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Started by V, May 16, 2022, 12:40 AM

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VTopic starter

Hey,
I wanted to write a suggestion or two, but I didn't think the other topics were appropriate, so I hope it's alright to open this thread.

Anyway, I think it'd be nice to tone down certain events, or make sure they can't happen too often. I had two brawler events within a few days and it totally wrecked my playthrough, one of my girls got hurt for over 20 days, the place got +200 dirt (+100 for each event) and I couldn't help it. Instant cleaning was way too expensive, cleaning personnel was way too slow and my girls kept getting hurt/sick so I went bankrupt... So, maybe this part of the game could use some rebalancing?

Thanks

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Leortha

Are you keeping a lot of cash on hand?  Because the threat level is directly connected to the amount of cash you have.  It's also inverse to the amount of security goons you have.   So two ways to reduce the likelihood of raids like that is getting rid of the cash and increasing the amount of security that you have.
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VTopic starter

Hi!
No, not at all... I had less than 500 cash for sure. Had 2-3 goons hired.

I was completely baffled tbh, as I simply couldn't even clean the place and things went downhill real fast.

In fact, brothel costs went up after moving to the docks, so I struggled to make money at all.

Netscape1964

never had that happen to me even with 3k+ in the bank at end of 1st chapter

vadi92

Im doing it like this: i hire 5~6 goons raise the advertising up to the max number what the girl can handle and raise the cleaners up to 4 (it's enough for the whole chapter1). It will only cost me about 20 gold/day.

Netscape1964

i try to be as selfsufficient as possible with my girls. only hire when girls aren't enough any more

Goldo

Don't know if you are the same person, but there was one such feedback on F95.

One idea which could mitigate the problem somewhat would be to allow the player to 'partially clean' the brothel to the extent of his finances (basically spending his entire balance and cleaning proportionally to gold spent). Still a risky move, but better than spiraling into bankruptcy.
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Vaan

Hello,

I actually wanted to say that i enjoy all the fighting events, including the brawling ones. Wanted to add a suggestion about adding more of those in the future, i love the new siege system, it's a shame that i have to leave my brothel unguarded for it to receive attacks more often. Was wondering if there will be move fighting events in the future and will those include the girls too? Will be amazing to put in use all the weapons i buy for them. I enjoy your game so much that i decided to try and learn how to create events myself, i'm not good at coding, but will see what happens when i have some free time. I understand that having a brothel is the main aspect of the game, but would enjoy to have more things to do outside of that and include the girls in those. Not sure if the holiday\birthday events are part of the new update or some of the the mods i added, but i really like those too! I had a suggestion on the old forum about tagging photos, so that some only appear when your MC is in them, to kind of give him a sense of uniqueness, instead of using the same images for customers and MC. I wasn't able to achieve that sadly, it's way too hard for me to do, at least for now! In any case, thanks for continuing to support the game and adding new things to it, Goldo!

alphanineteen

Small suggestion:

Make the /game/default images folder dynamic, like a regular girlpack. Making it easy to replace the images it contain.
(If no suitable image is found in girlpack -> Look in /game/default/ for a suitable image. If none found -> show the "No suitable image found" error message.)

But really I should just complete my default images replacement project and upload it for the developers to implement at their own leisure. Would any developer even be interested in this?

Goldo

Quote from: Vaan on May 23, 2022, 05:14 PMI had a suggestion on the old forum about tagging photos, so that some only appear when your MC is in them, to kind of give him a sense of uniqueness, instead of using the same images for customers and MC. I wasn't able to achieve that sadly, it's way too hard for me to do, at least for now! In any case, thanks for continuing to support the game and adding new things to it, Goldo!

Well, you'd have to define what "your MC" looks like compared to other males and I'm afraid that's a very difficult proposition. I guess what you mean is to exclude pics that have a male protagonist that looks very distinctive, such as a very fat one or one whose face is shown...

As to how to implement it, you'd need to add a new tag to the tag dictionary in BKsettings.rpy (such as "main"), and add the necessary game logic in training events so that MC-only pictures are fetched (mostly by adding your new tag to the 'and_tags' argument list) and in customer events to exclude those pictures (by adding your new tag to the 'not_tags' argument list).

But this is not really where the most work lies. The most work is re-tagging all of your girl packs with this new logic. That's going to be extremely time-consuming I think, but do-able of course.

Quote from: alphanineteen on May 24, 2022, 12:05 PMSmall suggestion:

Make the /game/default images folder dynamic, like a regular girlpack. Making it easy to replace the images it contain.
(If no suitable image is found in girlpack -> Look in /game/default/ for a suitable image. If none found -> show the "No suitable image found" error message.)

But really I should just complete my default images replacement project and upload it for the developers to implement at their own leisure. Would any developer even be interested in this?

Well, there is really only one developer but yes, I'm interested in your default replacement project - although I remember other people were working on that so you might want to merge your efforts with them (sadly, with the loss of the old forum I don't remember who it was).

I'm not sure what you mean by making the default folder dynamic. AFAIK, it is already dynamic, i.e. you can add new pictures with the right tags and they will be used.
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Yasaki74

I got a suggestion, that allow you to replaced Sill with your Waifu, trust me this is gonna be really good for main game story
- Replaced your Sill with your Waifu, making your slave as a trainer

- Change the trainer to a marriage system, it will act the same as trainer but the slaves will be train according to which trait does your married Waifu have. (You can marry how many you want or marry one and make the others your concubine)

- Add in tier like there should be 3 tier in the game
+ Tier 1: Married: their upkeep is still 125%/150% you can choose which gold trait they can have and that gold trait will not affect the upkeep

+ Tier 2: Hired: their upkeep is at 100% you can choose which positive trait that they can have that positive trait will not affect the upkeep

+ Tier 3: Slaves: their upkeep is at 50%/75% (or none depends how you want to configure the game) you can remove 1 or 2 bad traits that will not affect the upkeep

- Tier 1,2,3 can be bought/get by hiring them from the street/store or buy them from a slave market.

- Add a new job where your slaves/hired can be use as a guard rather than renting out bodyguards for you or your brothel. (pretty much by adding +(number)attack/defense/magic
Hopefully these feature can make it into the game and if you want more, I got a lot of stuff in mind. These are just some quality changes for the player experiences


SK

An idea for a new brothel room you can construct.  An Office room, works similar to the Master Room, that gives you free react actions every day.  At night you call your women to your bedroom for training/magic, in the morning for chat/react.  Gives you more time to get to know your women and be good/evil without sacrificing the important daily actions.

Maybe even add some craftables with it.  Things like a hammock and comfy chair to buff positive interactions, a paddle or handcuffs for negative interactions.  Maybe even enable unique reactions based on things built, something like a massage table (good) or a gag (evil).  Dunno what to make to buff chat options.

Goldo

Hi guys,

Thank you for your suggestions. Some questions/issues I had reading them:

Quote from: Yasaki74 on Aug 01, 2022, 11:57 AMI got a suggestion, that allow you to replaced Sill with your Waifu, trust me this is gonna be really good for main game story
- Replaced your Sill with your Waifu, making your slave as a trainer
The main issue here (besides re-coding a fair chunk of the game) is that Sill is quite important to the story. Still, this could be something to look at for the no-story mode.

Quote- Change the trainer to a marriage system, it will act the same as trainer but the slaves will be train according to which trait does your married Waifu have. (You can marry how many you want or marry one and make the others your concubine)
The trainer system works very differently from your proposal, though, so I'm not sure what you mean by 'act the same as trainer'?

Quote- Add in tier like there should be 3 tier in the game
+ Tier 1: Married: their upkeep is still 125%/150% you can choose which gold trait they can have and that gold trait will not affect the upkeep

+ Tier 2: Hired: their upkeep is at 100% you can choose which positive trait that they can have that positive trait will not affect the upkeep

+ Tier 3: Slaves: their upkeep is at 50%/75% (or none depends how you want to configure the game) you can remove 1 or 2 bad traits that will not affect the upkeep
The issue here is that 'traits' is a reflection of a girl's background and natural abilities. She's not suddenly going to develop big boobs or pretty eyes or magic skills just because you married or hired her.

Quote- Add a new job where your slaves/hired can be use as a guard rather than renting out bodyguards for you or your brothel. (pretty much by adding +(number)attack/defense/magic
I've discussed a version of this idea here. I think this is separate from your other suggestions and would benefit from being implemented in the way I suggested (because it would open the door to 'mini girlpacks').

Quote from: SK on Aug 02, 2022, 10:53 PMAn idea for a new brothel room you can construct.  An Office room, works similar to the Master Room, that gives you free react actions every day.  At night you call your women to your bedroom for training/magic, in the morning for chat/react.  Gives you more time to get to know your women and be good/evil without sacrificing the important daily actions.
I understand the idea, but I wonder if that wouldn't disrupt the game flow too much (I already find the Master bedroom kind of intrusive). The main problem is that 'react' interactions have built-in diminishing returns: if you praise or punish a girl several times in a row, it stops working. So this feature would require the player to swap girls in and out of the Office on a daily basis. It then becomes as much if not more micro than interacting with the girl manually.

Still, if I try to get to the core of your concern, it seems to me your underlying problem is that AP are expensive and you'd rather be spending them on something else. We could then imagine an Office building or some piece of furniture that would grant you X free chatting actions every day.

This would relieve the AP problem without introducing all the overhead of the above solution.
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Yasaki74

#13
Then here's some other suggestions that could work:

1. Changing the Girl interaction(updated)
-Encourage: To date/hangout with your slave

-Discipline: Fix the rape option where some slaves likes to be raped by their own master (with enough love ofc)

-Adding a new type "Active" in React:
+ Make her act as your alarm clock where she can do either service, sex, anal, or fetish based on her sex act Preferance
-> Naked and Bisexual won't show up but Group can show only if there are 2 girls or more in your room to have like an orgy morning.
+ In Chat>Personal topics or General topics
-> Add option to make friendly acts towards specific slaves
-> Add option to help slaves with secrets, requesting some secrets about a specific slave or  striking a deal with your slave where'll they be more loyal if you do them a favor

2. Interactive while working and management
-Add the option to interfere with your slaves (like the one in Ashford Academy where you move around the school and see events of the students around you) some mini events are great but I sometime feel a bit lack luster day after day while seeing my slaves work hoping for a mini event came up.

-What I mean by management is that where you can restart from the beginning and make a new buisness where you earn more income than managing 1 and you can open multiple buisnesses. (could lag the game for sure, but my storage is a m.2 so I couldn't care about lagging that much)

3. Upgrades in brothel
-Upgrades your security rather than spending more money to hire more people (like cameras, better fences, a safe, traps, etc....)
-More jobs where your slaves can work as a barmaid, assisstant (must be at your side where ever you go and can have up to 3 girls which where they'll be staying in your bed rather than training them), allow upgrades dancers into strippers, etc....

4. removed (thanks for the info neronero)

5. Fixing the tier systems
-remove the tier systems and copy the mechanic like the one in school games made by Sloths, ofc in order to progress your relationship, you should at least know them for like 15 days or more which could improve your relationship capacity with your slaves further, ofc Yandere traits are different and aren't affected by this system, don't know if you're into Yandere tho.

If you want any more or better suggestion I'll be happy to reply
Don't worry I read your replies and I understand them, hopefully these could help you in anyway
Thanks for reading! VwV

neronero

Quote from: Yasaki74 on Jan 11, 2023, 07:44 PM-This could also help you know which slave are trying to escape you, plotting or anything dangerous situation which could help new players.
Latching on to this one - currently the game tells you that a girl "is grumbling about running away", but we could also start writing dialogue lines for this.

It could be part of a larger collection of "mini-events": Small comments from your girls that add some flavor while also hammering home some useful information, very limited in scope (no direct interaction with MC, mini-events are small glimpses you happen to catch as you pass by & over within 2-5 lines):

- Grumbling about running away
- Grumbling about becoming tired
- Interactions with friends and rivals (see friends and foes)
- Wondering about another girl that has escaped and still hasn't come back
- Worrying/complaining/gossiping that another girl got hurt or exhausted
- Idle chit-chat about the effects of an active moon
- Idle chit-chat commenting on another girl's traits (suggesting which jobs might suit her? only if she's still low rank?)
- Complaining that she wants a dress if the player still hasn't equipped one on her after X days in the brothel
- Complaining that the brothel is dirty
- Complaining that threat level is high
- Worrying about the brothel being in debt
- ? ? ?
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