Doesn't need to be squeaky-clean, but at least near the same level as other characters(not including PC).

 And yes, I'm not counting a drug addict and prostitute as criminals because one is the symptom of a problem and IMO should never be treated as a crime until they enable others to develop it(aka being a dealer). While for the prostitute that is inherently complicated to talk about, and honestly would be hypocritical of us to deem her a criminal while playing a sex-game where you can hire a prostitute. Also, to quickly clarify I don't want to assume no gay people helped with the game, but the writing for the currently existing yaoi isn't strong when compared to straight material outside of material that would tie in with a straight storyline.

AmeTopic starter

Quote from: Masked on Jun 23, 2022, 08:25 PMHey, new to the community so I realize that some of these might be already talked about/dismissed, but just want to leave these here in case I'm unable to help write(want to). Also, I am admittedly proposing a rewrite for two characters...but those characters are either unfinished or kind play into a harmful stereotype. Warning, this will be a long comment.

Totally new content-
It's been stirring around in my head for a bit, and something I am willing to write myself if allowed to, but a male chem teacher. To my knowledge, while other teachers can teach chemistry, there isn't one specifically for it. I personally like the idea of him being a foreigner who is on a work-visa for teaching at the school for the explanation on how the blackmail and corruption works. 

Somewhat new-
Content to help corrupt church, starting with the head priest/father. Would probably have to tie-in the suspected fling and accidental pregnancy with the religious teacher, but that needs developed anyways. Maybe start off with interacting and noticing he has certain features/mannerisms similar to one of the students? And then slowly corrupting him from there? So much content is intertwined with the school, that it is genuinely annoying to corrupt the town. Plus, going from a sexually repressed church to a sex-neutral church to sex-positive church would help flesh out the town and help show the corruption of it, maybe even aid in it? Seriously though, I just think content that'd actually help corrupt the town without brute-forcing it would be nince.

Only new content, but not new story-lines/characters-
 Work done on the Andy line, maybe even a bit of a rewrite of the proposed line. I think especially with a boom in appreciation of more androgynous men, rather than him being another crossdressing character(or at least implied), maybe just have him be more feminine but not fully disavowing more masculine aspects of himself(like keep the panties, but maybe he also likes wearing fashion-jockstraps? just a example). Plus, maybe it's just me but the story line...when compared to the sister line...is a bit weird for a sex game? Like his line seems very focused on keeping him mostly non-sexual compared to the sister choice, which kinda makes me feel his story was just so that everyone would 'technically' have a choice(and even then it leans heavily into making him want to be more feminine). It's something that'd have to be agreed on by others, but with him so incomplete it'd be a good change IMO.
TlDR; Andy's line expanded/rewritten to be more in-line with the sister's line in terms of sexual stuff and more of him being androgynous/GNC rather than trying to feminize him.

  Probably the most controversial thing I'm gonna say in this thread. Expanding/rewriting Carl's storyline to be more in line with other characters. His is another one that seemed designed just to tick a box, and kinda leans into a harmful stereotype of gay men(I know that everyone in-game is 18+ officially). Especially when comparing it to every other corruptible character who aren't necessarily committing full-on crimes up until the very end? And even then it's by the PC's manipulation? Not saying it needs to be entirely scrapped, but still I can't lie that thinking about it in detail, that his current story has a bad taste in my mouth. Doesn't need to be fully clean, just more in line with other characters in terms of what can be considered blackmailable rather than the only character other than the neighbor who could be considered corrupt pre-PC? And him being the only character who was caught? Once again, something that'd need to be green-lit, but just something I'd think would be nice.
TLDR; Expand/Rewrite Carl's line so he isn't leaning into the stereotype about gay men being predators for his corruption, especially when it feels out-of-place compared to every other character whom while might have reputation-harming factors to their story and thus blackmailable, aren't/weren't literally nearly convicted for an actual crime. Doesn't need to be squeaky-clean, but at least near the same level as other characters(not including PC).

 And yes, I'm not counting a drug addict and prostitute as criminals because one is the symptom of a problem and IMO should never be treated as a crime until they enable others to develop it(aka being a dealer). While for the prostitute that is inherently complicated to talk about, and honestly would be hypocritical of us to deem her a criminal while playing a sex-game where you can hire a prostitute. Also, to quickly clarify I don't want to assume no gay people helped with the game, but the writing for the currently existing yaoi isn't strong when compared to straight material outside of material that would tie in with a straight storyline.

Hello! And thank you for the lengthy and detailed suggestions, I appreciate that more than I can express. Now, onto the specifics: I agree 100% with the point that corrupting the town is at best difficult, and indeed it seems the church has ample potential for becoming a means by which to corrupt the town. I'd love to help in developing a chain like that at some point. Now, regarding Andy, given he is plenty incomplete as is and the guidance left behind by my predecessor is barebones, we can do whatever we want with him really. I think it would be neat to have him be gnc and all that and it does feel more natural than transitioning him into a trap or whatever to me. Though I must say that him not being very sexual (without having looked at the Annette chain myself) probably has to do with his main chain not being very far-developed. That can change.

Now onto things I'm not opposed to but that are a little more complicated. It's probably prudent to consult the others before adding a teacher, though it shouldn't be a problem balancing wise (as there are already budgetary constraints) and the addition of a male teacher to break up the teacher tacofest a little is something I'm personally rather supportive of.

As for the Carl Walker thing... oh man. I'm very sympathetic to the point you're making, I am a gay man myself. But also altering existing content to make it less potentially controversial is something that certain people might take objection to. Additionally, there *is* the character of Carmen Smith, whose whole storyline is about having a questionable relationship with a (and later multiple) students. Although it might be possible to amend the wording in his chain to make it less judgmental-sounding in comparison to Carmen and the neighbour for example.

All in all, I like your ideas and it would be pretty awesome to have another person (especially someone familiar with male anatomy lmao) working on this project with me. It would help me loads given it's a big and rather solitary project to undertake alone. Maybe you could take a look at joining as a contributor? I do most of my work on the Discord: https://discord.gg/u8rsGaNgHA. No pressure, but if you're interested, you can add Ame#1150 and/or bing me in the contributor chat. Thanks for all this, and in advance!

Malorn

Quote from: Ame on Jun 23, 2022, 05:22 PMExcited to hear that! And don't worry, I get you. I'm the exact same but regarding straight content. In any case, what can you help me out with? If you want you can DM me and we can continue this conversation there.

What I could mostly provide is resources and help with the VEE. If you run into any questions with the functionlibrary: things like tryforschoolevents or any of the GeneralSexHandling events. Or just tricks of event creation in general. I'd also check out the pinned event creation quick tips, which is just some random musing.

We also haven't created the thread with all the image sites yet, so we'll work on the in the coming weeks as well. I know several of the ones I use also have yaoi content in fairly large amounts.

I can say with authority that you can do just about anything you want with Andy, btw. And please feel free to adjust wording and text in any yaoi related events if we have a judgemental sounding patch. It wasn't intended that way, and may have just been reflective of the feel of the character. As for Carl...well, he's pretty bisexual overall, though honestly I have no issue with not pushing the female focus for his character. He is certainly quite the predator, and I can agree with toning that down to a extent. Not a full whitewashing, obviously, but making him comparable to Samantha Keller would be quite reasonable, she's very predatory as well.

Also, if you ever feel ambitious, feel free to create another male teacher who is entirely gay, who might be a much more positive and nice example. Variety is always good, and that can provide more a balanced approach without overly removing an aspect of Carl.

Masked

#7
 Totally understand the Carl part, and ultimately I would say my main hope would just be changing him from being literally the only character who has a criminal(or well near-criminal) record while also leaning into that stereotype. Especially with in certain countries(cough cough, U.S.A., cough cough) that exact stereotype is being used against LGBT+ in general, but especially actual gay men. Like, before this all occurred it was an eh, but now it's kinda feels in bad-taste to keep it in at that level, especially with additions to content occurring for yaoi/gay content.

I definitely think it can and should still be a part of his character, but shouldn't be how he gets blackmailed at the first step, especially when no other corruption line starts off that heavy. It just feels tonally out of place when you compare it to literally every other character who doesn't start off that heavy-handed, not even Samantha starts off quite as overtly predatory in her corruption/blackmail arc. Plus IDK how to even build off of the "so I have evidence that literally proves you shouldn't be near the students", as that quite literally is the start and end of what you'd need to blackmail him. I'd honestly think a "rumor about someone masturbating in the Men's Shower area", camera, "catch him in the act via photo/video", confront him, his explanation(could be truth or lie what he is saying to explain it away), etc.  would be a lot better to start with, and then discover later he is in a relationship with a male student or students(?)-maybe an athlete and an music student since he has baseline content for both?- and then use that to end the blackmail/corruption story for him. Could even use the wrestling club as part of his corruption story rather than a standalone thing(and possibly explain why it would go from mixed sex, to only men, back to mixed). There's a lot of ways to build on his character while toning down the predatory nature to a level that would reasonably let the police lady not question why you hired him(after all, hiring someone the police investigated for being a predator into a situation they can prey on the students should raise red flags logically, at least before her corruption).

 For the male teach idea, it's something I would definitely be okay with waiting until I can prove my ability/there is a green light given. I definitely think a lot of currently-existing characters should be given development before focusing on any new characters added(ex. I would put focus on a corruption arc of the Religion teacher and Church higher than a new teach, even if I could add gay content through the teach).

Edit: also, I will say it doesn't quite read as being full on judgemental, but rather due to the stereotype surrounding gay men, along with execution of literally every other character's blackmail/corruption it feels different. Like there was an unconscious biases that got through and no one noticed or at least didn't speak up about. And not necessarily deliberately homophobic, as practically everyone in this thread has said, we have content we just can't write. It just means it's better to bring someone in who can write it and be conscious of these stereotypes as at least a proofreader. His sex scene was literally just a basic blowjob, yet in so many 18+ gay porn stories it frequently is more than just that, so it probably was someone at least somewhat outside their comfort zone writing.  Best way my nerd brain can think of it is the animation of Genshin Impact's boobs...aka something you can tell was not made by someone with personal experience with them. Not exactly meaning they are a bad person or animator(or in this case writer) just should've had someone helping them and going "this is a bit too far".

AmeTopic starter

Quote from: Malorn on Jun 24, 2022, 01:25 AM
Quote from: Ame on Jun 23, 2022, 05:22 PMExcited to hear that! And don't worry, I get you. I'm the exact same but regarding straight content. In any case, what can you help me out with? If you want you can DM me and we can continue this conversation there.

What I could mostly provide is resources and help with the VEE. If you run into any questions with the functionlibrary: things like tryforschoolevents or any of the GeneralSexHandling events. Or just tricks of event creation in general. I'd also check out the pinned event creation quick tips, which is just some random musing.

We also haven't created the thread with all the image sites yet, so we'll work on the in the coming weeks as well. I know several of the ones I use also have yaoi content in fairly large amounts.

I can say with authority that you can do just about anything you want with Andy, btw. And please feel free to adjust wording and text in any yaoi related events if we have a judgemental sounding patch. It wasn't intended that way, and may have just been reflective of the feel of the character. As for Carl...well, he's pretty bisexual overall, though honestly I have no issue with not pushing the female focus for his character. He is certainly quite the predator, and I can agree with toning that down to a extent. Not a full whitewashing, obviously, but making him comparable to Samantha Keller would be quite reasonable, she's very predatory as well.

Also, if you ever feel ambitious, feel free to create another male teacher who is entirely gay, who might be a much more positive and nice example. Variety is always good, and that can provide more a balanced approach without overly removing an aspect of Carl.

Oh God yes, I need someone to show me the ropes of VEE in general. I know only very surface-level things about it like editing variables and text in existing events. So yeah I'd love that a lot. And yeah I forgot about Samantha honestly, you make a reasonable point. I'll look into amending that side of things.

Quote from: Masked on Jun 24, 2022, 04:12 AMTotally understand the Carl part, and ultimately I would say my main hope would just be changing him from being literally the only character who has a criminal(or well near-criminal) record while also leaning into that stereotype. Especially with in certain countries(cough cough, U.S.A., cough cough) that exact stereotype is being used against LGBT+ in general, but especially actual gay men. Like, before this all occurred it was an eh, but now it's kinda feels in bad-taste to keep it in at that level, especially with additions to content occurring for yaoi/gay content.

I definitely think it can and should still be a part of his character, but shouldn't be how he gets blackmailed at the first step, especially when no other corruption line starts off that heavy. It just feels tonally out of place when you compare it to literally every other character who doesn't start off that heavy-handed, not even Samantha starts off quite as overtly predatory in her corruption/blackmail arc. Plus IDK how to even build off of the "so I have evidence that literally proves you shouldn't be near the students", as that quite literally is the start and end of what you'd need to blackmail him. I'd honestly think a "rumor about someone masturbating in the Men's Shower area", camera, "catch him in the act via photo/video", confront him, his explanation(could be truth or lie what he is saying to explain it away), etc.  would be a lot better to start with, and then discover later he is in a relationship with a male student or students(?)-maybe an athlete and an music student since he has baseline content for both?- and then use that to end the blackmail/corruption story for him. Could even use the wrestling club as part of his corruption story rather than a standalone thing(and possibly explain why it would go from mixed sex, to only men, back to mixed). There's a lot of ways to build on his character while toning down the predatory nature to a level that would reasonably let the police lady not question why you hired him(after all, hiring someone the police investigated for being a predator into a situation they can prey on the students should raise red flags logically, at least before her corruption).

 For the male teach idea, it's something I would definitely be okay with waiting until I can prove my ability/there is a green light given. I definitely think a lot of currently-existing characters should be given development before focusing on any new characters added(ex. I would put focus on a corruption arc of the Religion teacher and Church higher than a new teach, even if I could add gay content through the teach).

Edit: also, I will say it doesn't quite read as being full on judgemental, but rather due to the stereotype surrounding gay men, along with execution of literally every other character's blackmail/corruption it feels different. Like there was an unconscious biases that got through and no one noticed or at least didn't speak up about. And not necessarily deliberately homophobic, as practically everyone in this thread has said, we have content we just can't write. It just means it's better to bring someone in who can write it and be conscious of these stereotypes as at least a proofreader. His sex scene was literally just a basic blowjob, yet in so many 18+ gay porn stories it frequently is more than just that, so it probably was someone at least somewhat outside their comfort zone writing.  Best way my nerd brain can think of it is the animation of Genshin Impact's boobs...aka something you can tell was not made by someone with personal experience with them. Not exactly meaning they are a bad person or animator(or in this case writer) just should've had someone helping them and going "this is a bit too far".

Honestly we are so utterly strapped for manpower that you probably don't need much vetting. I myself am a very new community member and was basically accepted with open arms. So you should feel basically free to join the Discord and go "hey I wanna do this and this, can I have the writer role?" or whatever. You're also much likelier to get timely responses both from me and the guys in charge.

And yeah, wrt Carl, I definitely get where you are coming from- as said above, now is a great opportunity to fix him up some and make him less of a walking boogieman. Also, on the church thing, I must say that it's both content that likely needs a straight side of things and would be a rather substantial undertaking, so I say don't feel too pressured to do it immediately. You can work on whatever you want.

Masked

#9
Eh, I don't mind working on straight content...until it requires sex, just have a hard line mentally for straight sex content that I'm unable to overcome. And with it being the church, as long as someone could/would be willing to take the baton for writing the sex scenes with that honestly being late-corruption most likely. It also would finally make the religious teacher not a giant thorn in the side if you hire her in terms of corrupting the school(after all, I think after enough corruption it might be reasonable to argue a change from "Save sex for marriage" to "Save sex for those you love" to "Sex is a gift from god which you shouldn't be ashamed of engaging in".

Edit: Also, while not immediately(health reasons) I would also like to be taught how to use VEE properly. Just would take a month or two before I'd have time and mental energy to do so.

Malorn

Quote from: Masked on Jun 24, 2022, 02:55 PMEh, I don't mind working on straight content...until it requires sex, just have a hard line mentally for straight sex content that I'm unable to overcome. And with it being the church, as long as someone could/would be willing to take the baton for writing the sex scenes with that honestly being late-corruption most likely. It also would finally make the religious teacher not a giant thorn in the side if you hire her in terms of corrupting the school(after all, I think after enough corruption it might be reasonable to argue a change from "Save sex for marriage" to "Save sex for those you love" to "Sex is a gift from god which you shouldn't be ashamed of engaging in".

Edit: Also, while not immediately(health reasons) I would also like to be taught how to use VEE properly. Just would take a month or two before I'd have time and mental energy to do so.

Nah, I totally get it. I can't write gay content for the exact same reason, my brain just can't do it. People shouldn't have to write what they can't connect with.

As far as the Carl thing, as I mentioned to Ame, we aren't really attached to him being a complete bastard, just that he is meant to be a bit creepy. I wouldn't want to try turning him into a saint, but I have no problem with toning it down to be compatible with some of the other darker characters. (Though again I would mention, he's pretty clearly bisexual, so it's not really about him being gay, just generically predatory.)

I really think that with now two people looking toward the yaoi side of sides, adding a new teacher as a fully gay character might be a really good idea after you guys find your bearings. And it would allow for more balanced representation of personalities and goals across sexuality.

punkboi724

Some thoughts:

  • A student recognizes the Principal in the park and, depending on corruption of the student/town, could start making out with the Principal on his lap on a bench.  Likely starting out by trying to play it innocent (unconvincingly).  Possible oral or anal to follow on the bench.
  • Principal decides to step into confession booth (if it's Catholic, back room if not, or pick and choose, not my business if a fictional Protestant church has confession) for some fun, either with the Priest or a churchgoer.
  • Fucking in a gym shower.
  • Concerned parent comes to Principal to counsel their gay son to "being normal", allowing the Principal to either encourage the boy to be himself, spinelessly comply with the parents' wishes, or pull the student into a spiral of ever growing perversion.  Possibly ultimately culminating in the boy seducing his own father.  Or just fuck him and call it good.
  • Date including a handjob under diner table.
  • Spying allows the Principal to learn a pair of students are messing around, but one of them has a popular girlfriend as well.  Allows Principal to manipulate the situation towards either a healthier outcome, or start fucking one or two or all of the parties, or blackmail the cheater.

I don't know how healthy all of these are as far as representation, but since it's a porn game that includes all sorts of crimes in the real world, I'm going to reason that this isn't a place to particularly worry about representation.  Regardless, those scenarios would be hot to me.

PhantomBull

Quote from: punkboi724 on Jun 29, 2022, 06:39 AMI don't know how healthy all of these are as far as representation, but since it's a porn game that includes all sorts of crimes in the real world, I'm going to reason that this isn't a place to particularly worry about representation.  Regardless, those scenarios would be hot to me.
The suggested ideas don't need to be a positive representation of any kind, this is a corruption game after all. As long as they're at the correct part of the school/city corruption path anything that doesn't go against the rules can be welcomed. If we'd care about how politically correct somehting is or about how positive it is we wouldn't have a chain in which we drug the police against their will to become sluts ;)

RedRedReady

#13
Shimakaze

Crossdressing isn't really my thing but it's in kind of a weird spot where it's massively under-represented in general events (I don't think it appears at all) and over-represented in the character chains, 3 out of the 4 yaoi chains feature it, 2 quite prominently.

To help balance things out a bit more, I wonder if it might be worth adding a crossdressing club as part of Shimakaze's chain. That could provide an opt-in for crossdressing events around the school/town.

Andy

I always thought Andy was written to be very one dimensional. His love for the player is the only aspect to his personality right now so he could really use something else: a flaw, an interest, a friend besides you; something to give him a bit more depth and make his relationship with you a bit more dynamic so he does something besides fawn over you all the time.

I'd also remove the crossdressing from core Andy. If people are really attached to it, I'd suggest making it a smaller part of the character that you can opt into through encouraging him to join the crossdressing club once it unlocks. Andy is the primary, male, incest kink character so I think that should be his main role rather than also being a second trap character. AFAIK his current crossdressing content doesn't go anywhere anyway.

I did have an idea for an outwardly, straight/bi brother character that's cheerful and friendly but also lazy and used to charming people into getting what he wants. He generally doesn't think to pick up after himself or help you out and basically thinks you're too up tight and don't now how to have fun. The kind of person that leaves a mess around the house (pretext to find his sex toys around the house), uses all the hot water (long showers = opportunity to spy) and makes too much noise (come home to loud sex between him and his girlfriend/boyfriend). Someone who's generally likeable but flawed enough to take revenge on. The corruption chain could start either as you teaching him to be more considerate (dom path) or him trying to get you to loosen up a little(seduction path). I don't know if this is too different from current Andy or if it would be better as a third sibling choice.
 
Carl Walker

Regarding Carl Walker, what if his corruption came through the fitness studio rather than the school? He starts as good sports teacher so what if he worked as a personal trainer on the weekends and you either catch him getting a little too close to his clients or you become one of them and use the opportunity to make a move on him? I'd like to see the wrestling club get some expansion too

Peter Hooter

Peter is the only one of the 4 characters with yaoi content to be anything like finished. He could do with a few followup yaoi events though once he's fully corrupted. Maybe he could volunteer as a lifeguard at the beach on weekends?

Other Content
I don't have any specific ideas but the hospital and onsen seem pretty devoid of content in general so those could be good areas for expansion. Someone else suggested corrupting the priest and that sounds like it could be interesting too.

Shilo

Quote from: RedRedReady on Jul 23, 2022, 07:27 PMTo help balance things out a bit more, I wonder if it might be worth adding a crossdressing club as part of Shimakaze's chain. That could provide an opt-in for crossdressing events around the school/town.

Perhaps it could start out as a "Clothes club", i.e. students that simply enjoy sewing, making beautiful clothes, etc. And because clothes are meant to be worn, they also start lending them to other students or wear them themselves.
The principal could also request them to make certain clothes (which could provide an alternative way to get cheerleading uniforms instead of the clothing shop in town) or other clubs like the Cosplay club could borrow outfits as well.