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[HHS+] Smallville Scenario: Event contribution

Started by barteke22, Jun 02, 2022, 05:56 PM

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barteke22Topic starter

Long story short:  We're currently a 'tad' short staffed on the event side, as we lost contact with the event dev team along with the old site.

Therefore I'd like to request assistance from anyone who'd like to contribute to the game's development.  Mostly by contributing text for unfinished story chains, or events if they feel adventurous enough.

There's also another way to contribute open to everyone - intel gathering.  Gather whatever info you can, about pretty much anything that can be considered unfinished.  Gathering enough info will help both those that wish to contribute text, and well - everyone.

Most of the devs rose from the community, and while yes, there's a lot of unfinished stuff, there's also... a lot of stuff...  My grasp of the game's content is a few years behind, and even then there was plenty of stuff I didn't know.  Contribute what you can to the 'info database', however do try to at least make sure the info is somewhat up to date 😛


Info for those that wish to contribute text. Please check it first (see 'Event Contribution' section on the left).

Info Database everyone can contribute to. I've only added info I could find so far, will expand further when I got the time.

You can state your willingness to help in #event-contrib-chat at the discord, or here, or just try things out and share them if it works out :P

Albatross

I can maybe give it a shot. For characters that have a specific VN origin(Jenny as an example), how close would the images have to be? Because if we stick to only the original sources it will limit it quite a bit.

barteke22Topic starter

Probably no point in aiming for 100% accuracy, can at least try similar hair colour + style.  So long as it's not the levels of uh... Daisy?  and Deborah I think?  who use images that look nothing like them.  I got a replacement for the Deborah event somewhere.

If you check the info database, I've added 'close enough' sources to most of the characters.

I've also got a small collection of images on my end, but it's mostly fem/futa principal, and specific characters that weren't hard to find matches.  Will share that at some point when I get the time.

Donkdn

I created an event for continuing the cooking club chain, since I wanted to contribute a bit.

I haven't finished writing all the dialogue and the formatting needs some work, but I wanted to post it to find out if the idea is acceptable. I also would like to find out what needs improvement.

If my idea seems good enough, I will finish the rest of the event...

OutOfUniqueNames

You guys didn't lose the latest dev build with the forum loss did you? Is there any event adds we need to be aware of that are in the dev-only build? The locations that could really use events are probably Park and Lake for student events and probably Red Corner for the general population that aren't Students.

barteke22Topic starter

Quote from: Donkdn on Jun 05, 2022, 02:06 PMIf my idea seems good enough, I will finish the rest of the event...

Will examine properly when I get the time, need to kill some bugs first :)

Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 06, 2022, 09:35 PMYou guys didn't lose the latest dev build with the forum loss did you? Is there any event adds we need to be aware of that are in the dev-only build? The locations that could really use events are probably Park and Lake for student events and probably Red Corner for the general population that aren't Students.

The current release is what was committed internally, it's possible dragonblood/DasBrain had something on their end, but they were mostly busy IRL for the month before site loss (so unlikely), and Malorn had committed all their stuff like a week or two before.  And since none of them have found us yet, we'll have to assume this is it.  At least every event I've looked into so far while fixing bugs, has been changed since 1.9.5 (either fully reworked for generic stuff, or marked with comments on what's dated for later for more specific stuff).

Albatross

Where would I find the current events in text?

barteke22Topic starter

The whole events, along with their text are in their VEE files.  The easiest way to track those down is to use Notepad++ to find specific text, or NPC name.  Then open them in VEE (in Development tab).  Otherwise you can ask for specific ones.

Ame

Hello! I'm relatively new to the community, but given I have plenty of informal writing experience (of many kinds) I would love to contribute! However there's a bit of an issue, in that when it comes to sexual content I am highly specialized in m/m or "yaoi" content- I'm not *opposed* to writing about girls, mind you, but it would probably come out as lower quality than me writing general story or about guys. So, with that in mind, think there's a place for me to help?

squark

Quote from: Ame on Jun 16, 2022, 04:21 PMHello! I'm relatively new to the community, but given I have plenty of informal writing experience (of many kinds) I would love to contribute! However there's a bit of an issue, in that when it comes to sexual content I am highly specialized in m/m or "yaoi" content- I'm not *opposed* to writing about girls, mind you, but it would probably come out as lower quality than me writing general story or about guys. So, with that in mind, think there's a place for me to help?
I'd say so. The game is pretty sparse when it comes to Yaoi content right now.

Ame

Quote from: squark on Jun 16, 2022, 06:31 PM
Quote from: Ame on Jun 16, 2022, 04:21 PMHello! I'm relatively new to the community, but given I have plenty of informal writing experience (of many kinds) I would love to contribute! However there's a bit of an issue, in that when it comes to sexual content I am highly specialized in m/m or "yaoi" content- I'm not *opposed* to writing about girls, mind you, but it would probably come out as lower quality than me writing general story or about guys. So, with that in mind, think there's a place for me to help?
I'd say so. The game is pretty sparse when it comes to Yaoi content right now.

That's true, and if it wouldn't take away too much manpower from the coding side of things I would love to help with expanding that.

xXxAnon515xXx

Quote from: Ame on Jun 16, 2022, 04:21 PMHello! I'm relatively new to the community, but given I have plenty of informal writing experience (of many kinds) I would love to contribute! However there's a bit of an issue, in that when it comes to sexual content I am highly specialized in m/m or "yaoi" content- I'm not *opposed* to writing about girls, mind you, but it would probably come out as lower quality than me writing general story or about guys. So, with that in mind, think there's a place for me to help?

Wold LOVE more yaoi content too, specially non-bara as it is 70% of the little we already have T_T (i prefer traps personally but any yaoi is great really)

barteke22Topic starter

You're free to do whatever themes you want so long as it's not the 3 we're too scared to host (lolly/shoda/beastie - and those are likely still welcome on a certain other forum).
When involving any more niche fetishes (like urination) it's best to either give a choice, or cut it based on blacklist/provide some alternative.

If I recall right there's 3 yaoi-ish characters if you're looking to complete unfinished stuff (people that started them have been long gone).  There's some info in the database, but the gist is:

- Carl Walker: If I got it right he's into everything, but mostly leaning towards yaoi (students). His chain is kinda complete, but side story with wrestling club is a stub (ends at choice of all boys' (grecko) vs any gender (mud)), I think there might be some unfinished skeleton events, but overall it's so unfinished it could be redone from start.

- Lucas Hudson (Shimakaze): Crossdresser chain that ends when you start to train him to become a yaoi fucktoy, has some very unimplemented events after (no text, old logic).

- Andy: PC's brother, mainly a trap - he's into PC no matter the gender. You can allow him to dress as a trap or not, idk much about this chain as I didn't know half of those events even existed.

Ame

Quote from: barteke22 on Jun 16, 2022, 10:17 PMYou're free to do whatever themes you want so long as it's not the 3 we're too scared to host (lolly/shoda/beastie - and those are likely still welcome on a certain other forum).
When involving any more niche fetishes (like urination) it's best to either give a choice, or cut it based on blacklist/provide some alternative.

If I recall right there's 3 yaoi-ish characters if you're looking to complete unfinished stuff (people that started them have been long gone).  There's some info in the database, but the gist is:

- Carl Walker: If I got it right he's into everything, but mostly leaning towards yaoi (students). His chain is kinda complete, but side story with wrestling club is a stub (ends at choice of all boys' (grecko) vs any gender (mud)), I think there might be some unfinished skeleton events, but overall it's so unfinished it could be redone from start.

- Lucas Hudson (Shimakaze): Crossdresser chain that ends when you start to train him to become a yaoi fucktoy, has some very unimplemented events after (no text, old logic).

- Andy: PC's brother, mainly a trap - he's into PC no matter the gender. You can allow him to dress as a trap or not, idk much about this chain as I didn't know half of those events even existed.

Ι *have* sort of looked into all three of these characters so I'm rather aware of how they work. If I do this then I'd prioritize drafting complete chains for these three incomplete characters, improving the general experience for yaoi fans (in that there's far more generic events and interactions for girls than boys, which I'd like to see changed) and after that creating completely new storylines. I'm not sure, but if somebody showed me the ropes I might even be able to work the event thing after some time.

And no worries, I have absolutely no intention of dabbling in legally contentious content. So yeah, if this sounds good to you I'd love to join. I can help out with general writing work too if needed.

Quote from: xXxAnon515xXx on Jun 16, 2022, 08:20 PM
Quote from: Ame on Jun 16, 2022, 04:21 PMHello! I'm relatively new to the community, but given I have plenty of informal writing experience (of many kinds) I would love to contribute! However there's a bit of an issue, in that when it comes to sexual content I am highly specialized in m/m or "yaoi" content- I'm not *opposed* to writing about girls, mind you, but it would probably come out as lower quality than me writing general story or about guys. So, with that in mind, think there's a place for me to help?

Wold LOVE more yaoi content too, specially non-bara as it is 70% of the little we already have T_T (i prefer traps personally but any yaoi is great really)

Lucky you, I've got plenty of experience writing about all sorts of guys. I'd gladly diversify this aspect of the game.

barteke22Topic starter

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If you want to try out VEE there's a link to both the text contribution info and some general guides for it in the guides link below (and the one at the top).

While the guides might look like a lot, they're mostly about quality of life stuff and tips, plus details. It boils down to connecting boxes on a canvas to form a chain of stuff you want to happen (conditions > show image/NPC > show text etc > apply stats > pass time).

I won't expect beginners to provide perfectly structured events obviously (especially if you don't know much about simple programming logic).  But it would definitely be a helpful start to have the events in the right folders, and with some basic flow.  Either way, add comments about what you want to actually happen, so it can be verified and fixed/improved/implemented.

For generic events (not story chains) there's now also more streamlined condition Functions (under FunctionLibrary\GeneralEvents) - so there's better flow and less RNG/fighting to things.  Basically if an events's Try is filled with random conditions and nothing from that folder, it's likely not a good example to follow for generic stuff (outdated logic).