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Started by Rio, Apr 17, 2024, 08:01 PM

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RioTopic starter

I'm completely new to the game, so there's a lot I don't understand. I've tried to search for wikis and read posts, but there are simply no answers to many questions.
Everything in this game has a causal relationship, right?
I want to act not at random, not guessing, but knowing the result for sure. In fact, I realized that all characters have an archetype that influences what to give them and what compliments to give them. It is logical to assume that the success of communication depends on the right choice based on knowledge of the archetype and your level of charisma.
I tried almost all the options for flirting with the character, but it did not lead to any positive result or to its absence.
Conclusion, is my level of relationship or charisma too low?
Please give a guide on how best to build a relationship and how to act with each archetype. :'(
Here is my list of mods, in case they affect something?
I didn't figure out how to insert a picture...

⚧ Squark

Quote from: Rio on Apr 17, 2024, 08:01 PMI'm completely new to the game, so there's a lot I don't understand. I've tried to search for wikis and read posts, but there are simply no answers to many questions.
Everything in this game has a causal relationship, right?
I want to act not at random, not guessing, but knowing the result for sure. In fact, I realized that all characters have an archetype that influences what to give them and what compliments to give them. It is logical to assume that the success of communication depends on the right choice based on knowledge of the archetype and your level of charisma.
I tried almost all the options for flirting with the character, but it did not lead to any positive result or to its absence.
Conclusion, is my level of relationship or charisma too low?
Please give a guide on how best to build a relationship and how to act with each archetype. :'(
Here is my list of mods, in case they affect something?
I didn't figure out how to insert a picture...
As I said in response to your other post, charisma actually doesn't count for much in this game. Stamina (Fitness, some like big and beefy), Appearance and Grunge are the ones want to watch.
Keep youself clean and more will find you attractive.
An NPC's personality dictates what kind of flirt they like and some just don't respond well to any.  It happens. Maybe "Unflirty" should be a personality trait?

About pictures, use an image hoster and post the link. We don't have a huge amount of bandwidth here.

dcsobral

There's a causal relationship but with some randomness added. If you save the game before trying an interaction, for example, there is a chance you'll see a different result in many cases.

For images, use a site like imgur.com to upload the image to, then use the "image" link ({img}link.png{/img}, but with square braces instead of curly ones) to add it to your post.

The flirt mechanic is annoying, because there's not a lot of context to figure out what is the best option. In the end you learn that a Slutty personality calls for a Brazen compliment (etc) which takes a lot out of the sense of immersion you might get otherwise. Still it's better than it used to be.

RioTopic starter

Archetype   | Insightful            | Body
Advocate     | Environment     | Greenie
Caregiver     | Romance           | Tender Soul
Artist            | Filmography      | Creative
Explorer       | Hiking                  | Adventurer
Jock              | Sports                 | Athlete
Nerd              | Science               | Scholar
Performer    | Entertainment | Jester
Rebel             | Music                  | Rogue
Royal             | Politics                | Leader
Spiritual       | Religion               | Beliefs
Tastemaker | Fashion               | Trendsetter
Visionary     | Future                  | Genius

Personality  | Flirt
Cheerful       | Chirpy
Emo               | Reflective
Kind               | Thoughtful
Outgoing      | Confident
Prudish        | Sensible
Shy                 | Sensitive
Slutty            | Brazen
Wicked         | Devilish

That's what I wanted to see, I was also told that the character may not always be ready for your flirtation and refuse in any case

DeniedInMontana

#4
Correct, and there are different levels of friendship or relationship required in order for your conversation not to be rejected out of hand.



Base progression chain that I use:
Initial meeting
Spoiler
  • Personal/Ask about Job +5 Friendship
  • Interest/Hobbies +5 Friendship (1st Heart)
  • Interest/Need Help +5 Friendship (Archetype should be visible)
  • Personal/Birthday +Loyalty
  • Relationship/Flirt/Insightful +10 Friendship (+5 if wrong flirt) (2nd Heart)
  • <Adult> Relationship/Single  <Student> Other People/Parents  +5 Friendship
  • <Stop here for adults>  <Student> Other People/Parent Job  +5 Friendship
[close]

Done correctly for non-special characters, you should be at 30 Friendship <Adults> or 35 <Student>, both of which are represented as 3 hearts.  Archetype, Personality and Sub-Archetype should all be available, as well as their basic gender preferences.  From here, you can either wait a minimum of 3 days to be able to gift another item they request for +10 Friendship, or watch their reactions to see how they are taking your flirting.  If they have a low preference for your gender or you have a high grunge level you are quite likely not to be well received, so just use the "I don't know what to do" option to avoid a bad flirt and friendship/relationship hit.  Once they are willing to engage with what you are saying, then you can use the above guide to select the proper flirt responses for 10 Friendship.



Other Breakpoints to be aware of
  • After 35 friendship, and at least one day has passed since your initial conversation, you should be able to ask for their phone number.
  • At least 2 Relationship hearts and compatible gender preference are needed for asking about virginity.
  • At least 3 Relationship hearts AND 2 or more sex actions with intimacy to ask about kinks.
  • At least 85 Friendship required to ask for address successfully.
  • Once Relationship is 10 (1 Heart) OR Friendship is 100 (10 hearts), Flirting no longer grants friendship or relationship points.
  • After 60 Relationship (I think) Kissing no longer adds to relationship.
  • At 90 Relationship you can ask for a key to their home.

This should help you gain the affection of your chosen NPC.  Characters with quests incomplete will not have the option to flirt or gift items until their chain is done.

dcsobral

It's 35 for phone. Some of that stuff isn't as straightforward as depicted because it depends on other factors such as personality and loyalty.