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[HHS+ 1.10.6] Official Release Discussion Thread

Started by barteke22, May 27, 2022, 11:41 PM

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Quote from: Albatross on Sep 23, 2022, 03:43 AMAs for Ronda IMO that's also a weird choice, since it kinda punishes the player for keeping the event active(Samantha for example can keep her office visits without the HasQuest marker) and it also doesn't make too much sense to have it there from a story perspective since it limits her corruption when you're actively blackmailing her which should have the opposite effect.

I do agree it's a bit inconsistent that it doesn't clear HasQuest once it's in trivial-repeat mode, compared to other such series.

I think no longer delivering new corruption is reasonable here because to hit that, she's already quite corrupt (>50) so she's not really being blackmailed at this point, it's consensual roleplay. And she was pretty much always "into it" in the chain, from my recollection of the text; the chian progress reads like lowering inhibition rather than raising corruption, I think. But I'd have to have a closer look at the current corruption definition and the text to be sure about that last thought.

Perhaps it should reward some other statistic for repeats after "fully corrupted" (loyalty? increase an appropriate fetish value, now they are scalars? reduce inhibition?) and clear HasQuest there. That's basically how Beth's chain works at the same stage too. If considering that change, I'd also change it so that rather than enabling "Let her off the hook" once she's fully-corrupted, that option is no longer possible, even if you are busy multiple times. Again, this is how Beth's chain ends, you forever have the option to run the repeating event each time the circumstances are met, with no penalty for opting out, and a small stat reward for opting in.

I haven't run thought Sam Keller's chain in the current release, but it sounds like it also works like Beth's, not like Ronda's.

Albatross

Nah for Samantha the repeatable visits don't lock her I'm pretty sure(At least in my current save).

But yeah removing the HasQuest and adding different stats for Ronda's visits sounds like a good idea to me.

pwnz

How progress Annette after first blackmailing? Nothing happening

⚧ Squark

Quote from: pwnz on Sep 25, 2022, 09:43 AMHow progress Annette after first blackmailing? Nothing happening
It'll happen. Just poke your head into her room around 10/11PM. If there's an event scheduled, it'll activate.

Zaiaku

So quick question: Is the Raymund family corruption chain started just like every other Teacher/PTA member or does it have another trigger? And yes, I am aware that it was just started and can't be completed, but would still like to know.
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dcsobral

Quote from: Zaiaku on Oct 04, 2022, 11:38 PMSo quick question: Is the Raymund family corruption chain started just like every other Teacher/PTA member or does it have another trigger? And yes, I am aware that it was just started and can't be completed, but would still like to know.
I got it started by going into the teacher's room. I had no idea that would start the quest, I just wanted to drop some magazines there. I don't recall if it was in between classes or during classes, but I think it was the latter.

Dzeris

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If Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.

Quote from: Zaiaku on Oct 04, 2022, 11:38 PMSo quick question: Is the Raymund family corruption chain started just like every other Teacher/PTA member or does it have another trigger? And yes, I am aware that it was just started and can't be completed, but would still like to know.
Event chain starts from hiring April and finding her phone in teacher's room. Open Debug and check comments in global variables, if you want spoiler for future events.

barteke22Topic starter

Quote from: Dzeris on Oct 09, 2022, 12:08 PMIf Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.

It's just one event, in a location where most of the students go every day, so please calm down.  The sex shop one was changed from the 0.07% chance it used to be to a good 5-10% per day - and it's not even an important event.

grey_shadow

Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 09, 2022, 01:07 PM
Quote from: Dzeris on Oct 09, 2022, 12:08 PMIf Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.

It's just one event, in a location where most of the students go every day, so please calm down.  The sex shop one was changed from the 0.07% chance it used to be to a good 5-10% per day - and it's not even an important event.

So you could need to spend three in-game weeks or longer of visiting the sex shop frequently to get the sex shop event to happen? I suppose it's an improvement on almost four in-game years, but it's still not great for something that's tracked in your quest log...

barteke22Topic starter

You could maybe, though from testing it usually takes me a day or two per part.

And I had to test that event like a hundred times because of a false bug report.

It's a dead end chain that was supposed to be an Easter egg, hasn't changed in 5+ years and might one day be deprecated if nobody picks it up.

If everything was set to 100% chance the game would actually be unplayable.

Dzeris

Quote from: grey_shadow on Oct 10, 2022, 12:50 AM
Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 09, 2022, 01:07 PM
Quote from: Dzeris on Oct 09, 2022, 12:08 PMIf Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.

It's just one event, in a location where most of the students go every day, so please calm down.  The sex shop one was changed from the 0.07% chance it used to be to a good 5-10% per day - and it's not even an important event.

So you could need to spend three in-game weeks or longer of visiting the sex shop frequently to get the sex shop event to happen? I suppose it's an improvement on almost four in-game years, but it's still not great for something that's tracked in your quest log...
Sex shop reference is for Claire Fuzuchi chain. Cafeteria and Shopping Mall are for Sherilyn Ambrose and technically quest hints only at 12 hour window on Saturday for randomly burning game time.

Masked

Quote from: Dzeris on Oct 09, 2022, 12:08 PMIf Sherilyn Ambrose and Sarah Lovegood events are tidied to two randomly moving NPCs being in same location with principal, you are creating save scumming and frustrating questline in the game. Getting one teacher in sex shop at random time was bad enough.

Event chain starts from hiring April and finding her phone in teacher's room. Open Debug and check comments in global variables, if you want spoiler for future events.

Hello, creator of the chain here and going forward any event checking is going to be for only one of the potential characters needed, the other one not currently there will be forcibly dragged there for the event. I think that event should be set up like that, but if it isn't my apologies. I realize getting the A.I. to cooperate isn't easy but I want to set up for multiple characters chains and Sherilyn is the vector to getting you to 'notice' those specific students.

Dzeris

Annette at Inhibition level 0 probably should not trigger random events in Principal's home, where she is getting flustered and red.

barteke22Topic starter

I think those are her 'period' events.  She's probably the only NPC that makes use of the period tracking.

kenshuck

Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 14, 2022, 02:28 PMI think those are her 'period' events.  She's probably the only NPC that makes use of the period tracking.
Oh, that gives some ideas, for some pretty chaotic memes/events 🤣🤣
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