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[HHS+ 1.10.6] Official Release Discussion Thread

Started by barteke22, May 27, 2022, 11:41 PM

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⚧ Squark

Is there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."

Dzeris

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 03:06 PMIs there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
It teaches that there are other game mechanics for getting phone numbers. Three gift path to friendship was straightforward and simple.

⚧ Squark

#107
Quote from: Dzeris on Feb 12, 2023, 06:38 PM
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 03:06 PMIs there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
It teaches that there are other game mechanics for getting phone numbers. Three gift path to friendship was straightforward and simple.
When you teach someone something, you help them to understand it. This doesn't do that. The presence of "yet" tells me that I just have to ask them at a different time and maybe I'll get something to do. I don't have all the classrooms, clubs and upgrades yet, so that's something to aim for.
To be fair, I did sort of twig that there are other ways of getting phone numbers - otherwise it's a glaring oversight.
Now I have to figure this out.

I don't want spoilers. The vaguest of vague hints are welcome though.

Zaiaku

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 08:51 PM
Quote from: Dzeris on Feb 12, 2023, 06:38 PM
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 03:06 PMIs there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
It teaches that there are other game mechanics for getting phone numbers. Three gift path to friendship was straightforward and simple.
When you teach someone something, you help them to understand it. This doesn't do that. The presence of "yet" tells me that I just have to ask them at a different time and maybe I'll get something to do. I don't have all the classrooms, clubs and upgrades yet, so that's something to aim for.
To be fair, I did sort of twig that there are other ways of getting phone numbers - otherwise it's a glaring oversight.
Now I have to figure this out.

I don't want spoilers. The vaguest of vague hints are welcome though.
If i remember correctly from the changelog, only the foundations were made public. whether or not it was built upon or completed in the internal version is unknown. You're better off just using the reverting mod that's included to change everyone back to the original system. 
Corrupting Students since 2006

Dzeris

#109
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 08:51 PM
Quote from: Dzeris on Feb 12, 2023, 06:38 PM
Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Feb 12, 2023, 03:06 PMIs there any sign of the Sub-Archetype system being completed? I'm getting tired of just about everyone saying
"Thanks, but I don't need anything yet."
It teaches that there are other game mechanics for getting phone numbers. Three gift path to friendship was straightforward and simple.
When you teach someone something, you help them to understand it. This doesn't do that. The presence of "yet" tells me that I just have to ask them at a different time and maybe I'll get something to do. I don't have all the classrooms, clubs and upgrades yet, so that's something to aim for.
To be fair, I did sort of twig that there are other ways of getting phone numbers - otherwise it's a glaring oversight.
Now I have to figure this out.

I don't want spoilers. The vaguest of vague hints are welcome though.
Phone numbers are not locked behind 35+ Friendship. Lower friendship can be compensated with higher relationship/loyalty and lower inhibition (sex works with that). First flirting option can give extra 5-10 friendship points. If your target is staff, get their job title before hiring if possible. If your targets are students, those deviants will have sex with principal in office at any time once school advances. If students are not orphans, asking about parents and their job, gives extra points too.

If your goal is 100 friendship with
* Susan - delay last quest line step as she will give you phone number by that time.
* Rie/Hana/June - they give their phones before advancing to repeating weekend events
* Titsbig - they go over horny phone chat threshold only after first threesome.
* Parker - short window between getting phone number and Saturday train orgy.

Unfinished gift mechanic is still a glaring oversight. Now most nps are only into drinking energy drinks and booze. Most of other gift options are rare.

In current game state main problem is advancing April's and Carl's corruption as they will block school policy upgrades and it takes time for toys and classes to take affect. I got no quests left in school and have to wait for April to collect other 10-15 points to fully upgrade school policies.

Masked

Quote from: Dzeris on Feb 13, 2023, 05:10 AMUnfinished gift mechanic is still a glaring oversight. Now most nps are only into drinking energy drinks and booze. Most of other gift options are rare.

In current game state main problem is advancing April's and Carl's corruption as they will block school policy upgrades and it takes time for toys and classes to take affect. I got no quests left in school and have to wait for April to collect other 10-15 points to fully upgrade school policies.

For the gift mechanic, I would guess it's something being worked on. It just needed pushed out so that content could be worked on again(as in adding to base game).

For Carl and April,

April is being worked on, and Carl's chain is more or less done just needing added to base-game(though that may take a bit since there's like 500 things Barteke is going to be busy adding that I sent in. April is just harder to do as I want her chain and Max's chain to reach a similar/same climax and getting the seperate parts started up is kinda confusing.

storm4n

Version 1.10.4.2
Mods: Pregnancy mod, FindmyPhone, IndicatorsandDifficulty, VisibleSlaveCollar

So it seems that there are no interactions anymore? like how do I raise friendship & relationship if my only options are flirt once a day and ask just once about parents/job/hobbies etc...?

I mean I'm locked in losing dozens of loyalty points by trial and error til I raise my suggestion and hypnosis and force them to kiss me enough times and have sex enough times to give me some sort of relationship bump.

Is this intended?

TBBle

Quote from: storm4n on Feb 28, 2023, 10:42 AMSo it seems that there are no interactions anymore? like how do I raise friendship & relationship if my only options are flirt once a day and ask just once about parents/job/hobbies etc...?

If you're asking about the favour missions going missing, you probably need to activate the bundled Update Mod to reset the archetypes to the old list, so that you get at least three missions per person. That plus 10-20 points from questions (depends on the person) and 70 points for a full set of correct flirts (which also depends on the Update Mode being applied) should bring you to 100 friendship (and 10 relationship) with room to spare, and make the dating and sex interactions available.

storm4n

Quote from: TBBle on Feb 28, 2023, 11:06 AM
Quote from: storm4n on Feb 28, 2023, 10:42 AMSo it seems that there are no interactions anymore? like how do I raise friendship & relationship if my only options are flirt once a day and ask just once about parents/job/hobbies etc...?

If you're asking about the favour missions going missing, you probably need to activate the bundled Update Mod to reset the archetypes to the old list, so that you get at least three missions per person. That plus 10-20 points from questions (depends on the person) and 70 points for a full set of correct flirts (which also depends on the Update Mode being applied) should bring you to 100 friendship (and 10 relationship) with room to spare, and make the dating and sex interactions available.

How do I do this? I downloaded the full 1.10.4.2 I didn't apply anu updates

on another note...

In the advanced options I set people clothing to cloistered and modest but they still go around mostly showing a lot not just in the privacy of their houses

TBBle

Quote from: storm4n on Feb 28, 2023, 11:25 AMHow do I do this? I downloaded the full 1.10.4.2 I didn't apply anu updates

In the launcher, go to the Modules tab, and enable the mod named "[Optional] Update mod (click for info)".

See the 1.10.4.0 release notes under "Existing & new saves note" for more details.

storm4n

Version 1.10.4.2 full download
Mods: Pregnancy mod, FindmyPhone, IndicatorsandDifficulty, VisibleSlaveCollar

So can anyone maybe help me out with the undressed state control not really working? girls are all around school in a shortened version of their uniforms and people out there in the street everywhere even though I chose the cloistered option and applied the settings


barteke22Topic starter

Quote from: storm4n on Feb 28, 2023, 09:18 PMSo can anyone maybe help me out with the undressed state control not really working? girls are all around school in a shortened version of their uniforms and people out there in the street everywhere even though I chose the cloistered option and applied the settings

Uh, might've replied to this one on Discord. If not, the 2 dressed options are reversed in public, so use the one below it.

Zaiaku

So I have a question: according to the update mod, the saves from 1.10.4 still requires its use however 1.10.5 does not. Does that mean the archetype overhaul was completed? Or are there still spots left?
Corrupting Students since 2006

TBBle

#119
I'm pretty sure it's the same text as 1.10.4 had, i.e. it was "optional" for new saves then too, where "optional" means "If you don't use it, flirting will be broken for some NPCs".

Flirt and GetSocialProfile don't appear to have been updated in 1.10.5 (still just 5 archetypes), so I assume it's still WIP.

Update: 1.10.5.1 reports this as worked-around, so it may not be necessary for flirting to work in new games anymore.