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Kisekae layer cutter update for v105

Started by chssmstr23, Oct 06, 2022, 03:06 AM

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chssmstr23Topic starter

Hey all,

i was looking at updating the layer cutter to work with the updated Kisekae automation server that was introduced in later versions.

I adapted the SPNatI script (https://spnati.net) that I attached along with a list of commands that i used to produce the new image. I also attached one from the current layer cutter for comparison

to set this up you need
python 3 (im using 3.8.4 i will test with newer https://www.python.org/downloads/)

the offline version of kisekae ver 105 (im linking the SPNatI repo since i cant seem to find another version https://gitgud.io/spnati/spnati/-/tree/master/tools/kkl)

in order to run this
youll open KKL
load the base model to get the stage set
load an outfit
set the head to invisible
take the picture for the outfit

the next moves is using the existing script that breaks down the names of the files and extensions to call the python script to process everything OR setup the php script to do the same stuff the python script is doing.

ill probably be back on nightly to check replys

barteke22

The python script seems to be able to hide parts, so I assume it's also able to toggle other states such as poses, colours and bodysizes (like our cutter)?

Our cutter was using a wrapper for the kkl.exe, so Kisekae itself would output screenshots to the right folder for the php to process.  I think theirs was doing something similar long ago since both originated from the cutter WhiteSheepDog took over at some point afaik.

The next step after would be manually deleting 20k parts to make the layered version xD

chssmstr23Topic starter

Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 07, 2022, 03:03 PMOur cutter was using a wrapper for the kkl.exe, so Kisekae itself would output screenshots to the right folder for the php to process.  I think theirs was doing something similar long ago since both originated from the cutter WhiteSheepDog took over at some point afaik.

Ok wait... So this made me think about all of this and check the history on the spnati git history to confirm something... I didn't realize that these were custom made KKL programs. I thought they were newer updates and the programmer just did away with wrapper system for some reason and introduced a network based system....

so uhh now that i have egg on my face lets get to the root of why i started looking at this which is there are different clothing available in the spnati version because im guessing it's using a newer underlying system. Is there an easy way of updating the cutter here for that clothing or is a whole can of worms that there's been custom culling done to the code and outfits?

barteke22

#3
The original Kisekae changed to adobe AIR after flashplayer died - it's available here (needs AIR) https://pochikou.fanbox.cc/posts/1594746
It requires an online connection for some stuff + contains ads.

WhiteSheepDog is the one that remade/maintained the cutter we use (made by another member before) - which was a modified version of Kisekae combined with php. Its update process involved extracting flash player resources from the browser.  WhiteSheepDog has been gone for a few years, and noone here really knows how to update it. I've tried, but I've only managed to add support for some other features I wanted.

I've not been following SPNAti that close, I just know theirs is kept up to date, but uses a completely different system (python or c# based?).  Not fully sure if their is based on the same cutter (might've been at some point), or if they did it from scratch from clean source code.  Not sure if their export codes are even compatible with ours, though that isn't that important.  Maybe it's possible to tweak theirs to work for our purposes, but it would probably be nice to ask if they're fine with that first etc.

Plus the crappy multi-layer support we got would be more useful for a future PD system than the few pocket shapes that came with the new versions.  It's not hard to redo, but tedious (manually replacing 20k swf parts with blank ones).

If you want to experiment with this stuff, feel free to - maybe it'll lead somewhere :D