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I was looking up some events, but where do you get the newspaper?

Quote from: Veelox on May 29, 2022, 06:32 PMI was looking up some events, but where do you get the newspaper?

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Take a dinner in the restaurant. Or get it in the internet.

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Is there a built in cheat menu?

Quote from: archer90 on May 30, 2022, 06:45 AMIs there a built in cheat menu?

The debug button at the bottom right lets you manually edit basically any value in the game or use console commands. Word to the wise, stick to editing stats and skill values if you're going to cheat. If you're not sure what editing something will do, save yourself a game-breaking bug and leave it alone.

Quote from: InhibitionAtTheGate on May 30, 2022, 07:20 AMThe debug button at the bottom right lets you manually edit basically any value in the game or use console commands. Word to the wise, stick to editing stats and skill values if you're going to cheat. If you're not sure what editing something will do, save yourself a game-breaking bug and leave it alone.

Be careful editing skills, too as you can cheat your Chemistry to 100 but you will miss more powerful formulae and new options if you just ZOOM! it all the way up.

Quote from: squark on May 30, 2022, 10:15 PM

Quote from: InhibitionAtTheGate on May 30, 2022, 07:20 AMThe debug button at the bottom right lets you manually edit basically any value in the game or use console commands. Word to the wise, stick to editing stats and skill values if you're going to cheat. If you're not sure what editing something will do, save yourself a game-breaking bug and leave it alone.

Be careful editing skills, too as you can cheat your Chemistry to 100 but you will miss more powerful formulae and new options if you just ZOOM! it all the way up.

Yeah, good catch with this as well. There's a very large handful of events that you'll miss if you do a lot of cheating in this game. A lot of effort was put into distinguishing each step of progress with events.

What's the best wat to raise school happiness? Having empty school hours doesn't seem to make that much of an impact.

where does thes the town commitee meet?

Quote from: AirEire2 on Jun 04, 2022, 09:33 PMwhere does thes the town commitee meet?

The town hall questline is unfinished and currently ends there.

Quote from: tentacles4all on Jun 04, 2022, 05:30 PMWhat's the best wat to raise school happiness? Having empty school hours doesn't seem to make that much of an impact.

Classes like sports, art, and music raise happiness much more than empty blocks. I'd recommend each student class to have at least one of these per day.

Okay, so I know dumping porn all over the place is effective for bumping Lust and Arousal, but does anything besides drugs do that for Corruption?

Quote from: squark on Jun 05, 2022, 08:16 PMOkay, so I know dumping porn all over the place is effective for bumping Lust and Arousal, but does anything besides drugs do that for Corruption?

If I remember right dropping dildos/onaholes raises Lust and Corruption with the demerit of lowering Arousal

i have a problem.
By some glitch my music club does not have a president. So i can not progress it to the cabaret and with Coppers quest for a MAID club.
Is there any way to appoint a president? maybe via console or debug window?

Most clubs require at least 5 members + someone with 20+ authority to elect a president.

Quote from: barteke22 on Jun 06, 2022, 10:16 PMMost clubs require at least 5 members + someone with 20+ authority to elect a president.

Thanks - it helps!

Has anyone figured out how to start Melinda Practiez's quest in the Beta? She's apparently part of a nurse / hospital prostitute quest line? But I haven't figured anything out about it.

Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 03:46 PMHas anyone figured out how to start Melinda Practiez's quest in the Beta? She's apparently part of a nurse / hospital prostitute quest line? But I haven't figured anything out about it.

Please, do not play Beta  :(

Quote from: Umgah on Jun 07, 2022, 04:58 PMPlease, do not play Beta  :(

I really don't know why people persist in playing the Beta, with 1.10.0.2 being a thing now.
I never even knew how Melinda Practiez' quest was supposed to start anyway.

Is the chem lab working in v1.10? I opened it and read the chemistry book, but it won't let me research drugs.  Did I miss something?

Two Questions
1. is there a reliable way to get the Hypnosis machine event to happen,
2. and is there a reliable way to get the Samantha keller watch over the Computer lab, and Spycam in the Computer lab events to trigger?

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Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 03:46 PMHas anyone figured out how to start Melinda Practiez's quest in the Beta? She's apparently part of a nurse / hospital prostitute quest line? But I haven't figured anything out about it.

Please, do not play Beta  :(

The 1.10 with the 5 Service Packs, is that considered Beta or not? If it is, why not play it?

how do you continue the nightclub thread?

Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 11:43 PMThe 1.10 with the 5 Service Packs, is that considered Beta or not? If it is, why not play it?

Because it's out of date and will receive no further updates or fixes. If you want to play a more recent version that WILL be continue to be worked on, go and get yourself 1.10.0.2.

@AirEire2 The nightclub has been left unfinished by its author that dropped it more less right after starting. If you have ideas for it, drop it into the Smallville Scenario: Event Submission (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/hhs-smallville-scenario-event-contribution/) thread.

Quote from: scorpionmit on Jun 07, 2022, 10:17 PMIs the chem lab working in v1.10? I opened it and read the chemistry book, but it won't let me research drugs.  Did I miss something?

AFAIK, you need to get some skill first, before research appearing. Try to read the book several times.

Quote from: NikoDiAngelo on Jun 07, 2022, 10:22 PMTwo Questions
1. is there a reliable way to get the Hypnosis machine event to happen,
2. and is there a reliable way to get the Samantha keller watch over the Computer lab, and Spycam in the Computer lab events to trigger?

1. Dont know for sure, but this event triggered for me on the 2nd or 3rd week in the park in all of my play (3 for now) in 1.10 release.
2. I just set her to teach Computer Science and grinded time skipping by 1 minute (with mod) while she was teaching there )

anyway. DoughTheC (https://henthighschool.net/profile/?u=2) in the HHS content recovery posted old txt file with much of the information about quests, peoples, clubs etc... And it helped me immensely
JPS_Full_Guide (https://attachments.f95zone.com/2019/03/268237_Hentai_High_School_-_JPS_Full_Guide.txt)

Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 11:43 PM

Quote from: Umgah on Jun 07, 2022, 04:58 PM

Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 03:46 PMHas anyone figured out how to start Melinda Practiez's quest in the Beta? She's apparently part of a nurse / hospital prostitute quest line? But I haven't figured anything out about it.

Please, do not play Beta  :(

The 1.10 with the 5 Service Packs, is that considered Beta or not? If it is, why not play it?

There are no SP5 for 1.10 so you playing 1.10 Beta (word "Beta" should be shown in the game window).

Why NOT to play Beta:

• It's outdated and unsupported. It was named "Beta" for a reason: test some things and then replaced with a proper version.
• It has many bugs that already were fixed in the main release.
• It does not have features that were added in main release.
• There no way to upgrade from Beta to Release. So the more you play Beta the more you going to lose when you hit a major bug.
• You are likely to have issues with 1.10 mods. And nobody going to adjust them for Beta.

Quote from: foxlits on Jun 08, 2022, 03:24 AMAFAIK, you need to get some skill first, before research appearing. Try to read the book several times.

I read the book until it stopped giving me chemistry points. It maxed out at 14. If I need more, where do I get it?

Quote from: scorpionmit on Jun 08, 2022, 03:45 AMI read the book until it stopped giving me chemistry points. It maxed out at 14. If I need more, where do I get it?

Thats strange. If you can try to add some chemistry to yourself via debug and reenter the lab... Just for testing. Now i am interested too ) Will check it myself later when i can and write back.

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Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 11:43 PM

Quote from: Umgah on Jun 07, 2022, 04:58 PM

Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 03:46 PMHas anyone figured out how to start Melinda Practiez's quest in the Beta? She's apparently part of a nurse / hospital prostitute quest line? But I haven't figured anything out about it.

Please, do not play Beta  :(

The 1.10 with the 5 Service Packs, is that considered Beta or not? If it is, why not play it?

There are no SP5 for 1.10 so you playing 1.10 Beta (word "Beta" should be shown in the game window).

Why NOT to play Beta:

• It's outdated and unsupported. It was named "Beta" for a reason: test some things and then replaced with a proper version.
• It has many bugs that already were fixed in the main release.
• It does not have features that were added in main release.
• There no way to upgrade from Beta to Release. So the more you play Beta the more you going to lose when you hit a major bug.
• You are likely to have issues with 1.10 mods. And nobody going to adjust them for Beta.

Well, really glad I posted to get corrected then. I was literally about to start a new game. Cheers!

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Quote from: scorpionmit on Jun 08, 2022, 03:45 AMI read the book until it stopped giving me chemistry points. It maxed out at 14. If I need more, where do I get it?

Thats strange. If you can try to add some chemistry to yourself via debug and reenter the lab... Just for testing. Now i am interested too ) Will check it myself later when i can and write back.

That worked. I set it to 20 and now the research button appears. Thanks.

Quote from: scorpionmit on Jun 08, 2022, 11:06 AMThat worked. I set it to 20 and now the research button appears. Thanks.

Having it stop at 14 is not what should happen. It should have brought you to 19 or 20 and then stop, like the Hypno or Hacking books.

Is there a cheat or a mod permitting to :

- Change the ratio male/female/futa at start of the game?

- To throw out of school a student?

Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 03:46 PMHas anyone figured out how to start Melinda Practiez's quest in the Beta? She's apparently part of a nurse / hospital prostitute quest line? But I haven't figured anything out about it.

For NON-BETA:

Believe she is tied into the "call a prostitute" chain from your home. This chain was extended from two years ago, but I think is not fully completed.

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A later post believes this quest is triggered when you buy school Ward and staff with doctor, then visit it & get message about "nurse" in the Ward.

Quote from: Strec on Jun 08, 2022, 07:06 PMIs there a cheat or a mod permitting to :

- Change the ratio male/female/futa at start of the game?

- To throw out of school a student?

1: You can change this value yourself. Navigate to NormalSchool\PopulationData\Sources and open StudentAny.xml in a text editor (such as Notepad++) and this changes the weighting.
I'm running the school with a 0/90/10 ratio at the moment at it all seems tick-tock.
Handles the Student population ratios, even the ones no currently enrolled.
AdultAny.xml in the same folder is the handler for the NPC adults.
Note: Will not remove or genderflip special characters.
Changing these values will only be represented in a new game.

2: No.

Thx, I did that in my previous games but it's far ago and I did not retrieve how to do :)

Same for the console commands, I don't retrieve any old info on the web and I'm short on money  :(

edit : found the console commands

What locations can i do the Hypnosis Tests from the PI? i have done one of them, but i can't find the location for the other/others

Quote from: NikoDiAngelo on Jun 14, 2022, 04:01 PMWhat locations can i do the Hypnosis Tests from the PI? i have done one of them, but i can't find the location for the other/others

For the advanced tests, you have probably done the

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school gym girls' changing room.

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That leaves the

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library, probably after hiring librarian.

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Can someone give me a rundown on the Sierra/Karin quest?

Also did the "party at my house" option for the hypnosis event get removed?

Quote from: Albatross on Jun 14, 2022, 11:41 PMCan someone give me a rundown on the Sierra/Karin quest?

Are you stuck or something?

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Quote from: Albatross on Jun 14, 2022, 11:41 PMCan someone give me a rundown on the Sierra/Karin quest?

Are you stuck or something?

No I just wanna know how the branching goes. I noticed that sometimes I finish it without certain events ever appearing. Like this current playthrough I never got the option of visiting her house with either Sierra or Peter.

Saw that some images used in the game were gifs. I figured I could swap out some of the jpg images with gifs and change the meta XML file names to match up with the gif. That is causing the images not to show in the game however.

Anyone know what I how I can get the replacement gifs to work? Am I missing a reference file to update somewhere? I managed to swap out jpg's with other jpg's just fine.

Quote from: Albatross on Jun 14, 2022, 11:41 PMCan someone give me a rundown on the Sierra/Karin quest?

Also did the "party at my house" option for the hypnosis event get removed?

Dunno... I had it when event triggered(in release version. It was a beach, your home and physical activity, if I remember right.

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Quote from: Albatross on Jun 14, 2022, 11:41 PMCan someone give me a rundown on the Sierra/Karin quest?

Also did the "party at my house" option for the hypnosis event get removed?

Dunno... I had it when event triggered(in release version. It was a beach, your home and physical activity, if I remember right.

Now I got it too, apparently you need to get the event a few times to unlock it?

Not sure if bugs or not, but can't get the hardman quest to continue (calling sierra to the office wont cause more events) or the nina parker quest to advance (pretty sure next she has to arrive to school late from being on the train all night or the random call to my phone while im home).

Can't get the panty event to trigger either for the cheerleading club (and thus no ginny panty crafting events happening either). Recently disbanded the club so its currently reforming (had only 5 girls and 4 futas, all rest were boys so maybe thats why?) so cant test it further for now.

Any new requirements for these quests i could be missing?

Quote from: xXxAnon515xXx on Jun 19, 2022, 04:39 PMCan't get the panty event to trigger either for the cheerleading club (and thus no ginny panty crafting events happening either). Recently disbanded the club so its currently reforming (had only 5 girls and 4 futas, all rest were boys so maybe thats why?) so cant test it further for now.

AFAIK, the cheerleader panty event was moved from the normal club hours, so you have to catch them at another time.

Cheerleader Panty-stealing event only triggers during the morning club times, Tuesday and Thursday.

I'm not sure about the Parker chain, but the other events you mentioned are all blocked if you've instituted the nude uniform rule.

Apart from that, I recall the second Sierra Hardman office meeting to be annoying to trigger, I'm pretty sure I triggered it by summoning her to the office, leaving and coming straight back in, but that shouldn't be _necessary_.

So I managed to trigger the morning Cheerleader club in the Beta build.
I've since forgotten what the trigger is >.<
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@TBBle, yeah it can take quite a while for it to trigger. You'll be alerted via the dialogue box (and an image) when the game has reached a point when it can be progressed.
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It's still a pain in the bum trying to raise Corruption to 15 without dumping toys everywhere.
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For what it's worth, I did find an image that could be used for the Sierra masturbating in the Office (though the background on it suggests a classroom) and it might need some cleanup: https://imgur.com/a/RUi4YmV
Also the eye colour on it would have to be redone. Sierra has amber eyes while the girl in this image has blue eyes.

... Also managed to find one or two that could be used for a Futa Annette...

Quote from: TBBle on Jun 21, 2022, 12:14 PMCheerleader Panty-stealing event only triggers during the morning club times, Tuesday and Thursday.

Morning club times? have not seen any clubs work in the morning and repeating tuesday morning is not doing anything. Got to mention that i already got passed all the PTA notions not related to quests save for the teacher student relationships, in case that is related.

Got the nina parker and sierra events working, but can't get the keller ones for the extra classes going now. Game wasnt this annoying about triggers on 1.95 =/

Quote from: squark on Jun 21, 2022, 02:46 PM... Also managed to find one or two that could be used for a Futa Annette...

OMG yes pls

Quote from: xXxAnon515xXx on Jun 22, 2022, 05:00 AMOMG yes pls

Standing reveal https://imgur.com/a/VBgN3wf
Messy Futa/Futa fuck: https://imgur.com/a/ZgBXz0C

Quote from: xXxAnon515xXx on Jun 22, 2022, 05:00 AMMorning club times? have not seen any clubs work in the morning and repeating tuesday morning is not doing anything.

I recall having the cheerleaders show up at one point (might have been visiting them in an afternoon club session, or might have been arriving at school one morning) and say "*something something something* and we're going to start training in the mornings as well".

Absolutely no idea what triggered it, I had assumed it was just after being open for a little while. The *something something something* is probably describing the trigger, but I don't remember what it was. If you're not seeing it happen, then perhaps it's size-of-the-club related, and you need to wait for it to build back up.

I know I hadn't yet had sexy cheerleader outfits delivered, and it wasn't driven by SPE because when I did trigger Ginny's crafting start, I already hand the panties. I'm pretty sure I'd camera'd both the Sports Area and female changing area.

I could probably just hunt down the event in the source and see what the exact triggers are, I guess.

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Quote from: squark on Jun 21, 2022, 02:46 PMIt's still a pain in the bum trying to raise Corruption to 15 without dumping toys everywhere.

Global corruption? Or specific groups? I noticed quite late in my current run that public sex acts with someone will raise corruption for witnesses by about 3 or 4 a pop (at the cost of loyalty and possibly reputation, I can't remember exactly how this works) up until when they start to get into to (probably also depends on inhibition, in the cases I tested I was on-school, inhibition was generally <20 for students, and I had high walls installed).

So if you need to raise corruption of, say, a club, that's pretty manageable.

I agree global corruption is slow to drive down; for that sort of thing you need lots of time, and to complete PTA quests (most of them end up with a super-corrupted person or two) and get Sayako and Helen Hooters started on their ongoing random corruption. Although on my current run, I didn't see Helen start doing the random corruption, maybe that's been changed, or I missed a trigger/opportunity.

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Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jun 07, 2022, 03:46 PMHas anyone figured out how to start Melinda Practiez's quest in the Beta? She's apparently part of a nurse / hospital prostitute quest line? But I haven't figured anything out about it.

I don't know what the other requirements are (probably has lust or inhibition requirements), but once you have the ward, you'll overheard a conversation behind the school about the nurse in the ward.

Quote from: TBBle on Jun 22, 2022, 10:47 AMGlobal corruption? Or specific groups? I noticed quite late in my current run that public sex acts with someone will raise corruption for witnesses by about 3 or 4 a pop (at the cost of loyalty and possibly reputation, I can't remember exactly how this works) up until when they start to get into to (probably also depends on inhibition, in the cases I tested I was on-school, inhibition was generally <20 for students, and I had high walls installed).

So if you need to raise corruption of, say, a club, that's pretty manageable.

I agree global corruption is slow to drive down; for that sort of thing you need lots of time, and to complete PTA quests (most of them end up with a super-corrupted person or two) and get Sayako and Helen Hooters started on their ongoing random corruption. Although on my current run, I didn't see Helen start doing the random corruption, maybe that's been changed, or I missed a trigger/opportunity.

Just trying to get it the 15 to start the Titsbig Corruption questline. So yeah, Global Corruption.

Quote from: squark on Jun 22, 2022, 06:33 PMJust trying to get it the 15 to start the Titsbig Corruption questline. So yeah, Global Corruption.

Chem Lab & hypno (students easiest) would probably be quickest.

how do you unlock  the use of spy cams?

Quote from: moomoo on Jun 23, 2022, 12:48 PMhow do you unlock  the use of spy cams?

Some spy cam locations just need to be visited until the Principal gets the idea (restroom, student changing room) and others need to be given reasons to be there. No point in having a spy cam where Cheerleaders would practice if the Club isn't open.

thank you
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Quote from: squark on Jun 22, 2022, 06:33 PMJust trying to get it the 15 to start the Titsbig Corruption questline. So yeah, Global Corruption.

The Titsbig questline requires average 15 corruption of current students, not Global. Having a small school and an uninhibited teacher in love with you, you can pump up corruption in the school pretty quickly through public sex acts. Beth Manili is an easy option as her simple quest-line ends with her in love and always up for a striptease to lower her inhibitions. I'm not sure how corruption flows from teachers to students or student-to-student, but if it does, then the Susan Hooter chain and the Sayako/Claire chain will also end up with good setups for corrupting students. Ronda Bell's quest line explicitly raises corruption, but it takes a lot of weekly visits so it's one of the "slow" approaches I mentioned before. (Not as slow as the Perrier chain, but still pretty slow.)

If you play your cards right, you can get the Cosplay and Cheerleader clubs to be hotbeds of uninhibited corruption too. (Probably swim club, but I haven't bought the pool in my current playthrough.) SPE is also a good source of corruption and uninhibition, but I think it also needs average student corruption of 15 to start, so won't help you get there.

Apart from mandatory quests needs and Claire Fuzushi (due to flaws in the Fuzushi/Cosplay Corruption chain), I haven't been using drugs or hypno to affect inhibition/corruption in my playthrough, and corruption of students has raised pretty well. I didn't really need to use public sex acts much early on either (when I did start to experiment with that, most of the students are into it, which doesn't raise corruption...)

this is a dumb question but here goes, does it matter if you corrupt the students first or teachers first?

What is the most effective way to raise reputation?

There's three main ones (okay, four) I use, one is once per week, another can be done every day and the other is random chance.

The random chance event is one that occurs during school hours while walking around outside. The player character finds a lost handbag/wallet and if you pick the right choices, you get about a +3 to reputation.

Daily has a very small rep buff like about +0.3. Chat with parents on the computer. I think chatting with an intellectual peer is a bit stronger.

Once per wee in the Forest zone (I think it only happens on the weekends) you'll randomly come across students jogging. One of these events will give you the option to join them. Another will give you the opportunity to strip down to your undies and join them. You want the first one if you're worried about your reputation.

Lastly, Tutoring Rie on the weekends is pretty effective.

Occasionally, your reputation will raise by a small amount per day. I think this is tied into the "Accept everybody" enrolment option.

Am I missing something, game-files, some hidden unlock, ect, but where is the "upgrades" to theoretical sex ed. I've gotten the event where a teacher comes and says that they're under-qualified to teach, but when I call on Keller I get nothing, nor can I suggest anything to the PTA. Same with Nude outfit, sexual harassment, staff outfits, ect. I've done all the PTA suggestions that I can do. Model cleaning, usage, inspection, ect.

Don't recall it being that complicated in 1.95.

Quote from: Zhaliora on Jul 13, 2022, 11:15 PMAm I missing something, game-files, some hidden unlock, ect, but where is the "upgrades" to theoretical sex ed. I've gotten the event where a teacher comes and says that they're under-qualified to teach, but when I call on Keller I get nothing, nor can I suggest anything to the PTA. Same with Nude outfit, sexual harassment, staff outfits, ect. I've done all the PTA suggestions that I can do. Model cleaning, usage, inspection, ect.

Don't recall it being that complicated in 1.95.

You need only Keller teaching Theoretical Sex Ed, and the school and her need to be pretty lewd. Keller will walk into the office and suggest it. Then get the PTA to pass it.

I have been trying to get the nude uniform, but I can't unlock the PTA proposal for it. I thought it was related to following the exhibition club around, but it isn't unlocking.

The four-day hypno cooldown almost renders it unusably slow. It's way too nerfy.

Quote from: adjaver on Jul 15, 2022, 08:38 PMI have been trying to get the nude uniform, but I can't unlock the PTA proposal for it. I thought it was related to following the exhibition club around, but it isn't unlocking.

Has Nature's Way passed?

why do some character names show up in green?  also how do I raise my own charisma?

Edit: also is 350 a month the cheapest you can get the cabaret building?  And how the hell do I trigger the hypnosis practical tests?

Quote from: Circle on Jul 20, 2022, 07:25 PMwhy do some character names show up in green?  also how do I raise my own charisma?

Green names are futa. Charisma can be raised by reading Cicero's Orations.

You can also raise Charisma with a special 'Chat over coffee' option with the librarian.

Quote from: Circle on Jul 20, 2022, 07:25 PMEdit: also is 350 a month the cheapest you can get the cabaret building?  And how the hell do I trigger the hypnosis practical tests?

Yes, 350 is the lowest you can go, and practical tests take place in the Library and the Girls' Locker Room.

Quote from: Circle on Jul 20, 2022, 07:25 PMwhy do some character names show up in green?  also how do I raise my own charisma?

Edit: also is 350 a month the cheapest you can get the cabaret building?  And how the hell do I trigger the hypnosis practical tests?

Green names mean Futanari or Hermaphrodite. Being based on "Hentai", this game uses the Japanese word of Futanari instead, and then shortens it to Futa.
If you set one of your principal's fetishes to "Futa", they'll be hidden until you figure it out via sex or seeing them in a locker room (unless that got updated in the release build).

$350/month is the cheapest the Cabaret goes. Cooking club alone nets you $350/week, so that's about three weeks every month you're still making a profit. I'm not sure how much the other clubs (Theater and Music, iirc) make there, but since they all share the building, it just becomes more profit as you build them up.

Practical tests are Nurses in the Hospital (this one includes men, even if the image is always female), girls in the School Locker Room (should only be females and futa since even with Nature's Law, boys never go in here), and girls¹ in the Park. I've never seen the one in the library myself.
¹Never bothered paying attention to the NPC name mentioned, "Girls" might include male characters too, like in the hospital.

Is there any way to tell the average corruption of the student body?

Greetings, gentlemen, and hopefully ladies!

Does anyone have a clue why default config settings changes to generate students below the age of 18 is no longer working properly?
For whatever reason at least initially generated students don't go below 16, while I perfectly remember that even some of the unique ones were hard-coded to be as young as 15 in beta, unless capped by the settings of course.

Not making pedophile excuses here, but I'm trying to role-play a principled principal focused on education, splitting students among classes according to their age groups, which is pain in the ass by itself since they celebrate birthdays without any notice (unless you befriend them beforehand of course; moreover treating birth date as a mystery from establishment is nonsense too if you ask me), making sure they study disciplines which correspond to their maturity, and therefore don't get emancipated before the age of reasonable consent. As a side note I also forbid myself from using non-conventional measures like chemistry or hypnosis on students.

No longer having an option to make students older than 20 breaks my immersion too, btw. Not to mention that for a game full of depravity with gender-bender drugs, incest, and mind-control — such limitations are most puzzling to say the least.

Thanks!

Quote from: QuiteRight on Jul 21, 2022, 06:28 PMGreetings, gentlemen, and hopefully ladies!

Does anyone have a clue why default config settings changes to generate students below the age of 18 is no longer working properly?
For whatever reason at least initially generated students don't go below 16, while I perfectly remember that even some of the unique ones were hard-coded to be as young as 15 in beta, unless capped by the settings of course.

Not making pedophile excuses here, but I'm trying to role-play a principled principal focused on education, splitting students among classes according to their age groups, which is pain in the ass by itself since they celebrate birthdays without any notice (unless you befriend them beforehand of course; moreover treating birth date as a mystery from establishment is nonsense too if you ask me), making sure they study disciplines which correspond to their maturity, and therefore don't get emancipated before the age of reasonable consent. As a side note I also forbid myself from using non-conventional measures like chemistry or hypnosis on students.

No longer having an option to make students older than 20 breaks my immersion too, btw. Not to mention that for a game full of depravity with gender-bender drugs, incest, and mind-control — such limitations are most puzzling to say the least.

Thanks!

You can set age ranges for the students in NormalSchool\PopulationData\Parameters.

QuoteYou can set age ranges for the students in NormalSchool\PopulationData\Parameters.

Thank you kindly.

It's still a chore that could have been managed by in-game settings for all we care.

Quote from: squark on Jul 21, 2022, 05:35 PMIs there any way to tell the average corruption of the student body?

...That's what the corruption stat tells you up top. Same for all the other stats. It doesn't take into account anyone not enrolled as a Student.

Quote from: OutOfUniqueNames on Jul 21, 2022, 06:57 PM

Quote from: squark on Jul 21, 2022, 05:35 PMIs there any way to tell the average corruption of the student body?

...That's what the corruption stat tells you up top. Same for all the other stats. It doesn't take into account anyone not enrolled as a Student.

Then the Titsbig chain should have fired by now. It's sitting at about 20ish.
I haven't even been told by a random student that there's something weird going on.

I think it was tweaked to depend on her stats instead, as the old conditions were weird.

Quote from: barteke22 on Jul 21, 2022, 08:00 PMI think it was tweaked to depend on her stats instead, as the old conditions were weird.

Oh. That's going to take a lot more work.
Thanks.

Quote from: squark on Jul 21, 2022, 09:52 PM

Quote from: barteke22 on Jul 21, 2022, 08:00 PMI think it was tweaked to depend on her stats instead, as the old conditions were weird.

Oh. That's going to take a lot more work.
Thanks.

I believe Felicia needs 20 corruption personally.

Quote from: oratorio on Jul 22, 2022, 12:11 PMI believe Felicia needs 20 corruption personally.

Oof, that's a harder one to get given she's a quest character. I was hoping for education related stats.

Quote from: oratorio on Jul 22, 2022, 12:11 PMI believe Felicia needs 20 corruption personally.

No, that's not the case. I got her personal corruption to 16 (which was a massive pain in the ass considering the protection HasQuest offers) and everything proceeded as normal.

Having to bump her personal corruption makes sense but the HasQuest protection factor makes a very slow and laborious process, especially when you factor in the default 4-day Hypno cooldown debuff.
This makes it a maximum of about 1Pt/week and considering it starts down near zero...
I had to repeatedly break into her home twice a week just to corrupt her slightly.

What does "individual profit or (Loss) per column" mean? I've always assumed "Net Profit or (Loss)" meant the sum of all rows above, but I just don't understand how the other one is computed.

Edit: nevermind, I figured it out myself. Net weekly is Individual weekly plus Net Daily, and Net Monthly and Individual Monthly plus Net Weekly. The "individual" row has the values charged/paid every 1st day of month, every Monday and every day respectively.

I am at day 1 and can't get an option to have a part time job at the restaurant. Hast been changed?

Quote from: Arel on Jul 22, 2022, 09:21 PMI am at day 1 and can't get an option to have a part time job at the restaurant. Hast been changed?

It has not. Maybe it's late or you don't have enough energy?

Quote from: dcsobral on Jul 22, 2022, 10:27 PM

Quote from: Arel on Jul 22, 2022, 09:21 PMI am at day 1 and can't get an option to have a part time job at the restaurant. Hast been changed?

It has not. Maybe it's late or you don't have enough energy?

Nope I am there past 8 AM and with near full energy but I don't have the button showing up.

I vaguely remember a document in I think OneNote that had an in-depth guide on every single Teacher and PTA member alongside their event requirements. It had a warning on it that it was a publicly edited document and to keep it strictly within this community. I can't for the life of me find the document.

how do you make a PTA proposal?

Quote from: moomoo on Jul 24, 2022, 02:39 AMhow do you make a PTA proposal?

 Talk to either your secretary or personal assistant - Susan Hooter or Swan (I forget her first name), and then tell them to schedule a PTA meeting. Next day at 16:00, go to the meeting room beside the Principal's Office, at there you go. Now there's no guarantee it will be accepted and if it doesn't it most likely will negatively affect your reputation.

thank you

Quote from: Zaiaku on Jul 24, 2022, 11:54 AM

Quote from: moomoo on Jul 24, 2022, 02:39 AMhow do you make a PTA proposal?

 Talk to either your secretary or personal assistant - Susan Hooter or Swan (I forget her first name), and then tell them to schedule a PTA meeting. Next day at 16:00, go to the meeting room beside the Principal's Office, at there you go. Now there's no guarantee it will be accepted and if it doesn't it most likely will negatively affect your reputation.

Personally, I like to save before the meeting, that way I can try out all the proposals currently unlocked and see who argues what and work against the vetoes immediately, then work towards improving the opinions of others.

You have enough time in a meeting to suggest two changes, though the meeting will be over as soon as one change is accepted. Even if you can't convince them, they stick around for a while after the meeting, giving you the chance to chat with them, and if they're loyal/corrupted enough, give them items to further their stats; or if they aren't quest protected or you turned off protection, you can hypnotise them and forcibly change their ways that way.

How do I attend to town steering committee?

The school fills with students too quickly. I routinely get 10+ every month.
Is there a way to cut down the number of applications per week?
What am I supposed to do when I have more than 280 students (40/room, 7 classrooms), all the teachers and no available slots?
Even the scheduler that was posted here wouldn't be able to do much with that.
End enrolments? That suggests it'll negatively impact your image.
It's like Smallville's parents don't understand that there is limited space and limited teacher availability.

Quote from: squark on Jul 26, 2022, 03:15 PMThe school fills with students too quickly. I routinely get 10+ every month.
Is there a way to cut down the number of applications per week?
What am I supposed to do when I have more than 280 students (40/room, 7 classrooms), all the teachers and no available slots?
Even the scheduler that was posted here wouldn't be able to do much with that.
End enrolments? That suggests it'll negatively impact your image.
It's like Smallville's parents don't understand that there is limited space and limited teacher availability.

Switch to Limited Growth or By Interview--though if you do the latter, make sure you approve of half of the candidates, rounded up. Needs Based might also be limited, but it lowers your Education, Happiness, Loyalty, Lust, and Corruption, while raising your Inhibition. The Education will effect your monthly pay, while the rest effect events that can have a negative impact.
You can also edit your Schools/NormalSchool/Config/DefaultGameConfig to have higher students per class (I personally saved it under a different name so my default was still there).
Another option is to have more classes than teachers, give your students free periods if you must, or else let a random class go without a teacher (I think students can study at a slower pace without a teacher?). The teachers should juggle which class they help to try and make sure each class is well taught.

Oh, but you shouldn't need to worry about getting too many students unless you're on By Interview. Students are automatically turned down, safely, when you're at the max capacity for your current classes. Only a few events that force special characters into your school will still cause extras (such as Andy and/or Annette).

Quote from: Furrin Gok on Jul 27, 2022, 05:01 AMor else let a random class go without a teacher (I think students can study at a slower pace without a teacher?).

From what I've seen, they will do "free study", but there's a (higher, by personal observation) chance of getting a negative education event if you enter the classroom, so be careful there.

Quote from: blumph on Jul 27, 2022, 12:47 PM

Quote from: Furrin Gok on Jul 27, 2022, 05:01 AMor else let a random class go without a teacher (I think students can study at a slower pace without a teacher?).

From what I've seen, they will do "free study", but there's a (higher, by personal observation) chance of getting a negative education event if you enter the classroom, so be careful there.

I remember just waiting in a teacherless class once and didn't get any of those events, so either I got lucky, or hanging out inside the room makes you count as the teacher. I wonder if that's actually a thing, it only checks if an adult is there, or the Principal counts as "WOrking this location" to count as a staffed class?

Quote from: Furrin Gok on Jul 27, 2022, 10:31 PMI remember just waiting in a teacherless class once and didn't get any of those events, so either I got lucky, or hanging out inside the room makes you count as the teacher. I wonder if that's actually a thing, it only checks if an adult is there, or the Principal counts as "WOrking this location" to count as a staffed class?

Were you advancing time in the room, or were you entering/leaving the room? Also, it may be dependent on the student stats; smart, happy students may be less likely to complain and act up than grumpy dummies. I can't find the event name ATM; I'll scroll through later when I'm more awake. 

Quote from: blumph on Jul 28, 2022, 03:15 AM

Quote from: Furrin Gok on Jul 27, 2022, 10:31 PMI remember just waiting in a teacherless class once and didn't get any of those events, so either I got lucky, or hanging out inside the room makes you count as the teacher. I wonder if that's actually a thing, it only checks if an adult is there, or the Principal counts as "WOrking this location" to count as a staffed class?

Were you advancing time in the room, or were you entering/leaving the room? Also, it may be dependent on the student stats; smart, happy students may be less likely to complain and act up than grumpy dummies. I can't find the event name ATM; I'll scroll through later when I'm more awake. 

I was clicking the wait buttons while inside the room. This was before any major griding for high happiness, though religion classes might have given slight loyalty.

this version looks much better but what is wrong with inhibition?
enrolled students have 100, other students much less?
And what is Annette's Quest, how do I start it?

Quote from: gargle on Aug 06, 2022, 06:59 AMthis version looks much better but what is wrong with inhibition?
enrolled students have 100, other students much less?
And what is Annette's Quest, how do I start it?

Nobody should have 100 Inhibition. Sounds like a problem. The most inhibited I've ever seen in a student is 90ish.
Annette's quest is started -and I don't know the exact trigger- but you're going to need to invest in Hacking somewhat. At some point, the game will tell you about Annette's laptop and that you might be able to find something interesting in it but she guards it too closely. The only time when you could break into it is when she's at school.

well, Suzy Slutsky had 100 Inhibition, her mother almost 0
Started a new game, now it's ok, it appears to be an issue with Schooluniforms and -swimsuits

Quote from: gargle on Aug 06, 2022, 07:50 PMwell, Suzy Slutsky had 100 Inhibition, her mother almost 0
Started a new game, now it's ok, it appears to be an issue with Schooluniforms and -swimsuits

You mean a student hit 100 inhibition with you setting school swimsuits and school uniforms to the most inhibited setting? If so, working as intended unless you have other rules set to the lewd option or classes like Art or Anatomy or similar.

there was a lot of Art and Music and the effect of those clothes used to be less harsh, perhaps a change in 1.10

Quote from: gargle on Aug 06, 2022, 10:43 PMthere was a lot of Art and Music and the effect of those clothes used to be less harsh, perhaps a change in 1.10

I never experienced this and I usually go Uniform and School Swimsuit for a couple of weeks.

So did I for years, without any problems
Inhibition, lust and corruption were moving slowly but that was ok as reputation was more important to me in early stages
still have a save

Is the Andy quest line incomplete?

Quoting from another thread:
"Would be cool if there were other gauges for stat averages for other groups like there is for your students. Endgame feels even more nebulous without seeing a number go up for the adults"

Is there anyway to get the average town corruption/inhibition from the debug or any other means?

Quote from: Albatross on Sep 23, 2022, 12:22 AMIs there anyway to get the average town corruption/inhibition from the debug or any other means?

Only by calculating it in a VEE script, AFAIK. The "school averages" used on the UI upper bar are calculated in the compiled code right now, so not configurable or extendable, sadly. (Though this might be a useful ExtensionLibrary or NativeEvent behaviour to expose...)

A VEE button that calculates and reports it in your bedroom or office, for example, would be quite easy to add in a mod, I think. I prototyped something similar in https://henthighschool.net/index.php?msg=1484 for example.

What can be done to influence the town corruption and/or inhibition? I know inhibition can be affected by the principal's clothes, but I don't know of anything other than mass hypnosis or chemistry breakthrough events that can influence corruption at scale.

Quote from: dcsobral on Sep 30, 2022, 04:10 AMWhat can be done to influence the town corruption and/or inhibition? I know inhibition can be affected by the principal's clothes, but I don't know of anything other than mass hypnosis or chemistry breakthrough events that can influence corruption at scale.

There's not many things currently. You can have public sex in a crowded place but that gives you a pretty big rep hit, there's also a event of students masturbating in the park that does the same. Some beach events also affect all visitants with corruption I think.

Quote from: dcsobral on Sep 30, 2022, 04:10 AMWhat can be done to influence the town corruption and/or inhibition? I know inhibition can be affected by the principal's clothes, but I don't know of anything other than mass hypnosis or chemistry breakthrough events that can influence corruption at scale.

Public sex can have a corrupting effect on reasonably uncorrupted witnesses. You're losing rep for that, though, and it might depend on sufficient inhibition/lust/arousal.

Otherwise you're relying on the osmosis effect, and I don't actually know how that works mechanically.

For town-wide inhibition, I think (but haven't checked) that both Nature's Way (photoshop questline) and exhibition club (requires unihibited students) should help this over time. I'm not sure if this depends on you attending exhibition club events, or simply happens once they are triggered.

Hoi. I have a question regarding the quest to rescue a lost girl. More precisely, I already passed the quest and failed it. The worker said that he needed to take the girls once a month. The only question is how to do it? A month has already passed, they just kill me and that's it.

Quote from: dlerof on Oct 04, 2022, 09:31 PMHoi. I have a question regarding the quest to rescue a lost girl. More precisely, I already passed the quest and failed it. The worker said that he needed to take the girls once a month. The only question is how to do it? A month has already passed, they just kill me and that's it.

Check the forest in the park.

just noticed that the principal works pro bono.
Bug, glitch or do I just have to wait a bit?

School income stream is his income stream... Not pro bono but not unpaid either...

Quote from: RoboArchie on Oct 05, 2022, 01:36 PMSchool income stream is his income stream... Not pro bono but not unpaid either...

And you get paid towards the end of the month as well - and no, I'm not confusing it with the bonuses from the RSD.

Quote from: RoboArchie on Oct 05, 2022, 01:36 PMSchool income stream is his income stream... Not pro bono but not unpaid either...

It's pretty dodgy from a fiscal standpoint - there should probably be more separation between his personal finances and the school's finances, if only for the purposes of preparing for his eventual departure from the job (one way or another). On the other hand, for gameplay purposes, it's simpler to have a single pot of money rather than having to distinguish which purchases are personal and which are legitimate school expenses.

So complete noob question but how are you supposed to build friendship?  Most of the time it seems I can ask them if they need anything but some NPCs just don't have that as an option and at best I can ask them their hobby.

This one has stumped me for a while now.

Is there a particular stat like loyalty that needs to be higher?

Quote from: Ash on Oct 05, 2022, 06:22 PMSo complete noob question but how are you supposed to build friendship?

The "Flirt with them" option, despite its name, builds friendship if you pick the 'right' options.

Quest NPCs (almost all staff/teachers, ones with a '!' next to their name) have most direct interactions locked until you complete their quest.

Quote from: squark on Jun 09, 2022, 02:16 AM

Quote from: Strec on Jun 08, 2022, 07:06 PMIs there a cheat or a mod permitting to :

- Change the ratio male/female/futa at start of the game?

- To throw out of school a student?

1: You can change this value yourself. Navigate to NormalSchool\PopulationData\Sources and open StudentAny.xml in a text editor (such as Notepad++) and this changes the weighting.
I'm running the school with a 0/90/10 ratio at the moment at it all seems tick-tock.
Handles the Student population ratios, even the ones no currently enrolled.
AdultAny.xml in the same folder is the handler for the NPC adults.
Note: Will not remove or genderflip special characters.
Changing these values will only be represented in a new game.

2: No.

So I duno why but when I tried this it kills the game, I can revert the files with an old copy paste backup and it still gives me an error after trying this... something about tweaking this seems to break the game.
To be specific on hitting play it gives an Exception, supposedly "An item with the same key has already been added."
And again this is with the files reverted back to a copied state, the only way I found to fix this is to do a fresh copy of everything(essentially a fresh install).
Edit: to be more more specific a overwriting files doesn't work, has to be clean new files to fix... not sure maybe some Windows shenanigans.

FINAL EDIT: I figured out the problem, having the backup folder/files in the same folder was the problem, it doesn't like extra files in there.

so, can anyone help me understand the pregnancy mechanic?

Quote from: Lantier on Oct 06, 2022, 07:50 AMso, can anyone help me understand the pregnancy mechanic?

Condom usage is based on the mod's settings (will you use it? will your choice override your partner's?) and whether the people involved have condoms or not.

Conception is based on whether condom is used (no chance of conception) and the chance of impregnation of each partner, which is sort of like a menstrual cycle but for both men and women. And the mod's settings.

Gender of child is based on gender of parents, and the mod's settings.

Does that cover it? The help on the mod's settings is fairly comprehensive.

I was gonna ask the specific details, or if you have links explaining the numerical data

Is there a way to reset an event chain? Made an oopsie and clicked the wrong decision w/o a save nearby. Unless the Prostitute chain loops and she asks if you want her name again

Quote from: Lantier on Oct 06, 2022, 04:29 PMI was gonna ask the specific details, or if you have links explaining the numerical data

Check the help displayed on the mod's settings. It has a fair amount of numerical data. Everything I know came from there.

How long does it take for Futa Maker to take effect?

Two weeks.

Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 08, 2022, 12:42 PMTwo weeks.

thanks, there are some with whom it can not be used? I want to use with Andy and then use the one that turns them into a girl

I know that Nature's Way Law is a requirement for changing teacher and staff's dress code, is there anything else that's needed?

Sorry for the double post, but I got another question. Can you change the info boxes to give numerical stats rather than images and bars?

Quote from: Zaiaku on Oct 12, 2022, 10:36 PMSorry for the double post, but I got another question. Can you change the info boxes to give numerical stats rather than images and bars?

You can change the display mode in game in the same screen.

Hover over the tab.

Hello,
I got a bit stuck with the Music club progressing. Once they are in the cabaret they want me to get a bigger stage. How do I do that? Not sure what I'm missing.

Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 24, 2022, 08:26 AMHello,
I got a bit stuck with the Music club progressing. Once they are in the cabaret they want me to get a bigger stage. How do I do that? Not sure what I'm missing.

Check the Journal for clues. You need to talk to Stacy again.

Maybe a silly question: How do i get a key from a person? I cant remember if its random or if its only getting by high corruption (although i already did many corruption + being in love with them).

Quote from: TopfinderPflanze on Oct 24, 2022, 06:52 PMMaybe a silly question: How do i get a key from a person? I cant remember if its random or if its only getting by high corruption (although i already did many corruption + being in love with them).

I know I can get a key if the person is in love. Go to their house, knock on the door/try the intercom, and if they are there and your relationship with them is at the required level they'll give you a key.

Mind you, when you go to "other addresses" it first asks if you want to "break in". Once you reply Yes it then gives the option to try the intercom. Someone ought to submit an improvement to that first dialog, but I'm lazy.

Quote from: dcsobral on Oct 24, 2022, 05:28 PM

Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 24, 2022, 08:26 AMHello,
I got a bit stuck with the Music club progressing. Once they are in the cabaret they want me to get a bigger stage. How do I do that? Not sure what I'm missing.

Check the Journal for clues. You need to talk to Stacy again.

The journal only says that I need to think of something and there is no option to speak about it with Stacy.

Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 25, 2022, 01:06 AMThe journal only says that I need to think of something and there is no option to speak about it with Stacy.

What sort of relationship do you have with Stacy?
She may have shot down the idea. That happens if she doesn't trust you enough, iirc.
One thing you could do is corrupt her ass and try again.

Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 25, 2022, 01:06 AM

Quote from: dcsobral on Oct 24, 2022, 05:28 PM

Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 24, 2022, 08:26 AMHello,
I got a bit stuck with the Music club progressing. Once they are in the cabaret they want me to get a bigger stage. How do I do that? Not sure what I'm missing.

Check the Journal for clues. You need to talk to Stacy again.

The journal only says that I need to think of something and there is no option to speak about it with Stacy.

I can confirm that this one must be a bug (normally i would post this under report bugs section). Stacys Corruption is at 95 right now. And she already support me in every possible way. However this one doesnt trigger because when you talk to Stacy "Special", then there is no option to choose that she will update for the club.

Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 25, 2022, 01:06 AM

Quote from: dcsobral on Oct 24, 2022, 05:28 PM

Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 24, 2022, 08:26 AMHello,
I got a bit stuck with the Music club progressing. Once they are in the cabaret they want me to get a bigger stage. How do I do that? Not sure what I'm missing.

Check the Journal for clues. You need to talk to Stacy again.

The journal only says that I need to think of something and there is no option to speak about it with Stacy.

"You have to think about it" is code for "this event is scheduled some time in the future". I might be wrong, though... how's the Cooking club progressed? You might need to get them go to topless before you can advance the music club.

Quote from: squark on Oct 26, 2022, 03:03 PM

Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 25, 2022, 01:06 AMThe journal only says that I need to think of something and there is no option to speak about it with Stacy.

What sort of relationship do you have with Stacy?
She may have shot down the idea. That happens if she doesn't trust you enough, iirc.
One thing you could do is corrupt her ass and try again.

Problem is that there is no option to ask her anything. I did corrupt her a good bit but nothing shows up.

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Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 25, 2022, 01:06 AM

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Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 24, 2022, 08:26 AMHello,
I got a bit stuck with the Music club progressing. Once they are in the cabaret they want me to get a bigger stage. How do I do that? Not sure what I'm missing.

Yeah, could be. I mean, there are a quite a few storylines that still unfinished, so this one might be one of those. I wish they would just point out that there is no more content instead of making it ambiguous and having players trying to track the thing down.

Check the Journal for clues. You need to talk to Stacy again.

The journal only says that I need to think of something and there is no option to speak about it with Stacy.

"You have to think about it" is code for "this event is scheduled some time in the future". I might be wrong, though... how's the Cooking club progressed? You might need to get them go to topless before you can advance the music club.

Hello how do i get drugs?

Quote from: belix96 on Oct 28, 2022, 08:05 PMHello how do i get drugs?

The event chain starts when you build the Chemistry Classroom, and requires you to build up 20 points in chemistry skill before you actually can start producing drugs.

Quote from: Calob on Oct 28, 2022, 09:46 PM

Quote from: belix96 on Oct 28, 2022, 08:05 PMHello how do i get drugs?

The event chain starts when you build the Chemistry Classroom, and requires you to build up 20 points in chemistry skill before you actually can start producing drugs.

Given that some of the students request drugs to complete the friendship quests, it seems odd that they request something you have no access to.
Perhaps a shady seller that sells for a whole heap of money that gets him/herself arrested (when you hit Chemistry 19 or 20) due to the "Police crackdown on drugs" alluded to in the newspaper could be added?

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Quote from: Azal012 on Oct 24, 2022, 08:26 AMHello,
I got a bit stuck with the Music club progressing. Once they are in the cabaret they want me to get a bigger stage. How do I do that? Not sure what I'm missing.

Yeah, could be. I mean, there are a quite a few storylines that still unfinished, so this one might be one of those. I wish they would just point out that there is no more content instead of making it ambiguous and having players trying to track the thing down.

Check the Journal for clues. You need to talk to Stacy again.

The journal only says that I need to think of something and there is no option to speak about it with Stacy.

"You have to think about it" is code for "this event is scheduled some time in the future". I might be wrong, though... how's the Cooking club progressed? You might need to get them go to topless before you can advance the music club.

What has to happen is that the cooking club also needs to request an upgrade to the room. Only once both want it done can you ask Stacy about it.

Poking through the files, I noticed there's

Spoiler

a bad end for the Underwood chain.

[close]

How does this actually get called?

Do not open the spoiler if you want to try out every possible option and permutation.

EDIT: I think I know. Pretty much makes it so that a minigame is central to Jessica's quest.

One other thing: I've noticed that the Principal's name is not a fixed to a default.
I can only speak for Female and Futa Principals as I don't use the male character.

Sometimes, the game will generate "Elizabeth Des" for the female and "Lotta Fuck" (groan) for the Futa.

How do you change the actual dress code? The options are always hidden for me, even for basic uniforms. Is the only solution going into the Config files and un-hiding them myself?

Quote from: TheBigPancake on Nov 11, 2022, 06:02 PMHow do you change the actual dress code? The options are always hidden for me, even for basic uniforms. Is the only solution going into the Config files and un-hiding them myself?

If you mean like changing to (for example) the Sexy School Uniform, then it must be agreed to by the PTA. Otherwise the only uniform option you get is the Default.

On the other hand:
Student Dress Code Changes should have five options. Casual clothes and four coloured uniforms.
Pick one of those and then Uniform Colour and Student Dress Code should pop up.

Uniform changes take one day (if I recall correctly) to implement.

Non-Hypno Seduction seems very difficult at least, virtually impossible at worst.
Given that even at max friendship (100), most of the NPCs will have a relationship score of 10.
Flirting only increases arousal and even then, by a miniscule amount (~2).

Anybody got any usable tips? I don't want to rely on Hypno or Drugs if it can be helped.

Quote from: squark on Nov 11, 2022, 10:51 AMOne other thing: I've noticed that the Principal's name is not a fixed to a default.
I can only speak for Female and Futa Principals as I don't use the male character.

Sometimes, the game will generate "Elizabeth Des" for the female and "Lotta Fuck" (groan) for the Futa.

Yeah, "Lotta Fuck" is awful. I much prefer my own Charity Fuchs for her. And I go with Grant Fuchs for the male principal.

Go to Character Creation, load the base profile then pick whatever name you want, save, and use that when starting a new game.

Quote from: squark on Nov 11, 2022, 07:00 PMNon-Hypno Seduction seems very difficult at least, virtually impossible at worst.
Given that even at max friendship (100), most of the NPCs will have a relationship score of 10.
Flirting only increases arousal and even then, by a miniscule amount (~2).

Anybody got any usable tips? I don't want to rely on Hypno or Drugs if it can be helped.

Start with a strip, go on from there. Use Cologne/Perfume to "prep" the character beforehand by increasing their arousal.

Quote from: squark on Nov 11, 2022, 06:55 PM

Quote from: TheBigPancake on Nov 11, 2022, 06:02 PMHow do you change the actual dress code? The options are always hidden for me, even for basic uniforms. Is the only solution going into the Config files and un-hiding them myself?

If you mean like changing to (for example) the Sexy School Uniform, then it must be agreed to by the PTA. Otherwise the only uniform option you get is the Default.

On the other hand:
Student Dress Code Changes should have five options. Casual clothes and four coloured uniforms.
Pick one of those and then Uniform Colour and Student Dress Code should pop up.

Uniform changes take one day (if I recall correctly) to implement.

For some reason, I switch the code change to one of the coloured uniforms and the Dress Code doesn't pop up. The option to require that students actually follow the Dress Code simply stays at "normal clothes" even when time has passed with a uniform selected.

Edit: nevermind, had to refresh files with the debug and got everything to work somehow.

Quote from: squark on Nov 11, 2022, 07:00 PMNon-Hypno Seduction seems very difficult at least, virtually impossible at worst.
Given that even at max friendship (100), most of the NPCs will have a relationship score of 10.
Flirting only increases arousal and even then, by a miniscule amount (~2).

Anybody got any usable tips? I don't want to rely on Hypno or Drugs if it can be helped.

Be attractive. Be clean.

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This also works in-game. ^_^

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Getting relationship score to 10 is enough, when you've put the time into the gym each day and have high attractiveness (and also the Charisma book helps, I think), to invite someone with reasonable arousal levels back to your place to do a strip tease, which will boost their arousal more, opening more options. Even if you push too far, and they say no to a follow-up option, there was still a relationship and lust bump, so next time is easier.

I have a vague idea that Authority also helps, but that might only apply with students and/or staff? It also might be a "best of authority and attractiveness" score or something.

Shower after the gym, stop in the school changing rooms and shower before you make a pass at a teacher or student, etc. Your grime heavily counteracts attractiveness and your partner's arousal.

As you do this repeatedly with a single character, their lust (and corruption?) and inhibition will improve, making next time easier, and having their arousal rise more quickly between sessions as well.

Someone who starts lusty, e.g., Stacy Slutsky, (who being both PTA and the cabaret club owner is a good one to have on your side anyway) will be easier earlier, before your attractiveness/charisma scores have reached their full potential. I think April Raymund was also like this, except harder to find, and I believe now has a quest chain so is probably HasQuest-locked.

In my last few play-throughs (which were non-Hypno non-Drug except where necessary for quest chains) I never even needed to take someone on a date to progress them through to "In love", you could simply progressively move them up through the "Let's fuck" options until they were basically ready to jump you in a public place on-demand. Which is actually a problem because then you don't get the "come back to my place" option, and can take a surprise rep hit for being involved in a public strip-tease.

I haven't bothered with perfume, but grab some tanning oil and a razor for further slow Attractiveness gains.

It's possible you can get faster/better results from the dating system, but I honestly haven't used it much, mostly as a way to deal with a mistaken flirt click meaning I couldn't hit the 10 Relationship needed to unlock the relationship system. Also, I have a tendency to miss appointments in-game, and that can hurt the relationship quite a lot.

Quote from: squark on Nov 11, 2022, 07:00 PMNon-Hypno Seduction seems very difficult at least, virtually impossible at worst.
Given that even at max friendship (100), most of the NPCs will have a relationship score of 10.
Flirting only increases arousal and even then, by a miniscule amount (~2).

Anybody got any usable tips? I don't want to rely on Hypno or Drugs if it can be helped.

At that point you can ask for their phone number. Calling them up to just chat continues to improve relationship to the point where you can ask them on a date. The logic for them saying yes is different for in person ask and over the phone ask so try both.

Quote from: oratorio on Nov 13, 2022, 12:59 PMAt that point you can ask for their phone number. Calling them up to just chat continues to improve relationship to the point where you can ask them on a date. The logic for them saying yes is different for in person ask and over the phone ask so try both.

Calling them to chat increases relationship -- until it hits 10. After that and Friendship 100, it only increases Loyalty. At least, that's all it reports an increase to.
You can get their phone number at Friendship 30+.

The ones that want drugs are a little bit of a pain. I generally circumvent this by asking about their parents and their parents jobs. Gets the +10 bump but without the drug effect.

Quote from: squark on Nov 13, 2022, 04:18 PMThe ones that want drugs are a little bit of a pain. I generally circumvent this by asking about their parents and their parents jobs. Gets the +10 bump but without the drug effect.

Yeah, if you do all 7 flirts perfectly, you don't need to do all three levels of gifts to hit the 100 friendship/10 relationship in most cases, because there's a couple of other chats that give once-off friendship. As well as "What are your hobbies?", for adults, it's "Are you single?" (even if they're not), and for students it's "Who're your parents?" and "What do they do?". Some students don't have in-game parents so the option won't exist, which I suspect is an oversight. I think adults can also give points for "Are you a virgin?", but you already have to have a good relationship for that to work, and if they're not receptive, or you ask repeatedly, (or you were the one they lost their virginity with...), that'll cost you friendship.

In my last run, I triggered the Jeremy Hood encounter a few times, but taking the purse and returning it instead of learning lockpicking. Half the time, you end up with a new friend at about 35 friendship, who's then pretty easy to flirt up to 100 if you want without any gifts. (For some reason, they're never in the location at the end of the event, but always on the next location towards downtown, whose name escapes me. An oddity of how they're pulled into the event and then path back to where they're supposed to be at the next time-increment, I guess).

It's been a while since I played last, so it's possible I've misremembered some of the above details.

NPC's relationships:
1) do NPC interact with each other, and develop friendships/relationships without player input? Is it different for parents, students, and teachers?
2) what does the option to tell NPC to find love do?
3) can the player influence the relationship between two characters? How?

Quote from: chewbacc555 on Nov 22, 2022, 07:35 AMNPC's relationships:
1) do NPC interact with each other, and develop friendships/relationships without player input? Is it different for parents, students, and teachers?
2) what does the option to tell NPC to find love do?
3) can the player influence the relationship between two characters? How?

1) For parents and teachers, I don't really know for sure. Going to say "no". With students, there are random events that influence their relationship score with each other but I don't think that matters a damn. I remember using the debug console at one point with two students but when I asked "Are you single?" it always returned with "There is someone I like but I don't think he/she notices me."
I would like for some students to start as a couple - happens all the time in Middle and High Schools.
2) I believe its original purpose was to attempt to do the very thing I tried using the debug to do.
3) Outside of PTA support events (Hooter; Peter and Susan's Relationship scores do increase) I think that's not a thing we can do. And even then, nothing seems to happen between them.
Every so often I was expecting to see that Susan hot become pregnant with Peter's kid but nothing happened.

Hah, that last line there could be a blackmail route for Susan's (begrudging) PTA support if anybody was to write it.

how do you ask people out on a date?

Quote from: kikikoko on Nov 22, 2022, 05:24 PMhow do you ask people out on a date?

Over the phone. If the game considers them viable, there will be an option for it.

Quote from: chewbacc555 on Nov 22, 2022, 07:35 AM2) what does the option to tell NPC to find love do?

If they don't fall in love with you, then asking again later will cause them to tell about their, uh, experiences.

Hello! Could someone please explain to me how triggering random events works? Let's say I want to get a bunch of school events during the day, should I bother going in and out of classes all day hoping for one to trigger, or are there hidden timers preventing spamming of this very thing; is there an easy way to increase the triggering rate?

Quote from: Traison on Jan 05, 2023, 04:38 AMHello! Could someone please explain to me how triggering random events works? Let's say I want to get a bunch of school events during the day, should I bother going in and out of classes all day hoping for one to trigger, or are there hidden timers preventing spamming of this very thing; is there an easy way to increase the triggering rate?

Each event has its own triggering mechanism, depending on what the event is and who is involved. Most are set to recur every few days, but a handful also only have an X% chance to happen when checked (notably, the reputation-gaining events in the Park and Playground, and also the lottery event downtown).

So while you can hang out in classrooms all day every weekday and get events as soon as they are scheduled, you will not miss much if you take a day to instead pop events in Beach/Park/Onsen. Additionally, the scheduler does not distinguish between weekends and weekdays, so Mondays are always a good day for school events.

There's no way to increase the scheduling rate globally - you would have to go into each event in the editor and change them manually to happen more often.

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Is there a way to manually trigger Carl's quest in 1.10.40? It must have been a cheat mod or something, but I'm really far down corruption chains, and Carl's the only one I haven't been able to start.

So I couldn't find it in the search function and I really don't want to go trawling through the forum boards, but outside of being a shoutout to Assassination Classroom, what other function does Jelabitch serve? Does she have her own questline, because Nina can be used as the English teacher and obviously Keller is the "storyline" based sex ed teacher.

Quote from: Zaiaku on Jan 30, 2023, 10:43 AMSo I couldn't find it in the search function and I really don't want to go trawling through the forum boards, but outside of being a shoutout to Assassination Classroom, what other function does Jelabitch serve? Does she have her own questline, because Nina can be used as the English teacher and obviously Keller is the "storyline" based sex ed teacher.

Jelabitch doesn't have a questline attached to her, which means she can be corrupted using hypnosis/drugs without having to go through a long and potentially expensive questline (i.e. like Keller's $5,000 school basement).

Also, if you want to hit the default cap of 400 students you need to hire all 10 teachers.

Quote from: Calob on Jan 30, 2023, 12:56 PMAlso, if you want to hit the default cap of 400 students you need to hire all 10 teachers.

You can edit the Configuration file to allow for larger classrooms. I have mine set to 50.

i am really need some tips from relationship gain with adults and students, like:
How gain relationship without hypnosis and drugs, i know i can call to a date, but students u cant call to dates, i read the Slutzky is the most easy, but she dont accept, and i work out and shave always is possible.

i saw someone ask about if Andy questline is unfinished, i want to know the same, i am most in m/m content, and i do m/f content just because is needed.

Just with hipnosis and droping toys increase corruption? Because i am already in the cabaret event with culinary club, and corrupting Slutzky and the club president helps, right?

About the slave event, u can just have a girl, or can have a slave boy?

Sorry for so many questions ^^'

Quote from: richex on Feb 02, 2023, 04:45 AMi am really need some tips from relationship gain with adults and students, like:
How gain relationship without hypnosis and drugs, i know i can call to a date, but students u cant call to dates, i read the Slutzky is the most easy, but she dont accept, and i work out and shave always is possible.

I wrote up what worked for me at the time at https://henthighschool.net/hhs/gameplay-questions-38/msg2221/#msg2221, however I haven't tried the most recent release's changes to the flirting/present system, so it's possible it got harder with those changes. (Or easier...) At the time I wrote that, as long as all the flirts were done correctly, I'd never found a need to take anyone on dates to get a relationship to sexual.

One thing I didn't note at the time that might affect you is that if the target does not include the MC in their current sexual orientation, they will be harder to flirt with, and more likely to refuse an invitation even if you're clean, attractive, and they're aroused. It's basically a huge penalty to the "attraction" check (like being grungy), so you can still overcome this by being completely clean, very fit, and catching the desired NPC really turned on.

Apart from quest-driven "falls in love with MC" events, a brief poke around suggests sexual orientation will only change due to consensual, non-paid genital-only sex with someone they weren't oriented for. I suspect this is a legacy from when the sexual orientation values were boolean (and perhaps they still are for NPCs?) and could probably be made more nuanced than the current "One cock/trib and you're bi" approach.

But for now, turning someone bi is probably quite an annoying grind as you build them up to get to 4th base despite the penalty, as the kids say, and then suddenly they're gay for moleman attracted to everyone.

The other option is to play a very-small-breasted futanari, since everyone except hetero futas are sexually oriented towards futas. "Everyone loves futas" is also a bit coarse-grained, but I'm certainly not volunteering to rejig everything to make NPCs work on the same attraction-slider system that the MC uses (but only for arousal changes, I think?). It's possible a plan exists for this and just needs implementation, or perhaps such an idea has been rejected.

Quote from: richex on Feb 02, 2023, 04:45 AMJust with hipnosis and droping toys increase corruption? Because i am already in the cabaret event with culinary club, and corrupting Slutzky and the club president helps, right?

Individual corruption is hard to raise directly, I agree. One thing that works up to a point is witnessing a public sex act, e.g. messing with an uninhibited teacher while they are teaching, but that tends to also cost reputation. Also, if someone has a slavery fetish, giving them a slave collar will increase corruption gradually up to a certain level. There might also be some sex acts that raise corruption, I vaguely recall corrupting Stacey this way once. It's also possible in that case I gave up and used hypnosis.

From memory, the design is that corruption rises slowly, globally, to start with, but accelerates over time as more-corrupt people do more-corrupt things in front of more-corruptable people. You can help this by completing a few of the questlines, e.g. Sayako, or the Secret Panty Exchange club.

The only thing I recall having a painfully-high corruption requirement with no mechanism to reach it is the Cosplay Club's event series, and that's also the point where it's marked "TODO". The club presidents usually have multiple possible triggers, including hypnosis. That said, sometimes those triggers are harder to hit than corruption.

Quote from: TBBle on Feb 02, 2023, 11:51 AM

Quote from: richex on Feb 02, 2023, 04:45 AMi am really need some tips from relationship gain with adults and students, like:
How gain relationship without hypnosis and drugs, i know i can call to a date, but students u cant call to dates, i read the Slutzky is the most easy, but she dont accept, and i work out and shave always is possible.

I wrote up what worked for me at the time at https://henthighschool.net/hhs/gameplay-questions-38/msg2221/#msg2221, however I haven't tried the most recent release's changes to the flirting/present system, so it's possible it got harder with those changes. (Or easier...) At the time I wrote that, as long as all the flirts were done correctly, I'd never found a need to take anyone on dates to get a relationship to sexual.

I read all this topic before writing, i just needed some more specific info, thx.

I was wondering somethings, what are archtypes, sub-archtypes and personality? How their influence the characters? And mods can create new archtypes or there is any operation to test if x person has y archtype or sub-arthtype?

Quote from: richex on Feb 02, 2023, 06:38 PMI was wondering somethings, what are archtypes, sub-archtypes and personality? How their influence the characters? And mods can create new archtypes or there is any operation to test if x person has y archtype or sub-arthtype?

Archetypes and Personalities are the two axes on which a person's friendship-building actions (flirting and miniquests) can vary. New in 1.10.4.0 (https://henthighschool.net/index.php?msg=2552), a sub-archetype is just the combination of those two, used for unique hobby and miniquest filtering, that I can see. That version also added a bunch of new archetypes, going from five to 12.

The way it's implemented right now, adding new sub-archetypes (and hence adding new archetypes or personalities) would be hard in a mod, as they're handled by a couple of large hard-coded VEE files in FunctionLibrary/Population, so you'd have to override and replace at least those two, and perhaps any other places (I didn't look around too much).

The main extension point for this system is adding new mini-quests in ExtensionLibrary/Chat/FavorMiniquests. Each miniquest can exclude itself for particular people, based on any attribute, e.g., the "Request alcohol" favour rejects students who are not rebels or stoners.

I'll note that it looks like the newly-added archetypes in 1.10.4.0 were not added to the Flirt interaction or the 'Social Profile' system that it uses (looking at 1.10.4.2), so anyone with one of the new archetypes cannot successfully have their body complimented, or something insightful said about them, removing access to up to 40 points of friendship (and hence 4 relationship points) out of the 70 normally available by flirting. It looks like you can do all the applicable miniquests for a person, rather than  being hard-limited to three, but there's only 12 and many of them are archetype-limited, so I suspect the upshot here is that you can't actually get new-archetype NPCs up to 100 friendship/10 relationship in order to enable dating and sex.

I'll report that in the bug-report thread.

I do want to note the Personality and Archetype update is unfinished, as it was essentially the biggest thing that was delaying updates. Most likely will be finished going forward.

Quote from: richex on Feb 02, 2023, 04:45 AMi am really need some tips from relationship gain with adults and students, like:
How gain relationship without hypnosis and drugs, i know i can call to a date, but students u cant call to dates, i read the Slutzky is the most easy, but she dont accept, and i work out and shave always is possible.

Just with hipnosis and droping toys increase corruption? Because i am already in the cabaret event with culinary club, and corrupting Slutzky and the club president helps, right?

Sorry for so many questions ^^'

1. Talk to them. You can get friendship from asking various things at various points. Some things are safe at all times, such as asking about their family. Others require a certain level of friendship.
2. Ask if they need something then do it.
3. Flirt.
4. Once you get to 3 hearts of friendship, ask for their phone number.
5. Call them and have smalltalk. You can call them multiple times a day, if you wait a few hours between calls. You can max out friendship with this.

Increasing relationship can be much, much slower. Generally speaking, you need to do relationship stuff. Even if they don't accept your proposal, it might still slightly increase the relationship. Kissing and asking out on a date can either helpful or unhelpful (at low relationship) depending on the personality.

Weirdly, for some people asking out on a date will work after sex. This might be related to the afterglow effect reducing willpower, which leads me to my last tip.

Influence them. Reduce their willpower and inhibition, increase their lust and corruption. This is, in my opinion, what the game is about. Every subject they take will influence them in some way. Clubs will influence them in some way. PTA policies will influence them in some way. This is passive and applies to all students affected by it. And you can move students between classes, which makes it possible to create classes whose subjects are intended to "break" the students assigned to it in some way.

So, for example, you can add new students to a theology-heavy class to increase their respect for you, and then move them over to a class heavy in theoretical sex education and swimming to lose them up.

A student with very low levels of inhibition and willpower and high levels of lust and corruption will have sex with you without any previous level in friendship/relationship, and at the same time reject kissing and dating!

So, yeah, plan the curriculum of your classes carefully, and move students of interest (hehe) to tailored classes.

Beyond that, there's a whole bunch of possibilities, like dropping pornographic magazines, dildos and slave collars in locations such as the library or the changing rooms, having a library with the librarian for the related events, events in the park and forest, etc.

Quote from: richex on Feb 02, 2023, 04:45 AMAbout the slave event, u can just have a girl, or can have a slave boy?

Just girls. Honestly, I find the slave event a bit boring. Depending on how you handle it you can actually get to kidnap students for slaves... and turn them over to the slavers! Even though I don't like playing the slave route often -- too repetitive, imho --, I'd very much like to move on from rescuing+slaving a kidnapped student to perform the kidnapping myself when I do play that route.

Do npcs have sex with each other or any other interactions? if so is there way to look at a log for their interactions

Quote from: RATRTA on Mar 02, 2023, 05:47 PMDo npcs have sex with each other or any other interactions? if so is there way to look at a log for their interactions

Not that I've been able to find; they will, however, 'enjoy themselves' with items you give them (or leave lying about) - there will be a 'stat crawl' in the upper left; this will show who and what (and if you've handed out Futa drugs, their body changes will also show up).

what does purchasing the school fence and high wall do? I don't see them mentioned in the "JPS full guide" I use, nor did a search on these boards get any hits. From their vague description I'd expect them to maybe reduce or eliminate reputation losses for actions on campus? If they prevent the kidnapping event I can't use them. I love my slave farm

Quote from: dalzomo on Mar 10, 2023, 01:13 PMwhat does purchasing the school fence and high wall do?

They reduce reputation loss from some of the more-questionable uniforms. It's possible some events interact with them, e.g., reducing reputation loss or perhaps allowing something at lower inhibition, but I don't recall any specific such cases off-hand.

I don't believe they interfere with kidnapping, as they don't seem to prevent students climbing _out_.

Edit: I checked, the only event that is affected by them non-cosmetically is also simply reducing reputation loss when nude or nearly-nude students are having lunch in the schoolyard.

Is there a way to reset a character's questline?

Quote from: xoxo1001 on Mar 23, 2023, 03:39 PMIs there a way to reset a character's questline?

Not generically. Each questline is managed individually, so you'd have to use the debugger to reset a bunch of different things back to their original state, including rescheduling events and changing variables inside them.

So after having Practical Sex Ed. on the roster for months and not seeing any events specific to it like I did for Theoretical Sex Ed. and do for the Bondage class, I was looking at Practical Sex Ed. and noticed it has the note "this class is yet to be evaluated" in school management. What do I have to do to initiate this evaluation and I assume more events? IIRC the event to evaluate the Theoretical Sex Ed. class occurred when I was in my office, but I haven't seen any such event yet for PSE and I've been to my office loads of times

Quote from: dalzomo on Mar 31, 2023, 11:37 AMI was looking at Practical Sex Ed. and noticed it has the note "this class is yet to be evaluated" in school management. What do I have to do to initiate this evaluation and I assume more events?

Since you have Bondage class (which is enabled by the PSE in-class demo), this means you're only missing the final step in the PSE chain, which is triggered when you're in the hallway outside the PSE class while Samantha Keller is teaching it.

Note that this event requires 6 male and 6 female-or-futa students in the class; at least 2 of the females must be large-breasted non-special, and one male needs to be non-special. So if you've been filtering your school into massive gender imbalance or sorting classes by gender, or making wild use of the breast-reduction drugs, the event may not trigger.

Also, if the event tries to trigger but the class is not taught at all or isn't taught by Sam Keller, it won't check again for a week, so it's possible if you had another teacher teaching the class, putting Sam Keller back in charge will still require a week before it'll run.

A few of the "drop-in-on-class" events for PSE don't require this final step, but they also have their own requirements around content filter, student mix, school sex-event level, students not being in nude/bondage uniform, etc.

Quote from: TBBle on Apr 01, 2023, 04:36 PM

Quote from: dalzomo on Mar 31, 2023, 11:37 AMI was looking at Practical Sex Ed. and noticed it has the note "this class is yet to be evaluated" in school management. What do I have to do to initiate this evaluation and I assume more events?

Since you have Bondage class (which is enabled by the PSE in-class demo), this means you're only missing the final step in the PSE chain, which is triggered when you're in the hallway outside the PSE class while Samantha Keller is teaching it.

Note that this event requires 6 male and 6 female-or-futa students in the class; at least 2 of the females must be large-breasted non-special, and one male needs to be non-special. So if you've been filtering your school into massive gender imbalance or sorting classes by gender, or making wild use of the breast-reduction drugs, the event may not trigger.

Also, if the event tries to trigger but the class is not taught at all or isn't taught by Sam Keller, it won't check again for a week, so it's possible if you had another teacher teaching the class, putting Sam Keller back in charge will still require a week before it'll run.

A few of the "drop-in-on-class" events for PSE don't require this final step, but they also have their own requirements around content filter, student mix, school sex-event level, students not being in nude/bondage uniform, etc.

Thanks. I don't filter my school by anything special except having most of the quest-related and special-to-me (like Annette and my slaves) in class 1. But none of the other classes are filtered, all of them are roughly equal in male:female ratio aside from a few futa in each, and they all have PSE at some point during the week. I haven't given anyone any body mod drugs except Melkers for her quest chain. Samantha Keller has been the only teacher for TSE and PSE and now Bondage

I'll start stalking the hallways I guess. Does it require a specific uniform policy because I had progressed to nude uniform and only recently regressed it back to normal in a check for missed events with plans to go back to sexy and maybe bondage eventually. I wasn't getting any events that seemed specific to Anatomy class either and I've had the option to pass various model policies for a while. I thought they were supposed to be initiated by the teacher so I thought I was missing stuff there too and read stuff here and in the guide that uniform policy fuckery could muck things up

Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 01, 2023, 10:16 PMI'll start stalking the hallways I guess. Does it require a specific uniform policy because I had progressed to nude uniform and only recently regressed it back to normal in a check for missed events with plans to go back to sexy and maybe bondage eventually.

Yeah, nude uniform blocks a _lot_ of events, including some quest chains, because the images and text generally refer to clothing. I'm not sure if bondage uniform is as-heavy a blocker, but I did notice it blocks the final PSE chain event, and I expect it's likely to block a bunch of events too.

Apart from those two, generally any other uniform (free choice, normal in a range of colours, sexy) will be allowed for events, usually picturing a fairly standard uniform unless the event is uniform-level specific or possibly has multiple image variants.

AFAIK no quest-chain events rely on nude or bondage uniform, and due to the nature of how images are sourced and text is written, it'd be a massive effort to support those uniforms in existing events, so I doubt this'll ever change. It'd be nice if there was a way to let players know that a chain can't progress due to uniform (or other) school policy, perhaps that could be added to the smartphone notes. (Although I don't remember in this case if PSE has smartphone notes...)

Alternatively, maybe a game option to ignore nude/bondage uniform checks in events, i.e. a player-choice to accept that students will appear in events wearing uniforms they aren't actually wearing in-game. For non-quest events, this would be fairly easy to implement as there's a shared function that handles this check...

Hmm, sounds like a feasible mod...

This is killing me. I haven't given the breast reduction drug to anyone, but since you mentioned it I've been paying attention and I don't see a lot of large breasts in my school at all. What even is considered "large" in this context anyway? I finished the Lindsey Melkers quest so she's got some honkers but she's the only one of her kind. If I just start giving a few girls in every class the highest tier breast growth drug will that do the trick eventually?

The actual filter here is sizes 5-10 (possible range is 0-10) while the default female student template generates in the range 1-6, so this should match about a third of the generated female student population. Felicia Titsbig, Ginny Nightshade, and Mandy Meyers all have size 5 breasts and are non-special (AFAIR), so would meet this criteria, and can also serve as a visual reference.

Lindsey Melkers' breasts start at 6, and end up at 8 (This chain needs some work... The first treatment still leaves her unchanged at 6, despite the text) so she'll also count for this event.

Quote from: TBBle on Apr 06, 2023, 11:48 PMThe actual filter here is sizes 5-10 (possible range is 0-10) while the default female student template generates in the range 1-6, so this should match about a third of the generated female student population. Felicia Titsbig, Ginny Nightshade, and Mandy Meyers all have size 5 breasts and are non-special (AFAIR), so would meet this criteria, and can also serve as a visual reference.

Lindsey Melkers' breasts start at 6, and end up at 8 (This chain needs some work... The first treatment still leaves her unchanged at 6, despite the text) so she'll also count for this event.

Before the update I did manage to get the event to fire by distributing breast growth drugs to a few girls in a class. So thanks :D

I has a new question. Do the goals that you pick at the beginning of your game actually do anything? Like, if I pick the incest goal, will I eventually be able to get the Hooters and Hardmans and other families to actively fuck or is it just like, handwaved as assumed to be happening offscreen, or is it something to justify the principal's relationship with their sibling?

They don't do much right now. Off-hand the only one I'm aware of is that the Incest goal affects the flow of the Sayako's event text at one point (as does the Incest fetish), but that doesn't meaningfully affect the event's gameplay effects right now.

A quick check in 1.10.05 shows this system being mostly cosmetic at the moment, I don't think victory conditions are ever evaluated, or even well-defined enough to be evaluated, e.g., Futa Slavery would require a bunch of mechanics that just don't exist in the game events. It would make more sense to be a Futa Cure goal, that could play off the Sierra Hardman quest line, as could the Futa Supremacy goal. Neither does though.

Is there any way to alter a character's sexuality in a direction other than toward the MC's gender?

Quote from: Ruffra on Apr 11, 2023, 12:08 AMIs there any way to alter a character's sexuality in a direction other than toward the MC's gender?

I don't know if this still applies to 1.10.5.1 (I'm sure it does) but in previous builds you could Debug it to have NPCs in love with each other but nothing ever happens. Also, this response:
"I do like someone but I don't think they even look at me." which is honestly heartbreaking.

So, yes but there's no point.

I'm not sure if this ever happens in the base game, but if two NPCs have an uninduced sexual interaction, their attraction towards each other should grow (for some possible interactions, at least). Before 1.10.5.0, this would have been an instant "Guess I'm bi now" but from the release notes, this has been made more-gradual.

That said, if there are NPC-NPC sex events in the game, I suspect they're already checking gender-attraction match when choosing participants.

Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 06, 2023, 05:01 PMThis is killing me. I haven't given the breast reduction drug to anyone, but since you mentioned it I've been paying attention and I don't see a lot of large breasts in my school at all. What even is considered "large" in this context anyway? I finished the Lindsey Melkers quest so she's got some honkers but she's the only one of her kind. If I just start giving a few girls in every class the highest tier breast growth drug will that do the trick eventually?

But have you done something that might, say, make the girls lose weight? Such as diet food in the cafeteria?

Quote from: dcsobral on Apr 16, 2023, 03:09 AM

Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 06, 2023, 05:01 PMThis is killing me. I haven't given the breast reduction drug to anyone, but since you mentioned it I've been paying attention and I don't see a lot of large breasts in my school at all. What even is considered "large" in this context anyway? I finished the Lindsey Melkers quest so she's got some honkers but she's the only one of her kind. If I just start giving a few girls in every class the highest tier breast growth drug will that do the trick eventually?

But have you done something that might, say, make the girls lose weight? Such as diet food in the cafeteria?

I did (and do in my new game) have diet food selected. I was not aware it might lower breast sizes so severely. I was able to trigger the event by distributing breast growth pills so I'm good now

This is weird. I have Sally Proudbottom at Friendship 34 (I got her a DVD that was NEARLY her favourite), three gifts and she still refuses to give me her number ("I hardly know you!").
Did I boob it up by NOT checking the Debug for her favourite DVD?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Apr 18, 2023, 07:30 PMThis is weird. I have Sally Proudbottom at Friendship 34 (I got her a DVD that was NEARLY her favourite), three gifts and she still refuses to give me her number ("I hardly know you!").
Did I boob it up by NOT checking the Debug for her favourite DVD?

I've actually had that happen to me, I was able to fix it by helping her relationship to 3. Of course I didn't get her friendship to 35 so that might be it too.

Quote from: TBBle on Apr 02, 2023, 04:36 AM

Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 01, 2023, 10:16 PMI'll start stalking the hallways I guess. Does it require a specific uniform policy because I had progressed to nude uniform and only recently regressed it back to normal in a check for missed events with plans to go back to sexy and maybe bondage eventually.

Yeah, nude uniform blocks a _lot_ of events, including some quest chains, because the images and text generally refer to clothing. I'm not sure if bondage uniform is as-heavy a blocker, but I did notice it blocks the final PSE chain event, and I expect it's likely to block a bunch of events too.

Apart from those two, generally any other uniform (free choice, normal in a range of colours, sexy) will be allowed for events, usually picturing a fairly standard uniform unless the event is uniform-level specific or possibly has multiple image variants.

AFAIK no quest-chain events rely on nude or bondage uniform, and due to the nature of how images are sourced and text is written, it'd be a massive effort to support those uniforms in existing events, so I doubt this'll ever change. It'd be nice if there was a way to let players know that a chain can't progress due to uniform (or other) school policy, perhaps that could be added to the smartphone notes. (Although I don't remember in this case if PSE has smartphone notes...)

Alternatively, maybe a game option to ignore nude/bondage uniform checks in events, i.e. a player-choice to accept that students will appear in events wearing uniforms they aren't actually wearing in-game. For non-quest events, this would be fairly easy to implement as there's a shared function that handles this check...

Hmm, sounds like a feasible mod...

This would be a really good mod. Maybe also a Free uniform option where students can use any of the unlocked uniforms.

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Apr 18, 2023, 07:30 PMThis is weird. I have Sally Proudbottom at Friendship 34 (I got her a DVD that was NEARLY her favourite), three gifts and she still refuses to give me her number ("I hardly know you!").
Did I boob it up by NOT checking the Debug for her favourite DVD?

35 Friendship should be enough, so yeah, getting the movie slightly more-correct would probably have gotten you over the hump. Having her stay the night also unlocks this.

Otherwise, 60 relationship or loyalty will do work too, although I think 60 relationship with only 34 friendship would only happen due to quest-driven effects, e.g. Beth Manili falling in love with the MC through the power of math, not friendship.

I forgot, but raises Charisma after you're done with the book?

Quote from: Zaiaku on Apr 21, 2023, 11:06 PMI forgot, but raises Charisma after you're done with the book?

Not sure what raises Charisma post-book nowadays but time was non-hypno kisses would do it.

Chatting during dates and successful kissing during chat both increase Charisma past the book level. It also looks like Anastasia Goth's chat and hacking training can boost Charisma too, so that's probably the more-effective method once you have hired her.

I forgot, but how do i go back on event chains in the debugger?

Dont know where to put this, so ill try here.
Im currently stuck at Sherylin Ambrose Quest. According to Debug i should be at Step 4 - "Schoolyard (encounter lvl 3+). Requires random encounters. Found phone, confronted."
The issue is that the event wont launch. At first i thought i need to have events with her at schoolyard until some "phone event" launches, now i think i need to encounter her in city several times and then she either drops the phone in city, or at schoolyard. The issue is that none of this is working. Ive spent ingame months on schoolyard every day, then reloaded save and spent another few months switching between places where i knew i meet her (standing there all day, doint the 10 minute skips) and schoolyard, but all ive been getting are her standard encounter events all over again. I dont know if im doing something wrong.
I even think the event might be broken, since i got her standard "met at school schoolyard with her friend and remote" event and then realized its actually Saturday so noone is at school.

1. Is it possible to see futas as futas, i.e. with green color, from the moment they appear? I hope there is a way...

2. Is it possible to 'unspecial' some special characters? So many things to guess about them* and so few ways to interact with them...

* Using the PI advices doesn't help much.

Quote from: a_principal on Apr 29, 2023, 10:12 AM1. Is it possible to see futas as futas, i.e. with green color, from the moment they appear? I hope there is a way...

2. Is it possible to 'unspecial' some special characters? So many things to guess about them* and so few ways to interact with them...

* Using the PI advices doesn't help much.

The way I understand it, if your principal has Futanari as one of their fetishes from character creation, that's what causes futas to appear as female (pink name) until you suss them out

Quote from: a_principal on Apr 29, 2023, 10:12 AM2. Is it possible to 'unspecial' some special characters? So many things to guess about them* and so few ways to interact with them...

* Using the PI advices doesn't help much.

Barring bugs, special characters will be quest-related, and will be un"specialed" by either completing or early-aborting their quest line. Only a few have early-abort options in their questlines though.

Quests are started either from the PI, or other events happening as you wander around the world (mostly the school, in fact) and the world gets more corrupt and less inhibited. Some quests also depend on particular classes or school expansions. Once a quest is started, your smartphone journal should guide you towards the next step.

It's not clear exactly what you wanted here, if you feel there's too many special characters, or you can't find the quests, or if you're looking for a button to remove the "special" status for a particular reason.

Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 29, 2023, 11:07 AM

Quote from: a_principal on Apr 29, 2023, 10:12 AM1. Is it possible to see futas as futas, i.e. with green color, from the moment they appear? I hope there is a way...

2. Is it possible to 'unspecial' some special characters? So many things to guess about them* and so few ways to interact with them...

* Using the PI advices doesn't help much.

The way I understand it, if your principal has Futanari as one of their fetishes from character creation, that's what causes futas to appear as female (pink name) until you suss them out

So, it's my fault!?  ??? If I didn't say I'm not a great futa fan, they would appear as they are and not as females?  :'(

Quote from: TBBle on Apr 29, 2023, 12:38 PM

Quote from: a_principal on Apr 29, 2023, 10:12 AM2. Is it possible to 'unspecial' some special characters? So many things to guess about them* and so few ways to interact with them...

* Using the PI advices doesn't help much.

Barring bugs, special characters will be quest-related, and will be un"specialed" by either completing or early-aborting their quest line. Only a few have early-abort options in their questlines though.

Quests are started either from the PI, or other events happening as you wander around the world (mostly the school, in fact) and the world gets more corrupt and less inhibited. Some quests also depend on particular classes or school expansions. Once a quest is started, your smartphone journal should guide you towards the next step.

It's not clear exactly what you wanted here, if you feel there's too many special characters, or you can't find the quests, or if you're looking for a button to remove the "special" status for a particular reason.

I'm okay with the two options!  ;D  A button to remove the "special" status would be very welcome, but I really don't understand how to make the relationships evolve with so few interactions...
But maybe you help me much: I confess I very rarely consult the smartphone journal... :-[ I have to leave right now and look at it!  8)

Quote from: a_principal on Apr 29, 2023, 03:49 PMA button to remove the "special" status would be very welcome,

A mod could be made that does that (or you can do it directly in the debugger), but it then has potential to break any questlines that depend on statistics or relationships advancing via the quest.

I suspect a few people would be interested in a more "sandbox" mode, which disables various questlines and unspecials the relevant PCs. That would be a fair bit of work, but still feasible as a mod (particularly if it was only at new-game, not trying to support existing saves). The main complication is that some questlines, e.g. Sam Keller's, unlock other school features.

Quote from: a_principal on Apr 29, 2023, 03:49 PMbut I really don't understand how to make the relationships evolve with so few interactions...

Quest-driven NPCs generally evolve their relationship through the quest-chain, that's why the various interaction systems are locked off while they are flagged. The quests often (but not always) will leave you high relationship and/or friendship; several end with the NPC in love with the MC, and others deliver high loyalty: PTA members usually end up promising you support for PTA proposals as well, and I expect that to be an easier/cheaper path than fully corrupting them manually would be.

Once you complete an NPC's quest chain, the are unspecialed and you get all the usual interactions made available again, if you want to build the friendship or relationship still further.

Futanari colour discovery is a setting under Map > Options > Advanced, as per _README_GAMEPLAY.txt.

You do not want to disable an NPC's special status, as that will turn their PD into a generic one.
IsSpecial is otherwise only used for filtering away NPCs for certain random events, and internal mechanics.

HasQuest is something different, it's what's blocking most interactions, and can also be disabled via Map > Options.
Only real downside is that some quests might skip stages, or progress faster.

Yeah, I knew I was wrong not asking before. Many thanks to dalzomo, TBBle and barteke22. For the futanari color, I'll have a look at Map>Options as soon as possible.

You're right, I absolutely don't want "special" persons to become "generic" (much more appropriate term than "normal", I'll try to remember it). I don't want to break everything, but for instance, winning only 0.3 relationship point each time I pay a visit to a certain secretary make me think the game is going to last forever... or even more :o

Quote from: barteke22 on Apr 29, 2023, 04:56 PMYou do not want to disable an NPC's special status, as that will turn their PD into a generic one.
IsSpecial is otherwise only used for filtering away NPCs for certain random events, and internal mechanics.

HasQuest is something different, it's what's blocking most interactions, and can also be disabled via Map > Options.

Sorry, I should have been clearer, but I've been talking about HasQuest when I said "specialness", i.e. the thing that puts the "!" on the UI and blocks some interactions, for consistency with the original question. The term "HasQuest" isn't actually player-visible anywhere outside the dev tools/debugger AFAIK, so I expected it might be confusing in this context.

That said, I was totally unaware you could disable that in-game already. Oops.

Where i can get drugs?

Quote from: Navigator on May 10, 2023, 12:21 PMWhere i can get drugs?

You have to manufacture them yourself. Once you have opened a Chemistry classroom at the school, the path should become clear.

Quote from: Navigator on May 10, 2023, 12:21 PMWhere i can get drugs?

Buy the chemistry classroom expansion in manage school. After it is built, inspect the room and you'll get the idea to rebuild the lab. Do that. After IT is built, inspect the lab and you'll find a chemistry textbook. Read that every day until it stops giving you points. You should be at or near 20 chemistry skill. Go to the lab and research until you're over 20 skill, when you'll get the option to "create drug." Do that. After that, it's just a loop of raising your chemistry skill through research until you can create drug again. "Produce drug" is your option to create more of the drugs you've already discovered

Which way is the fastest to reduce inhabitation and increase lust>?

Quote from: Navigator on May 11, 2023, 11:47 AMWhich way is the fastest to reduce inhabitation and increase lust>?

Try dumping a load of drugs (particularly the Slut Maker) or Sex Toys in the classrooms.
Softcore porn mags also work in the beginning. But they eventually run out of effect so if you go that route, you'll eventually have to start dumping something harder.

After we find about S.A. where do you go next for the April Raymund? It says to talk to them about having S.A join the school but where is that exactly?

Nevermind i figured it out, i guess the sierra event was overriding it when i entered my office.

Is hacking actually used for something? Beyond making my eyes sting

from the top of my head I recall 4 characters chains who need hacking to progress

Quote from: gargle on May 13, 2023, 10:00 AMfrom the top of my head I recall 4 characters chains who need hacking to progress

There's

Spoiler

Jessica Underwood, Shimakaze

[close]

and who else?

In my latest game apparently there are no nuns at the church. At first I thought I was just not checking at the right times, but I've gone at all hours including during service on Sunday and nada. I don't like that being up to luck, so what would I need to edit to ensure my game generates a few nuns on all future runs?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on May 13, 2023, 08:47 PM

Quote from: gargle on May 13, 2023, 10:00 AMfrom the top of my head I recall 4 characters chains who need hacking to progress

There's

Spoiler

Jessica Underwood, Shimakaze

[close]

and who else?

Spoiler

Annette...perhaps just 3...

[close]

Does anyone know how to debug corruption stat in the updated game?

Quote from: HELLO22 on May 17, 2023, 09:54 AMDoes anyone know how to debug corruption stat in the updated game?

What, you mean like cheat it?
Type ADD STAT FOR GROUP into the debug command window and you'll see a list of groups you can apply it to.
If you're trying to apply it to one person in particular, find them in the appropriate dropdown list.
Or, you go the command window way with individuals as well (Using Felicia as an example):
ADD STAT FOR Felicia_Titsbig TO Corruption, 5. If it returns an error, try it without the comma.
Note that the debug window is NOT case-sensitive. You don't need to ALLCAPS it.

Be careful with debugging stats. They can break the game if advanced too quickly.

I found a mention that most of the game expects the principal to be male. If you're a futa, does that count as 'male'? As in, are you locked out of quests and events if you're not specifically male?

Quote from: ajiibrubf on May 20, 2023, 03:11 PMI found a mention that most of the game expects the principal to be male. If you're a futa, does that count as 'male'? As in, are you locked out of quests and events if you're not specifically male?

No, futa doesn't count as male. Many of the events are designed around specific art sets, and require matching PCs/NPCs.

I will note that generally quest-chain coverage for hetero futas and gay/bi female principals is pretty good. I can't think of any quest chains or even random event types that fail or are locked-out for these groups off-hand.

There's larger gaps in coverage for gay male/futa principles and hetero female principals as several quest lines are built around direct sexual interactions with female students. Some allow use of a stand-in, e.g., I recall Peter Hooter can be a substitute-penis for a hetero female principle in one questline, but I believe that is the exception rather than the norm.

Quote from: TBBle on May 20, 2023, 04:10 PMI will note that generally quest-chain coverage for hetero futas and gay/bi female principals is pretty good. I can't think of any quest chains or even random event types that fail or are locked-out for these groups off-hand.

Are Basement Slaves still locked to Male Principals (and brown-haired Female students)?

Does anyone know the requirements to start the wrestling club?

Quote from: HELLO22 on May 21, 2023, 01:04 AMDoes anyone know the requirements to start the wrestling club?

I think that got dropped when the Carl Walker chain got rewritten. At least I remember reading something like that in one of the patch notes...

Quote from: blumph on May 21, 2023, 12:06 AMAre Basement Slaves still locked to Male Principals (and brown-haired Female students)?

The missing girl is currently always a black-haired female student whose parents do not have jobs (to avoid messing the world up if the family leaves town), but I am unaware of any principal-gender-based restrictions. I'm pretty sure even back in the 1.9 release, I did that quest-line with a futa principal, and on examination, the basement event has paths for male, futa, and female principals.

Arright, so I thought I'd try the "make him my toy" branch with Peter again. I recall the last time I tried it I thought it was taking forever to finish corrupting him and begin working on Susan. And it is. It's the end of March and I began the Hooter quests immediately on start of game. DOES it ever progress past playing with Peter? Journal is at "talked him into some one-on-one time in my office" and "for now just exploring my options" entries. I still have the Susan Hooter in her panties pictures, but I've given the panties themselves to Peter to wear during the toy with options. He doesn't have them in his inventory, though he does have stat changes every midnight so I assume he is wearing them "until I ask for them back" (which doesn't appear to be an option?) and uses them nightly like a sex toy

Going the toy route with Peter is coded to require over 20(!) trainings before the quest moves on to the next part, regardless of his stats. The good news is that you'll get at least 40 points of Corruption increase on him from all the training, plus all the usual effects of sexing him 20 times.

The bad news is that going the ally route just puts 25 corruption points on him instantly instead, along with -40 inhibition and 35 loyalty. Additionally, if you get the 'he's ready for the next step' message when 'training' him, you make NO quest progress, you just get the stats up from sexing him.

Quote from: Calob on Jun 06, 2023, 10:25 PMGoing the toy route with Peter is coded to require over 20(!) trainings before the quest moves on to the next part, regardless of his stats. The good news is that you'll get at least 40 points of Corruption increase on him from all the training, plus all the usual effects of sexing him 20 times.

The bad news is that going the ally route just puts 25 corruption points on him instantly instead, along with -40 inhibition and 35 loyalty. Additionally, if you get the 'he's ready for the next step' message when 'training' him, you make NO quest progress, you just get the stats up from sexing him.

well that's a pita. Thanks. Looks like I'll be starting another new game lol

Question: Having good terms with common friends with a specific RNG Character, improves the interactions with this person?

Case Scenario: Someone that the principal engages to, A, is friends with X, Y, and Z characters. Lets say, the principal is in good terms with X and Y.

Will this established relationship improve the interactions with A, who's also friends with X and Y (and to any other character C who are friends with either X, Y or both)?

Following the walkthrough, I've advanced in Hooter's quest to the point where I got her panties. Got a spy cam as well, but have been trying night after night for the past game week to plant them in Peter's room, but no such option is available. Also tried to use both the panties and the spy cam, to no effect. Do I need to trigger an event after breaking in? Could something be blocking such event? Has something changed on this quest that's not in the walkthrough yet? The game journal tells me that Peter would love to get his hands on the panties, and that I've come up with a plan... Missed something? Something I need to do prior to breaking in that would trigger an event? Maybe I need to buy another camera? Don't remember if I had this spy cam before getting the panties - although I think I didn't, and purchased it afterwards, but I'm not sure. Is it worth buying another to see if that's the missing step?

Thanks!

Quote from: atonier on Jun 14, 2023, 10:36 AMFollowing the walkthrough, I've advanced in Hooter's quest to the point where I got her panties. Got a spy cam as well, but have been trying night after night for the past game week to plant them in Peter's room, but no such option is available. Also tried to use both the panties and the spy cam, to no effect. Do I need to trigger an event after breaking in? Could something be blocking such event? Has something changed on this quest that's not in the walkthrough yet? The game journal tells me that Peter would love to get his hands on the panties, and that I've come up with a plan... Missed something? Something I need to do prior to breaking in that would trigger an event? Maybe I need to buy another camera? Don't remember if I had this spy cam before getting the panties - although I think I didn't, and purchased it afterwards, but I'm not sure. Is it worth buying another to see if that's the missing step?

Thanks!

you say night after night. Go during the day when nobody is home. Once you enter his room it should auto fire. I do it on the first Friday. I don't know if you can plant it on the weekend, assuming you're lucky enough to have nobody home

Quote from: dalzomo on Jun 14, 2023, 11:03 AMyou say night after night. Go during the day when nobody is home. Once you enter his room it should auto fire. I do it on the first Friday. I don't know if you can plant it on the weekend, assuming you're lucky enough to have nobody home

Thanks - wouldn't have tried it, if you can believe me. Was probably roleplaying too much, only tried to break in when nobody was on the street to witness, which only happened at night!

Meanwhile, I may have screwed up with the cheerleader club uniform - read the walkthrough, but not thoroughly, it seemed like the sexy uniform was a good choice (for spy cam profits) but they're "not ready" and hate it. Is there a cheat I can use - savegame editor, console command? - to swap the type of uniform I purchased to the normal one? I'd love to avoid having to restart the game because of this, and I don't have any remaining savegame from before I made the purchase. And will the request for a new uniform repeat in the future and allow me to update it - once the students' stats are compatible?

Quote from: atonier on Jun 14, 2023, 09:05 PM

Quote from: dalzomo on Jun 14, 2023, 11:03 AMyou say night after night. Go during the day when nobody is home. Once you enter his room it should auto fire. I do it on the first Friday. I don't know if you can plant it on the weekend, assuming you're lucky enough to have nobody home

Thanks - wouldn't have tried it, if you can believe me. Was probably roleplaying too much, only tried to break in when nobody was on the street to witness, which only happened at night!

Meanwhile, I may have screwed up with the cheerleader club uniform - read the walkthrough, but not thoroughly, it seemed like the sexy uniform was a good choice (for spy cam profits) but they're "not ready" and hate it. Is there a cheat I can use - savegame editor, console command? - to swap the type of uniform I purchased to the normal one? I'd love to avoid having to restart the game because of this, and I don't have any remaining savegame from before I made the purchase. And will the request for a new uniform repeat in the future and allow me to update it - once the students' stats are compatible?

I don't know anything about savegame editing, but if you choose "I was just joking" when the cheer captain reacts with shock you should be able to go buy the other uniform right away. Your initial investment will be lost but you don't have to restart the game

Is there a breakdown of the advantages and disadvantages of the two mayoral candidates? I'm guessing if you don't accept Fontaine's offer to skip the queue she won't get the extra votes from being seen with the "respectable" principal, so is that the deciding factor, rather than just your own vote? In any case, there is no reference to this event in the walkthrough, but it makes sense that it comes to play in the end game, once you're able to extend your influence further than the school...

Quote from: atonier on Jun 15, 2023, 08:54 PMIs there a breakdown of the advantages and disadvantages of the two mayoral candidates? I'm guessing if you don't accept Fontaine's offer to skip the queue she won't get the extra votes from being seen with the "respectable" principal, so is that the deciding factor, rather than just your own vote? In any case, there is no reference to this event in the walkthrough, but it makes sense that it comes to play in the end game, once you're able to extend your influence further than the school...

Right now, there's no impact from your visit to the Council meeting or who you vote in as Mayor; it's a stub of a stub ATM.

Does the Willpower stat have any meaning for the player character? I see many references to it on the walkthrough, but it's always a check against an NPC's willpower. Is there any disadvantage to taking a nude photo in your bathroom (one each day, or as many as you can) for a stamina boost?

Also, what can you do if you start the missing girl quest early in the game, and don't have enough stamina and haven't started Keller's quest to get the sleeping device - which means that, considering the time it takes for the private investigator to kickstart her quest, I won't have the device within the 2 week time limit to find the missing girl? Will there be a malus to failing that quest? Can I start it again later on? Are there other ways to train stamina, besides pumping at the gym and that daily nude photo?

You will eventually get a text from her parents that she was released. She'll take a huge hit to her Loyalty, Happiness, and a few other stats IIRC but also gain a lot of Corruption. It may be possible to work out every day plus drink a lot of water and jerk off a ton to raise your Stamina to the required amount (like, something over 60 I think?) in time to complete the quest but I usually don't worry about it. I'll take the Corruption. If you don't want anyone to be kidnapped just stay and keep her company when the "girl is sitting outside" event fires. It will fire again some time after the current missing girl is returned, or some time after you keep her company and prevent it

Hi All, I'm new to the game. Its fantastic!!! I just have one question. How do I hide the Text bar to fully see the "Action" photos?

Quote from: dalzomo on Jun 18, 2023, 10:07 PMYou will eventually get a text from her parents that she was released. She'll take a huge hit to her Loyalty, Happiness, and a few other stats IIRC but also gain a lot of Corruption. It may be possible to work out every day plus drink a lot of water and jerk off a ton to raise your Stamina to the required amount (like, something over 60 I think?) in time to complete the quest but I usually don't worry about it. I'll take the Corruption. If you don't want anyone to be kidnapped just stay and keep her company when the "girl is sitting outside" event fires. It will fire again some time after the current missing girl is returned, or some time after you keep her company and prevent it

Thank you! I ended up cheating with the console just to make through this one, and will focus on developing stamina going forward (consoled it back to its previous level after the deed was done). Apparently, helping her will gives you a good reputation boost (though not immediate) and a boost to school happiness and loyalty, though at a high cost to inhibition. It's a high cost indeed but maybe worth it in an early game? Your option sounds good as well and I'll try it next time. Also, would be interesting to see what other outcomes there may be that aren't fully described in the walkthrough, such as turning over the case to the police after you find the back alley (probably it's just another "abort" option that neither gives or takes anything? Will find out).

I'm wondering, why is it that some events feature generic girls, such as "girl in the changing room", "cute girl", "jet ski girl" - while at other times, them same events (apparently) feature actual NPCs? (I'm only sure I've seen the jet ski and fashion store changing room events feature both generic and named NPCs, wonder if the same applies to other events). When it's a generic name, does it mean the bonuses to inhibition, lust, etc are "wasted", or that they're given to an unspecified NPC, that for some reason is anonymized, but still exists in the game?

Quote from: atonier on Jun 19, 2023, 08:22 AMI'm wondering, why is it that some events feature generic girls, such as "girl in the changing room", "cute girl", "jet ski girl" - while at other times, them same events (apparently) feature actual NPCs? (I'm only sure I've seen the jet ski and fashion store changing room events feature both generic and named NPCs, wonder if the same applies to other events). When it's a generic name, does it mean the bonuses to inhibition, lust, etc are "wasted", or that they're given to an unspecified NPC, that for some reason is anonymized, but still exists in the game?

These events select a person first, and then check to see if the PC 'knows' that person by them either being a student/staff, or having any meaningful prior relation (via the 'relationship' stat).

So if you see a generic name, it's almost certainly a townie and not someone important (though it may be, for instance, a teacher you haven't hired yet).

Thanks, that clears it (and makes sense)!

I got an event where a movie team spokesperson requests to shoot a movie in the school precinct during the event, then the same person turns up showing it was a porn movie and blackmailing to prevent it from being shared. Is this vanilla, or a mod such as Lexville? No mention in the walkthrough. I'd love some spoiler to know if either option (to go along with the blackmail, or to refuse it) will have consequences in the future, other than the immediate hit to finances of reputation? (If this is mod related, if I knew which mod, I'd post the question in the respective page).

Hired Keller and purchased the computer room upgrade. Assigned her to the following classes: Computer Science, Economics, Math, School Sport and Theoretical Sex Education. Investigated her, called her to the principal's office and bribed her. Purchased the basement. According to the walkthrough, I'm expected to tell her to monitor computers in the classroom, so I've been chasing her from class to class trying to fire an event, or get a special dialogue, with no success. When I go to the basement, it's an empty room (with bars). I don't recall if I gave her the 1000 bucks she said she required right when she mentioned it, or if I need to spend them somewhere else. Do I have to go shopping? Nothing more is stated on the walkthrough, and this is what the journal says "I have fulfilled my end of the bargain, and expect she'll fullfil hers", "might just have to seize on any other opportunities"...

Quote from: Preston4134 on Jun 19, 2023, 03:53 AMHi All, I'm new to the game. Its fantastic!!! I just have one question. How do I hide the Text bar to fully see the "Action" photos?

Hit "H" or right-click. Right-click is mentioned in the help, but "H" is probably not documented anywhere. Ren'Py games usually have both of these shortcuts, so they were probably just inherited across from the beginning.

Quote from: atonier on Jun 20, 2023, 07:15 AMI got an event where a movie team spokesperson requests to shoot a movie in the school precinct during the event, then the same person turns up showing it was a porn movie and blackmailing to prevent it from being shared. Is this vanilla, or a mod such as Lexville?

It's from the base game. From memory, that event has no definitely-positive outcome unless you flat-out refuse the meeting on the first stage to avoid it entirely (it'll repeat later, I believe). You just get to choose which of the possible negative outcomes you will wear, in exchange for the initial cash boost. I always refuse it.

Side-note: I've seen a walkthough mentioned a few times, but I'm not aware of which one is being referred to. I know there was one posted a few months ago (soon after the new board was created) but it was years out-of-date (1.8 or 1.9) and a bunch of stuff had been changed/fixed since then.

Quote from: TBBle on Jun 20, 2023, 01:05 PMSide-note: I've seen a walkthough mentioned a few times, but I'm not aware of which one is being referred to. I know there was one posted a few months ago (soon after the new board was created) but it was years out-of-date (1.8 or 1.9) and a bunch of stuff had been changed/fixed since then.

The walkthrough I know of and use is the one linked here (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/a1fox3-f95zone-to-walkthrough-guide/msg1240/#msg1240), which was made for 1.9.5 - so, possibly, some things have changed since it was written and posted. Since you commented on that post, I assume it's the one you were referring to... I do try to check the journal in game to find any clue that contradicts what's written, but so far it's been a good match. Made my previous post about Keller after checking the smartphone journal, where it says it should be up to her to deliver her end of the deal... I know some events have up to 2 weeks of cooldown, but considering the breadth and the pace of the game, it's hard to deal with the uncertainty that something might be wrong that could force a restart :P

If my goal is to increase lewdness in school and pass the multiple PTA proposals, what's the best strategy for hypno with students - to focus on willpower at first, or to ignore that and focus on either lust, inhibition or corruption? In which case, is there one that could have a multiplying effect (such as making new events available that further advance its reduction, or similarly affect other stats)? I guess the bottom line of my question is - which stat should I focus on at first: corruption, inhibition, lust or willpower?

In parallel, will that path hurt their education? Could make sense in a realistic perspective, but since this is a game designed for fun, maybe gameplay-wise it might not, and you'd be able to have a school filled with lewd geniuses, lauded by corrupted teachers and parents?

Quote from: atonier on Jun 21, 2023, 10:01 PMI guess the bottom line of my question is - which stat should I focus on at first: corruption, inhibition, lust or willpower?

For hypno specifically it should be pointed out that Enflame Lust, Promote Corruption, and Have Sex will all hit multiple stats, and the other options all only hit the stat they say they do.

Corruption specifically is somewhat difficult to increase compared to the others, yet at the same time, while you want to hit certain thresholds - most notably 15 corruption schoolwide for the Titsbig chain - it isn't especially useful otherwise.

Quote from: atonier on Jun 21, 2023, 10:01 PMIn parallel, will that path hurt their education?

The primary way that education goes up is from classes - so unless you are scheduling nothing but Sex Ed and Gym classes, you should be fine.

Quote from: Calob on Jun 22, 2023, 01:24 AMCorruption specifically is somewhat difficult to increase compared to the others, yet at the same time, while you want to hit certain thresholds - most notably 15 corruption schoolwide for the Titsbig chain - it isn't especially useful otherwise.

I believe one important effect of corruption is that a sufficiently-corrupt person witnessing a public sex event won't cost you reputation.

Public sex is also a way to increase corruption towards that threshold, at the cost of reputation. From memory, that's the most-effective multi-person corruption effect, as long as you're keeping your reputation up in other ways. Getting a sufficiently-in-love-with-you teacher to perform oral sex in front of their class contributes nicely towards opening the Titsbig chain and the SPE Club, I recall. (Sadly, I don't think high walls offset the reputation hit in this case, as they do for nude etc. uniforms.)

(Note: I haven't really compared this with multi-target Hypno-Promote Corruption, since I usually avoid non-quest Hypno if possible. It also takes longer for this to be feasible, I think.)

guys when i am at hardman quest line i found that after i choose the second option that liking the way she was, when i go to inframary and met karin the i got 10 friendship point. is this new and can you guys spoiled me the walkthrough?

Can you tell me where I can buy a uniform for cheerleaders? Very often this event appears, I lose my reputation.

Quote from: Dimka2010 on Jul 08, 2023, 05:08 PMCan you tell me where I can buy a uniform for cheerleaders? Very often this event appears, I lose my reputation.

When the quest procs, go to the Clothing Shop on a schoolday before 4PM and place the order. It's in the dropdown menu.
I find the scheduled lunch break to be good for this though you can go at any time as long as it's Mon - Fri and you get there before 4PM.
Priscilla will explain that as a bulk order, it will take seven days.
When you receive the notification to pick up the new uniforms, return to Priscilla (she must be there) and select "Pick up new uniforms".
The Principal will ask for them to be delivered. They will be in the Gym Storage the next school morning.
Until you get them from the storage, avoid the Cheerleader club.

Considering it's procced a few times already, you should be able to go to the clothes shop and place the order right away.
Just avoid the Cheerleader Club until you get the new uniforms from the Gym Storage.

What would be a good way to get multiple people of my choosing to a location of my choice at the same time? I'm playing with the Lexville mod and I would like to get a big ol' orgy going on with all of the special characters, but I can't get people to stay in one place long enough to get everyone. I have tried hypnosis and the stay command from the Lexville mod, but neither seem to work long enough to gather everyone I'd like. Is there something I can enter into the debug menu to put a person at my location?

I worked up this excel with the information provided in the "old and outdated txt guide". My main concern was that I noticed happiness was eroding significantly, throughout the day, and I was spending most of the day time interacting with students trying to keep it up! According to this table, my class plan should be netting positive happiness. I know there are other factors to consider, such as school policies, clubs (to a degree), the fact that these are supposed to be base values affected by families, probably teachers competence, etc... It's hard to come up with a plan that suits your goals going the empirical way, since the game's pace is such that changes don't immediately become noticeable. Is there a better, more practical guide to setting up your school than the old txt guide?

Also, any suggestions on how to combine classes and policies for optimal synergy? As in: could I have fast food in the cafeteria AND increase sports to compensate, as a way to boost both happiness and health, or would that be wasteful? Do some stats naturally stay low in the early game, but increase faster as you advance and unlock more "libertine" policies?

I went through a good number of Sayoko's quests before hiring Claire Fuzushi - and haven't had any events related to Sayoko in a long time. Claire has been hired for over a month now... Is this chain broken, meaning you HAVE TO hire Claire right at the game start, or will Sayoko's events come back later?

Quote from: atonier on Jul 12, 2023, 12:02 PMI went through a good number of Sayoko's quests before hiring Claire Fuzushi - and haven't had any events related to Sayoko in a long time. Claire has been hired for over a month now... Is this chain broken, meaning you HAVE TO hire Claire right at the game start, or will Sayoko's events come back later?

From memory, if you haven't hired Claire at the time it matters, you can repeat the same event the next week (there's two possible branches that you can be in, the computer lab or lakeside) after you've hired Claire and it should trigger the path to involve her and subsequently end Sayako's questline. There should be some mention of Claire or seeing her in Sayako's video in the appropriate event.

Quote from: atonier on Jul 12, 2023, 12:02 PMI went through a good number of Sayoko's quests before hiring Claire Fuzushi - and haven't had any events related to Sayoko in a long time. Claire has been hired for over a month now... Is this chain broken, meaning you HAVE TO hire Claire right at the game start, or will Sayoko's events come back later?

have you been to the lake on Wednesday evening?

Quote from: atonier on Jul 12, 2023, 08:06 AM

I worked up this excel with the information provided in the "old and outdated txt guide". My main concern was that I noticed happiness was eroding significantly, throughout the day, and I was spending most of the day time interacting with students trying to keep it up! According to this table, my class plan should be netting positive happiness. I know there are other factors to consider, such as school policies, clubs (to a degree), the fact that these are supposed to be base values affected by families, probably teachers competence, etc... It's hard to come up with a plan that suits your goals going the empirical way, since the game's pace is such that changes don't immediately become noticeable. Is there a better, more practical guide to setting up your school than the old txt guide?

Also, any suggestions on how to combine classes and policies for optimal synergy? As in: could I have fast food in the cafeteria AND increase sports to compensate, as a way to boost both happiness and health, or would that be wasteful? Do some stats naturally stay low in the early game, but increase faster as you advance and unlock more "libertine" policies?

The stats start off low and slowly ramp up eventually leading to a snowball effect. Also, the student body itself has a 'medium' state that it tends towards from whether they be higher than it or lower than it. It does get re-checked and re-set, but I'm not sure how often.

Quote from: TBBle on Jul 12, 2023, 01:05 PMFrom memory, if you haven't hired Claire at the time it matters, you can repeat the same event the next week (there's two possible branches that you can be in, the computer lab or lakeside) after you've hired Claire and it should trigger the path to involve her and subsequently end Sayako's questline. There should be some mention of Claire or seeing her in Sayako's video in the appropriate event.

Quote from: dalzomo on Jul 12, 2023, 01:21 PMhave you been to the lake on Wednesday evening?

Thanks - it seems like Sayoko's back in game. Not having hired Claire made me forget what point of the quest I was in - eventually the lake event triggered, so we're good!

Quote from: atonier on Jul 12, 2023, 08:06 AMMy main concern was that I noticed happiness was eroding significantly, throughout the day, and I was spending most of the day time interacting with students trying to keep it up!

The happiness changes from sex and some items (notably most drinks) wears off over time, so if that's how you're trying to keep happiness up you aren't going to get anywhere.

Quote from: atonier on Jul 12, 2023, 08:06 AMAlso, any suggestions on how to combine classes and policies for optimal synergy? As in: could I have fast food in the cafeteria AND increase sports to compensate, as a way to boost both happiness and health, or would that be wasteful? Do some stats naturally stay low in the early game, but increase faster as you advance and unlock more "libertine" policies?

There's no "synergy". Each class or policy has a defined impact on stats and they don't really interact.

For instance, cafeteria fast food will increase fem students' breast sizes, and no amount of exercise will negate that.

Worth noting that each stat has a defined minimum and maximum that each person, if outside that range, will slowly shift towards, and unlocking different policies and completing quests will shift that range.

Quote from: Calob on Jul 12, 2023, 08:14 PMThe happiness changes from sex and some items (notably most drinks) wears off over time, so if that's how you're trying to keep happiness up you aren't going to get anywhere.

cafeteria fast food will increase fem students' breast sizes, and no amount of exercise will negate that.

each stat has a defined minimum and maximum that each person, if outside that range, will slowly shift towards, and unlocking different policies and completing quests will shift that range.

Lots of things I had no idea about!

Any thoughts on why the "slutty girls" quest in the Red Light District seems to have "stalled"? I overheard the first conversation, followed the girls to Red Square and knocked on the door, tried bribing the bouncer with a blowjob but he kicked me back out, then overheard another conversation about sexual encounters in the park playground, went there, found a horny worman, "helped" her... Then I've overheard twice again the conversations about the Red Light district, where it mentions it leaves a bitter taste in my memory, but might be useful to further my goals... Yet when I go to the Red Square at night, nothing happens... Tried multiple times between 23 and 1am on those two occasions and nothing. Should I have backed away instead of trying to bribe the bouncer, does that break the quest? I'm not sure if this is a vanilla quest or Lexville, sorry if posted on the wrong thread. There's no information about this in the txt file, but it could be a recent addition?

Giving the bouncer a blowjob is the 'end' of that quest. The repeating schoolyard event about the red light district is your 'reward' in that it gives students extra corruption every time it happens.

The park event is separate.

Quote from: Calob on Jul 12, 2023, 10:17 PMGiving the bouncer a blowjob is the 'end' of that quest.

Admit a hint of disappointment here ;) Is there further development of this quest planned for the future? I see an opportunity to continue in the same spirit, with a male MC being forced to "use their feminine side" to progress further and further, regardless of their gender attraction, possibly including body and outfit changes? There could be an element of submission/humiliation that would ensure that even female or futa characters would have to decide whether to subject themselves to "mild degradation" or abandon their pursuit. In the end, the "prize" could be a prostitution job where the MC could earn a bit of cash and corrupt patrons.

Hi
Can you explain how does work a hypnosis with formulas?
I see a difference chance on skill=1 and skill=100, but i don't understand actual relation change from skill level
Also how skill level affect a minigames for lockpicking and hacking? There i really don't see any difference with increasing skill

Quote from: ranemi3814 on Jul 14, 2023, 09:05 PMCan you explain how does work a hypnosis with formulas?
I see a difference chance on skill=1 and skill=100, but i don't understand actual relation change from skill level

In the Docs folder of the game, there's a file called Mind Control.pdf that gives all the formulas for that system.

Quote from: ranemi3814 on Jul 14, 2023, 09:05 PMAlso how skill level affect a minigames for lockpicking and hacking? There i really don't see any difference with increasing skill

From the VEE Op tooltip: For lockpicking, higher skill increases the width of the central zone. For hacking, higher skill increases the available time.

How do you progress in Chemistry once you've already produced enough Corruptors and Slut Makers for the Cooper quest? I mention this because I feel there's less incentive to keep spamming those, since they're pretty expensive. I remember seeing a "research" option early on, as well as a "create drug" option, but those are not available anymore, so, I guess the way to level up on Chemistry is to produce more drugs... Can you eventually sell them for a profit?

Also, is it more efficient for skill training to produce one by one, or does making maximum batches award you the same amount of experience as if you made them separately?

You progress mainly by doing research. You gain also a little each time you create a new drug.

Quote from: nemo777 on Jul 16, 2023, 10:36 AMYou progress mainly by doing research. You gain also a little each time you create a new drug.

When is the research option not available? I only have the option to produce more drugs.

Quote from: atonier on Jul 16, 2023, 01:32 PMWhen is the research option not available? I only have the option to produce more drugs.

Requirements for doing research:
* Can't be hallucinating from a prior failed research event
* Chem skill between 15 and 100 exclusive (once you've capped the research option goes away forever)
* 400 energy
* $165 in cash on hand

Quote from: Calob on Jul 16, 2023, 02:05 PMRequirements for doing research:
* Can't be hallucinating from a prior failed research event
* Chem skill between 15 and 100 exclusive (once you've capped the research option goes away forever)
* 400 energy
* $165 in cash on hand

How long does hallucination last?

Quote from: atonier on Jul 27, 2023, 10:40 AMHow long does hallucination last?

To clarify, "hallucination" here means you've had an explosive error in the "Mad Science" event, but haven't actually had the hallucination yet (which takes a few days to trigger, and only happens in specific locations).

Is there a point to the Hardman blackmail route anymore?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Jul 28, 2023, 11:03 AMIs there a point to the Hardman blackmail route anymore?

Faster?

Yeah, Blackmail is meant to be faster whereas the Mast chain is meant to win her over to your side slowly.

Quote from: Masked on Jul 29, 2023, 07:15 PMYeah, Blackmail is meant to be faster whereas the Mast chain is meant to win her over to your side slowly.

Thanks. I don't mind slowing the game down. I got the photo first but the mast angle fired and took priority.
If there's one maddeningly slow thing about this game, it has be Nina's quest.
At least with the Perrier line, you can fire it twice a week.

where can i find the dvd?

Quote from: DED04KA on Aug 18, 2023, 08:25 PMwhere can i find the dvd?

DVDs can be bought at Jack's Videos in the Shopping Mall.

EDIT: On another note: if I wanted to move a student from one club to another, is there any way of doing so outside of the using the Debug console to change their Club Chain?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Aug 20, 2023, 04:25 PMEDIT: On another note: if I wanted to move a student from one club to another, is there any way of doing so outside of the using the Debug console to change their Club Chain?

Clubs are volountary, you cannot order them order them around. But hyponziging them or talking them into swithcing club might be a nice addition.

Quote from: Zaiaku on Jul 29, 2023, 02:55 AM

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Jul 28, 2023, 11:03 AMIs there a point to the Hardman blackmail route anymore?

Faster?

It's only faster if oyu didn't build a ward and hired her early.
You can eaisly get her support before you finidh Sierra coirruption

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Sep 01, 2023, 12:54 PM

Quote from: Zaiaku on Jul 29, 2023, 02:55 AM

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Jul 28, 2023, 11:03 AMIs there a point to the Hardman blackmail route anymore?

Faster?

It's only faster if oyu didn't build a ward and hired her early.
You can eaisly get her support before you finidh Sierra coirruption

I guess if you were fast enough to corrupt everybody to pass the masturbation rule.

I managed to get Ameli Coppers to open her Maid club in classroom 3.
She wanted to move the club to a different location.
I went to the Cabaret building, received instructions from a different member of her club, talked to Stacy Slutsky about it.
But I have no clue where to go from here. When I go to classroom 3, Ameli keeps asking me whether the new room is ready, the protagonist tells her they're still working on it, the club notes state that I have instructions for remodeling a room, but when I go to the Cabaret building, I see no way to make progress.

I'm at a loss

You need money when talking to Slutsky...I think.
You should have an option at the bottom when talking to her to talk about using the property

How can you raise relationship with non quest characters? All options i have tried (gift, flirt, phone) only increase friendship. I am usually stuck with full friendship and 1 heart in relationship, and most NPC will not kiss or sex you at that point.

Quote from: Wisarddd on Sep 05, 2023, 04:11 PMHow can you raise relationship with non quest characters? All options i have tried (gift, flirt, phone) only increase friendship. I am usually stuck with full friendship and 1 heart in relationship, and most NPC will not kiss or sex you at that point.

If you have enough attraction for the NPC, you can beg her/him for a striptease. The more arousal (NPC's) - the higher the mood and the higher the chance of success. Cologne/perfume to help.

Quote from: shpungout on Sep 05, 2023, 04:25 PM

Quote from: Wisarddd on Sep 05, 2023, 04:11 PMHow can you raise relationship with non quest characters? All options i have tried (gift, flirt, phone) only increase friendship. I am usually stuck with full friendship and 1 heart in relationship, and most NPC will not kiss or sex you at that point.

If you have enough attraction for the NPC, you can beg her/him for a striptease. The more arousal (NPC's) - the higher the mood and the higher the chance of success. Cologne/perfume to help.

The archetypes "Slutty" and "Whore" also help here.

Does the fertiltiy stat even matter?

I noticed that every time the message "I wonder is she got pregnant" pops up, she always does. Shouldn't it be more random/uncertain?
It feels like not using a condom ALWAYS Results in pregnancy. Bear in mind, I am using the Pregnancy mod, so maybe it messed something up.
I am seeing pregnant 70yo's so something is definitely amiss.

On another note, some kind of facial age overlay might be nice. Add some wrinkles or something. Old people should look old.

Does the school basement do anything? I built it, gave 5000 to Keller, but nothing happens and I see no money coming in.

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Sep 06, 2023, 08:34 AMDoes the school basement do anything? I built it, gave 5000 to Keller, but nothing happens and I see no money coming in.

Bondage Class (PTA proposal and class schedule) and Basement Detention (school rules) happen there.

But wasn't it supposed to bring in money?

Quote from: Wisarddd on Sep 05, 2023, 04:11 PMHow can you raise relationship with non quest characters? All options i have tried (gift, flirt, phone) only increase friendship. I am usually stuck with full friendship and 1 heart in relationship, and most NPC will not kiss or sex you at that point.

Full friendship and a single heart should be enough to invite most NPCs over for a date. If you're attractive enough: exercised daily for couple of months, so attractiveness and stamina are full; are clean enough: shower often, as grime greatly impacts attraction in the most-recent release; catch them at the right time: their arousal level matters and as mentioned above perfume/cologne helps too; and have enough energy, you should be able to at least date people who swing your way, if not invite for a striptease or fondle without even a single date.

Note that there's a bug in the last release where friendship actually counts against NPC's willingness. Fixing that locally (see GetWillingness discussion in this message (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/hhs-1-10-0-official-bug-report-thread/msg3978/#msg3978)) will in my experience mean anyone who's not actively disinterested in the principals gender will be willing to fool around once you have that single heart.

Edit: I made a mod for the trivial local fix: https://henthighschool.net/index.php?msg=4138

If all else fails, and if I remember correctly, asking someone on a date unsuccessfully will still reward a little relationship increase, so you can just harass someone into coming to your place for a date; it's pretty labour-intensive since you can only invite someone once per day. If you're going this way, I recommend Stacy Slutzy, as having her in love with you (if she's attracted to the MC's gender) is valuable in a couple of ways. She's also easy to find on weekdays.

A date is a double-edged sword. Dates must be repeated periodically, otherwise the NPC will be offended, lose relationship and stop talking to the MC. If you are going to win the hearts of a large number of NPCs, then dating is a bad choice.

Also forgot to say that characters who are already in a relationship with someone (not "single") have a penalty for asking for sex or a kiss.

Quote from: TBBle on Sep 06, 2023, 01:20 PMNote that there's a bug in the last release where friendship actually counts against NPC's willingness.

Not bug. Just friendzone. :P

Quote from: TBBle on Sep 06, 2023, 01:20 PMFull friendship and a single heart should be enough to invite most NPCs over for a date. If you're attractive enough: exercised daily for couple of months, so attractiveness and stamina are full; are clean enough: shower often, as grime greatly impacts attraction in the most-recent release; catch them at the right time: their arousal level matters and as mentioned above perfume/cologne helps too; and have enough energy, you should be able to at least date people who swing your way, if not invite for a striptease or fondle without even a single date.

Note that there's a bug in the last release where friendship actually counts against NPC's willingness. Fixing that locally (see GetWillingness discussion in this message (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/hhs-1-10-0-official-bug-report-thread/msg3978/#msg3978)) will in my experience mean anyone who's not actively disinterested in the principals gender will be willing to fool around once you have that single heart.

Edit: I made a mod for the trivial local fix: https://henthighschool.net/index.php?msg=4138

If all else fails, and if I remember correctly, asking someone on a date unsuccessfully will still reward a little relationship increase, so you can just harass someone into coming to your place for a date; it's pretty labour-intensive since you can only invite someone once per day. If you're going this way, I recommend Stacy Slutzy, as having her in love with you (if she's attracted to the MC's gender) is valuable in a couple of ways. She's also easy to find on weekdays.

Thank you very much for pointing out the bug, I found and fixed it manually.

BTW, Stacy was never a problem, because she is slutty. But Priscilla from the cloth store is not, and the only reliable way I've found to improve her relationship is through hypno-sex.

Quote from: Wisarddd on Sep 06, 2023, 03:47 PMBTW, Stacy was never a problem, because she is slutty. But Priscilla from the cloth store is not, and the only reliable way I've found to improve her relationship is through hypno-sex.

Sally isn't easy either. I got her Relationship to 30 through a Chat Mod and still refused to strip for me. In any case, I like her so I'm not going to hypnosex her into sluttiness.

Might be because I was playing a Female Principal at the time. I'm certain that had an impact too.

Quote from: Wisarddd on Sep 06, 2023, 03:47 PMBut Priscilla from the cloth store is not, and the only reliable way I've found to improve her relationship is through hypno-sex.

What gender are you playing? She's a non-generated character and rigged to 100 male, 0 female, 0 futa attraction. So unless you're a male principal, she's never going to be naturally interested.

I just loaded my last save's futa principal, who's as I described above, and has never interacted with Pricilla outside buying uniforms.

I used debug to flip to male, and immediately had willingness 77 at zero friendship. Asking for hobbies, diong a favour (fine wine) and then a successful flirt puts her at 25 friendship. Even at 15 friendship, the flirt was acceptable out-of-the-box, so she's a much less-hard nut to crack than some have been.

And I just noticed I had my fix disabled in that save, so that was with the current buggy willingness value. I applied the fix at this point.

So then I spent the week flirting with her, asking information as I could (singleness, personal info), and doing favours as they became available. On the following Monday, I did my third favour, 6th flirt, and she hit 100 friendship and 10 relationship. And agreed to leave her work and come back to my place for a strip-tease, putting us at 16.3 relationship. She wasn't in the mood for anything more, but it's a solid base to work from.

So that seems to be working fine to me.

Update: Next day, final flirt, she was happy to do a striptease, fondle in the shower, and fuck in the shower, bringing us to 25.2 relationship, and the end of the experiment.

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Sep 06, 2023, 03:54 PMSally isn't easy either. I got her Relationship to 30 through a Chat Mod and still refused to strip for me. In any case, I like her so I'm not going to hypnosex her into sluttiness.

Might be because I was playing a Female Principal at the time. I'm certain that had an impact too.

Yeah, Sally Proudbottom's gender preferences are 100 for males, 20 for futas, and 10 for females. So unless you can affect her gender preferences, she's not going to want to do anything naturally with females or futas. Below 50 isn't considered "attracted to" by any other game mechanics either. (My own testing last round suggested the bare minimum gender preference with everything else in your favour is somewhere in the 30's, but I wasn't really pushing the limits there with cologne, and that NPC was romanceable like once in two weeks of trying.)

If you're not playing cheat mode, due to another bug, you can't really tell someone's sexual preferences until you've earned enough friendship through favours and personal info to see their (vanilla) gender-preference bars as the descriptive text you get earlier is wrong. However, if you're all attractive and clean etc., and their flirt response is still cold-shoulder, then they're likely not much into the PC's gender, and you can maybe save some gifts for someone else. (Although I never took this advice, and pushed anyone interesting until I saw their gender preference bars, but most gifts are cheap anyway.)

Quote from: TBBle on Sep 06, 2023, 04:22 PM

Quote from: Wisarddd on Sep 06, 2023, 03:47 PMBut Priscilla from the cloth store is not, and the only reliable way I've found to improve her relationship is through hypno-sex.

What gender are you playing? She's a non-generated character and rigged to 100 male, 0 female, 0 futa attraction. So unless you're a male principal, she's never going to be naturally interested.

I just loaded my last save's futa principal, who's as I described above, and has never interacted with Pricilla outside buying uniforms.

I used debug to flip to male, and immediately had willingness 77 at zero friendship. Asking for hobbies, diong a favour (fine wine) and then a successful flirt puts her at 25 friendship. Even at 15 friendship, the flirt was acceptable out-of-the-box, so she's a much less-hard nut to crack than some have been.

And I just noticed I had my fix disabled in that save, so that was with the current buggy willingness value. I applied the fix at this point.

With fix there is no problems with her (male PC). But before fix, she never accepted anything sexual on 100/10 friend/relationship. BTW, is striptease easier than kiss? Looks strange for me...

Speaking of gender preferences, I made a mini mod to change it by talking to people, to circumvent using the debugger. Plan to roll it into the hyposis thing eventually.

Quote from: Wisarddd on Sep 06, 2023, 04:44 PMWith fix there is no problems with her (male PC). But before fix, she never accepted anything sexual on 100/10 friend/relationship. BTW, is striptease easier than kiss? Looks strange for me...

Yeah, without the fix, 100 friendship is reducing her willingness by 50, and with only 10 relationship, she's likely to not be willing to do much.

Strip-tease is easier than kiss; they're in-order of increasing willingness requirement, except the shower stuff, which seems to match the non-shower versions. There's other things that will cause your action to be rejected even if they're basically willing, but those also AFAIK are ordered; I'm not aware of anything like an extra inhibition check specifically for strip-tease, for example.

I generally found two mutual fondles (or a strip-tease and a fondle if they're not keen) and then the highest-willing orgasm was pretty effective for increasing NPC relationship scores, along with inhibition and corruption improvements. I usually aim to use the shower if possible, as I'm not aware of any downsides, and not having grime from the first action carry over to the third is a small but non-zero help.

can't trigger this event from Ronda Bells quest chain
Shared Hallway: Meet random student on drugs

Quote from: Evrar on Sep 07, 2023, 03:33 PMcan't trigger this event from Ronda Bells quest chain
Shared Hallway: Meet random student on drugs

Have you had her investigated yet?

Why does my MC, who hates anal, suggest anal when talking to someone about their love interest? Shouldn't that thing be  either convo option or filtered?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Sep 08, 2023, 03:24 AM

Quote from: Evrar on Sep 07, 2023, 03:33 PMcan't trigger this event from Ronda Bells quest chain
Shared Hallway: Meet random student on drugs

Have you had her investigated yet?

quote from journal: private investigator found out she use drugs, confronted her
agreed to let her off in exchange, insisted on demo

can't have sex with "other students" (not enrolled), they say "it's against school policies"
what policies?

Quote from: Evrar on Sep 09, 2023, 07:59 PMcan't have sex with "other students" (not enrolled), they say "it's against school policies"
what policies?

Just a bug in Events\FunctionLibrary\GenSexHandling\Misc\RulePenalty.ve.xml - 100% penalty if the student does not have the "enrolled" trait.
To fix the bug, connect the "Some"-route just like the "All"-route. Or remove the "Enrolled" trait from the traits list.
(https://ibb.co/NTfDbY4)

man how can i join the discord? it always said the link is expired

What quest chain is Sarah Lovegood a part of? I can seem to figure it out

Quote from: Drossef on Sep 28, 2023, 01:54 AMWhat quest chain is Sarah Lovegood a part of? I can seem to figure it out

She hangs out with Sherlyn Ambrose, as part of the Raymund chain. She's mostly window-dressing AFAICT.

Quote from: TBBle on Sep 28, 2023, 04:36 PM

Quote from: Drossef on Sep 28, 2023, 01:54 AMWhat quest chain is Sarah Lovegood a part of? I can seem to figure it out

She hangs out with Sherlyn Ambrose, as part of the Raymund chain. She's mostly window-dressing AFAICT.

thank you very much

When the week passed the rule of dress code are fix to nude(even I haven't unlocked yet) and dress code section turn into hidden and can't change it
Even worse, every student are wearing full school uniform regardness stats, rule but game understand this is nude uniform

before
https://ibb.co/6YHHSFJ

after
https://ibb.co/sCQTTfm


https://ibb.co/XzFNnyy

Quote from: latexdog on Oct 04, 2023, 11:24 AMhttps://ibb.co/XzFNnyy

I don't recognise that uniform. Are you running any mods, and if so, which ones? My first guess is it's an out-of-date mod that has broken the uniform system somehow.

I have a question regarding the random encounter with the guy hanging off a student claiming her dad owes him a lot of money.
What exactly happens if you ignore it?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Oct 09, 2023, 12:32 AMI have a question regarding the random encounter with the guy hanging off a student claiming her dad owes him a lot of money.
What exactly happens if you ignore it?

A few days layer, the girl ends up doing porn, gains some corruption, loses a lot of happiness and willpower, some loyalty, and a bit of education. There's one image, it's not affected by the student's appearance. And that's it.

Either way, it'll repeat from the start once or twice a month, if you pass an appropriate student (female, attractive, low willpower) on the street.

I personally prefer to intervene for the small happiness and loyalty boost.

Quote from: TBBle on Oct 09, 2023, 02:32 AMA few days layer, the girl ends up doing porn, gains some corruption, loses a lot of happiness and willpower, some loyalty, and a bit of education. There's one image, it's not affected by the student's appearance. And that's it.

Either way, it'll repeat from the start once or twice a month, if you pass an appropriate student (female, attractive, low willpower) on the street.

I personally prefer to intervene for the small happiness and loyalty boost.

Thanks.
I always intervene not for any boosts but because the dude is slime.
More than once he's approached a girl that has no recorded father.

3 questions:

1- how do you advance the hacking skill beyond halfway (like 50 or something)? its stuck there and hacking porn/social media/wallpaper doesnt advance it. also needed for the underwood quest chain and i cant advance that without it.

2- how do you advance the suggestions skill beyond halfway? i cant seem to find the 'quiet place' that the detective wants for the 'practical test'. the mini-events in the park and hospital dont seem to qualify or advance suggestions anymore; neither do the mini-events in the girls locker room.

3- when does 'futa maker' drug become available from the lab? i have like 90 chemistry skill i think and its still not available.

i might have more questions in the future, im still working my way through the quest chains. thank you for your time.

Quote from: Ollie314 on Oct 10, 2023, 07:31 AM1- how do you advance the hacking skill beyond halfway (like 50 or something)? its stuck there and hacking porn/social media/wallpaper doesnt advance it. also needed for the underwood quest chain and i cant advance that without it.

If you succeed in hacking a Porn Site or Social Network, you should always gain a little bit of hacking skill. If you're failing, it caps your advancement depending on the difficulty, but the absolute maximum you can achieve from failing is 45 skill. That said, the Underwood hack is as hard as the hardest Social Network hack, or the easiest Porn Site hack, so if you're consistently passing the Porn Site hack, you should be able to pass the Underwood quest hack too.

I personally prefer "Minimum Skill" mode from Indicators & Difficulty mod (https://henthighschool.net/hhs-mods/mod-mods-barteke22-s-mod-index#msg30), so it's more deterministic, and also faster. (I'm not here for the minigames...)

Quote from: Ollie314 on Oct 10, 2023, 07:31 AM2- how do you advance the suggestions skill beyond halfway? i cant seem to find the 'quiet place' that the detective wants for the 'practical test'. the mini-events in the park and hospital dont seem to qualify or advance suggestions anymore; neither do the mini-events in the girls locker room.

The first practical test is in the women's changing room at the school, it's different from other events that can happen there, and mentions the hypnosis practical test before the first choice. However, last time I tried this, the first test really did not want to trigger for me. It only triggers if there's a single, female non-special student present, and the changing room is a fairly-busy location. (On the plus side, there's no penalty for failing the attempt when the opportunity does present itself.)

If you have hired a librarian and have high-enough suggestion, there'll be a second test mentioned when you start or visit the PI to update him on your progress; the tests can be done in any order and the second one is easier to trigger, but it's possible to soft-lock this part if every female student in the school has already lost her anal virginity.

That said, the practical test doesn't do anything special for suggestion skill growth, and particularly does not override the rule that you only gain suggestion for sex acts the first time you successfully suggest that level of act with a particular person. (Maybe it should be limited to only triggering with people whom you can gain skill from, but that'd be hard to implement right now.) So if the person you get for the locker room is someone you've already suggested into oral sex, you won't gain any suggestion skill from it anyway.

In general, be aware that the level of sex-act determines how much suggestion skill you gain. The text you get when you successfully suggest something hints at the amount you gained, which can be less than a whole point, so you may not see the number itself go up each time. When you tell yourself "more of the same is fine", that means you've done that thing to that person before, so you gained nothing. And the higher your suggestion skill, the less you gain from the act, but you always gain something from the first time. To see the actual numbers involved and the definition of sex-act levels, see Docs/Mind Control.pdf page 6.

Behaviour modification still gives skill grow on repetition, but they give less skill growth as your skill improves (varies by particular choice), and eventually caps out. At suggestion skill 50, none of the behaviour modification suggestions will grow your skill any further, and you're reliant on finding new victims. Like sex suggestions, when you tell yourself something rather than feeling it, you didn't grow your skill at all; that behaviour modification is now "too easy".

Quote from: Ollie314 on Oct 10, 2023, 07:31 AM3- when does 'futa maker' drug become available from the lab? i have like 90 chemistry skill i think and its still not available.

Futa Maker is the hardest drug to create, you'll need maxed-out chemistry skill for it normally. However, the Hardman quest chains have a couple of possible outcomes that include getting access to Karin's notes, which will reduce its creation difficulty to the same as the lactation drug, slightly harder than the modification level 2 drugs.

thank you. that information was very helpful.

Quote from: Ollie314 on Oct 10, 2023, 07:31 AM3 questions:

1- how do you advance the hacking skill beyond halfway (like 50 or something)? its stuck there and hacking porn/social media/wallpaper doesnt advance it. also needed for the underwood quest chain and i cant advance that without it.

2- how do you advance the suggestions skill beyond halfway? i cant seem to find the 'quiet place' that the detective wants for the 'practical test'. the mini-events in the park and hospital dont seem to qualify or advance suggestions anymore; neither do the mini-events in the girls locker room.

3- when does 'futa maker' drug become available from the lab? i have like 90 chemistry skill i think and its still not available.

i might have more questions in the future, im still working my way through the quest chains. thank you for your time.

I don't know how to advance the hacking skill past the point you're asking, but I can tell you I've never even bothered and I've hacked Annette's computer, the porn site for backgrounds, social media for that quest, and Underwood's quest to completion and all I've done to "train" hacking was read the book from the electronics store until it was done and then hacked those things a few times for practice if I needed it. Like, I've had some plays where the book didn't get me over the hump to hack Annette's laptop so I had to do the porn site a couple times but that's all I remember having to do. IME hacking is like the photoshop skill. Only train it if you can't do the next task it's needed for because AFAIK it's got no other use or residual benefits

To train suggestion higher you just need to keep hypnotizing new victims. Each person has a "times hypnotized" counter so you know who you've done already

test sites

The two practical test sites are the girls' locker room and the library. Library requires the librarian to be hired. They'll reroll every week-ish if you fail (just like the park and hospital hypnotisms) so just keep trying. Locker room one asks if you want to try hypnotizing a student and then "see if fellatio is in the cards." Library one has you comment that the library seems empty but the librarian says there's one person there, who you can then go hypnotize to wait at your house for fucking. You need to go to your bedroom w/i the next half hour-ish to complete that one or they'll snap out of it and leave

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I'm not certain, but I'm p sure the futa drug requires completion of Sierra's quest

Are condom packets portals to the Dimension of Unlimited Contraception?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Oct 24, 2023, 02:26 PMAre condom packets portals to the Dimension of Unlimited Contraception?

I dunno but I wish I could ban them city wide and not only at the school

Thinking of modding the church to be Catholic?

i've completed some of the teacher and PTA quest chains but im having trouble with April Raymund.
Ive reached the point where her daughter is "going to attend the school from now on. Best wait and see if any new developments come up".
Ive seen SA around town/school and reached the point "should potentially look for other places around town where she could be engaging in less-than-holy things".
Is there a specific time/place i should be looking? some specific level of inhibition/corruption i need to wait for? whats the trigger for the next step?

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Nov 02, 2023, 02:04 PMIt it normal for oral sex to not reduce lust, but increase it?

Sometimes it seem when having handjobs/oral that arousal increases instead of decreases, even tough the text specified that the MC did cum.

1. lust and arousal are two different stats. are you asking about both?
2. I have observed that arousal increases for the person giving a handjob or blowjob. That is intended behavior afaik, and I use it to get off while keeping my toys horny and ready to please me

I mean the PC engages in sex, doing 69, recieving handjobs/blowjob, description sez MC has come and is spent, and after sex my arousal bar is at max instead of being depleted. As if the Pc isn't orgasming.

Iirc, if PC is into exhibitionism and the sex is in public, this is exactly what happens

so for the new PD system it says

Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 30, 2023, 01:13 AMIf you don't like skin colour inaccuracies on old PDs, remove all (non-genital) skin colours (except #FFF9DCC3) from the skin colour Color List and [ Regenerate Database ]. Accurate shadering requires all outfits to be converted.

how do I get to the skin color list?

What does determine the abs on the paperdoll? Stamina? I've been doing cardo and avoiding weights, but there seems to be no effect and the PC is not loosing the abs. Fit does not equal muscular.

Quote from: Drossef on Nov 06, 2023, 01:43 AMso for the new PD system it says

Quote from: barteke22 on Oct 30, 2023, 01:13 AMIf you don't like skin colour inaccuracies on old PDs, remove all (non-genital) skin colours (except #FFF9DCC3) from the skin colour Color List and [ Regenerate Database ]. Accurate shadering requires all outfits to be converted.

how do I get to the skin color list?

nevermind I found it. Turns out I had the mod installed improperly

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Nov 06, 2023, 09:19 AMWhat does determine the abs on the paperdoll? Stamina? I've been doing cardo and avoiding weights, but there seems to be no effect and the PC is not loosing the abs. Fit does not equal muscular.

Technically cardio is the main route to getting abs IRL, weight lifting is more to do with the upper body.

In game it goes off Stamina + archetype / gender modifiers. Stamina also covers strength, as it's already pretty underused (and having it as a separate stat would just make 2 underused stats).  Stamina (as strength) is only relevant in like one chain.  PC's stats also don't go down afaik, as that would add even more grind.  The abs could maybe scale off of how balanced PC's workout is (currently untracked), though there's no such equivalent for other NPCs.  Fleshing all these things out comes after the actually important parts are done, abs can be disabled if you edit the Set\Body.ve.xml.

this is probably one of the weirdest questions, but is there any way to make leveling skills take less time? I'm trying to get into this game, but right now, it feels like 90% of my time is going to be taken up with a grind of some sort, be it raising skills, doing the workouts, farming events, or whatever. I understand you're supposed to work on changing your school using hypnosis and stuff, but the new player guide only tells me how to do some grinding, not any goals to shoot for or things I can unlock.

Basically, I don't know what the rewards for all the work I'm going to be putting in are going to be, so I can't tell what I should focus on.

And for that matter, I have a specific gripe about the new player guide: what is "lower" willpower? is it willpower below 50? below 60? 70? I don't know. I get that at least part of the appeal of this game is not knowing some of the changes, but I'd like options for transparency.

Quote from: worldsoul on Nov 26, 2023, 01:13 AMI'm trying to get into this game, but right now, it feels like 90% of my time is going to be taken up with a grind of some sort, be it raising skills, doing the workouts, farming events, or whatever. I understand you're supposed to work on changing your school using hypnosis and stuff, but the new player guide only tells me how to do some grinding, not any goals to shoot for or things I can unlock.

To be clear, which New Player Guide are you looking at? https://henthighschool.net/hhs/hints-for-new-players/ for example is more of a first-day walkthrough than explanation of what's going on or why you want to play the game, which sounds like the problem you're having.

There isn't really an official New Player Guide or Walkthrough. The general design of the game is that you should encounter most of the game organically: experimentation, exploration, world-clues, events that happen as you change yourself and the world around you. The world setup is that the population move towards the norm, so your overall focus is on moving that norm to be more lewd, which takes time and starts slowly, but accelerates.

At the early stages, most skills are going to be once-a-day level-ups, and those should take you into the early stages of those skills, which will start triggering the early quest chains. Some quest chains require longer-term world effects or individuals to reach certain stages before they can trigger, and while you can work specifically towards them, in many case you can't because the HasQuest flag prevents you specifically accelerating their progress. Quests are roughly balanced for the world-norms, rather than hyper-corrupting the quest-related individuals to start them. (Quest outcomes often end up hyper-corrupting the targets, but that's the point of those quest chains.)

So generally I recommend not focussing on anything early; go wide, and raise all the skills you can a bit each day, and the rest of your time is going to be wandering around the school during school time, and the town afterwards. A bunch of the sandbox systems and town stat changes are driven by events that happen as you wander about, and quest chains that aren't PI-started are usually triggered in school hallways or the school outdoor areas, with some triggered in specific areas of the school.

The actual skill requirements for quest chains are not particularly high, and some, like the club chains, have a choice of stat used to advance, so you're not required to max-out any particular stat for the quest chains. (I for example try to ignore Hypnosis beyond the book-reading as much as possible, as it's a time/energy sink and I can achieve what I want without it for the most part.)

There's a bunch of systems you can then sink time into, with what should be fairly obvious payoffs. Flirting/dating, hypnosis, chemistry (but expensive and has early penalties); some systems with less-obvious payoffs include the PI, spy cams and some of the clubs.

There are also places that simply don't do a good-enough job of providing hints or suggestions for what to do next. That's gotten a lot better over the last few releases as work has gone into things like the Smartphone quest logs, and the "Lore" NPC stats view. Some issues the developers are aware of but ignoring because the whole quest chain is intended to be rewritten, and some are probably just familiarity preventing noticing that sometimes the next step in a quest is completely not obvious. (Saw one of these in a thread recently, in fact.)

Early on, you'll be cash-strapped and school growth (new teachers, expansions) will be hard. If your school students are learning well, and you're not getting in trouble (i.e. Education and Reputation rising) then you'll get well-paid each month and cautious investment can be used to increase that. Rushing to try and activate every quest chain at once will easily send you broke (the PI is expensive), and since those chains generally don't increase your money-making capability, you can get stuck.

In the end, it's a sandbox, not a VN, so it's designed to be played in. You don't need to run every system and complete every quest line; you can't actually win the game (yet). Some people find that too undirected for their tastes, and some people find the game not sandboxy-enough.

(I have seen a more-VN-like Hypnosis-focussed appreciation of HHS+ as it happens... Hentai University (https://noodlejacuzzi.neocities.org/hentai-university/))

Quote from: worldsoul on Nov 26, 2023, 01:13 AMBasically, I don't know what the rewards for all the work I'm going to be putting in are going to be, so I can't tell what I should focus on.

The primary 'rewards' for grinding are unlocking new events and lewder event variants. All events have their own individual trigger criteria, so what happens is that as you grind, the events you see gradually become more and more lewd. It's meant to be a gradual progression.

Almost all the major rewards are done through either PTA proposals or quests, and several quests will test a particular skill or stat, with little overlap, and there's often little use for the skill after you are done with the quest.

Quote from: worldsoul on Nov 26, 2023, 01:13 AMwhat is "lower" willpower?

Willpower is functionally "defense against hypnosis" - successfully hypnotizing a person and using the "Corrode Willpower", "Enflame Lust", and "Promote Corruption" options will lower their willpower and make subsequent attempts easier. 1 willpower = 1% lower chance to hypnotize, so there's no real threshold to worry about.

How can I get slaves?

Quote from: koko253 on Nov 30, 2023, 06:37 PMHow can I get slaves?

Unless something's changed, you can have at most one slave at a time.

From memory: you need to have refurbished your home basement (through the school management system) and then go through the Missing Girl events. When you reach the end of that chain, you'll have the opportunity to rescue and release the girl, or to claim her for yourself - in which case you can chain her up in your basement, so long as you keep feeding her - and once you've completely broken her, you can release her back into the wild without negative consequences (or can keep having to feed her to keep her from starving to death on you).

Quote from: grey_shadow on Dec 01, 2023, 02:18 AM

Quote from: koko253 on Nov 30, 2023, 06:37 PMHow can I get slaves?

Unless something's changed, you can have at most one slave at a time.

From memory: you need to have refurbished your home basement (through the school management system) and then go through the Missing Girl events. When you reach the end of that chain, you'll have the opportunity to rescue and release the girl, or to claim her for yourself - in which case you can chain her up in your basement, so long as you keep feeding her - and once you've completely broken her, you can release her back into the wild without negative consequences (or can keep having to feed her to keep her from starving to death on you).

Unfortunately, I ended this event and did not choose to take the girl for myself

Quote from: koko253 on Dec 02, 2023, 05:39 PM

Quote from: grey_shadow on Dec 01, 2023, 02:18 AM

Quote from: koko253 on Nov 30, 2023, 06:37 PMHow can I get slaves?

Unless something's changed, you can have at most one slave at a time.

From memory: you need to have refurbished your home basement (through the school management system) and then go through the Missing Girl events. When you reach the end of that chain, you'll have the opportunity to rescue and release the girl, or to claim her for yourself - in which case you can chain her up in your basement, so long as you keep feeding her - and once you've completely broken her, you can release her back into the wild without negative consequences (or can keep having to feed her to keep her from starving to death on you).

Unfortunately, I ended this event and did not choose to take the girl for myself

it'll fire again in a while. Just keep ignoring solo eaters at lunch and you can train as many as you like

Quote from: dalzomo on Dec 02, 2023, 05:57 PM

Quote from: koko253 on Dec 02, 2023, 05:39 PM

Quote from: grey_shadow on Dec 01, 2023, 02:18 AM

Quote from: koko253 on Nov 30, 2023, 06:37 PMHow can I get slaves?

Unless something's changed, you can have at most one slave at a time.

From memory: you need to have refurbished your home basement (through the school management system) and then go through the Missing Girl events. When you reach the end of that chain, you'll have the opportunity to rescue and release the girl, or to claim her for yourself - in which case you can chain her up in your basement, so long as you keep feeding her - and once you've completely broken her, you can release her back into the wild without negative consequences (or can keep having to feed her to keep her from starving to death on you).

Unfortunately, I ended this event and did not choose to take the girl for myself

it'll fire again in a while. Just keep ignoring solo eaters at lunch and you can train as many as you like

I don't see the Girl eating lunch event
Where or when it should appear

Quote from: koko253 on Dec 02, 2023, 06:51 PMI don't see the Girl eating lunch event
Where or when it should appear

Did you release the girl and return her to her parents? If yes, then this is not the end of the event. After some time, she will come to your office and offer a reward. There are several branches, the longest one includes a bunch of sex scenes in the office, until the girl gets pregnant and leaves the city.

Quote from: Wisarddd on Dec 02, 2023, 08:24 PM

Quote from: koko253 on Dec 02, 2023, 06:51 PMI don't see the Girl eating lunch event
Where or when it should appear

Did you release the girl and return her to her parents? If yes, then this is not the end of the event. After some time, she will come to your office and offer a reward. There are several branches, the longest one includes a bunch of sex scenes in the office, until the girl gets pregnant and leaves the city.

Yes, this is exactly the path I chose, but I told her that I would take care of her and the son (something like this, I don't remember the exact conversation). Does this have a different effect or will she leave the city anyway?
In addition, I described pregnancy mode. Does this have an effect?

Quote from: koko253 on Dec 02, 2023, 08:34 PMYes, this is exactly the path I chose, but I told her that I would take care of her and the son (something like this, I don't remember the exact conversation). Does this have a different effect or will she leave the city anyway?
In addition, I described pregnancy mode. Does this have an effect?

Sorry, but I don't remember that much. And I've never used pregnancy mod.

In the base game, the pregnant missinggirl and her family moving away is unavoidable (as this is the point in the event that clears the states needed for the next misinggirl).

However, I believe the "I'll look after you and baby" type text is from the pregnancy mod, since the base game version of this chain never reveals the father or appears to suggest anything like that. So I guess that mod does change the behaviour, and I don't have a copy handy right now to check.

Edit: Pregnancy Mod (https://henthighschool.net/hhs-mods/mod-mods-barteke22-s-mod-index#msg29)'s latest changes says "Added Missing Girl quest integration, it's now possible to make her not leave town on pregnancy path." so yeah, what you want is probably possible, but I'm not sure at what point the missinggirl chain resets in this case. Possibly it waits until the child is born.

Edit again: I grabbed the pregnancy mod, and as far as I can see, when you have the choice of "Not my problem"; "We'll raise them together"; "She'll raise them", that will clear the state and you can after a couple of weeks, once again encounter a dark-haired daughter of unemployed parent(s), eating lunch alone in the school outdoor areas. (I didn't check, it might be possible to have the same girl again in this case, as in the base game, you're prevented from this because the family always moves away... Although not in the female-MC path. Hmm, maybe there is a check to avoid this? I did say I didn't check...)

Final edit: Not directly relevant to the question, but I noticed pregnancy mod (but not the base game version) appears to have a bug where if you take the cash reward, it won't reset the chain, so you won't get another shot at this.

Quote from: TBBle on Dec 03, 2023, 12:54 PMIn the base game, the pregnant missinggirl and her family moving away is unavoidable (as this is the point in the event that clears the states needed for the next misinggirl).

However, I believe the "I'll look after you and baby" type text is from the pregnancy mod, since the base game version of this chain never reveals the father or appears to suggest anything like that. So I guess that mod does change the behaviour, and I don't have a copy handy right now to check.

Edit: Pregnancy Mod (https://henthighschool.net/hhs-mods/mod-mods-barteke22-s-mod-index#msg29)'s latest changes says "Added Missing Girl quest integration, it's now possible to make her not leave town on pregnancy path." so yeah, what you want is probably possible, but I'm not sure at what point the missinggirl chain resets in this case. Possibly it waits until the child is born.

Edit again: I grabbed the pregnancy mod, and as far as I can see, when you have the choice of "Not my problem"; "We'll raise them together"; "She'll raise them", that will clear the state and you can after a couple of weeks, once again encounter a dark-haired daughter of unemployed parent(s), eating lunch alone in the school outdoor areas. (I didn't check, it might be possible to have the same girl again in this case, as in the base game, you're prevented from this because the family always moves away... Although not in the female-MC path. Hmm, maybe there is a check to avoid this? I did say I didn't check...)

Final edit: Not directly relevant to the question, but I noticed pregnancy mod (but not the base game version) appears to have a bug where if you take the cash reward, it won't reset the chain, so you won't get another shot at this.

Thank you for your help. If I understood correctly, I have to wait for the baby to be born until I can repeat the event again (sorry, my English is weak, so I will check if I understood you).

I wanted to know how to activate the Secret Club event. I did it once, but I failed to enter it, and since then it has not appeared anywhere.

Quote from: koko253 on Dec 03, 2023, 02:48 PM

Quote from: TBBle on Dec 03, 2023, 12:54 PMEdit again: I grabbed the pregnancy mod, and as far as I can see, when you have the choice of "Not my problem"; "We'll raise them together"; "She'll raise them", that will clear the state and you can after a couple of weeks, once again encounter a dark-haired daughter of unemployed parent(s), eating lunch alone in the school outdoor areas.

Thank you for your help. If I understood correctly, I have to wait for the baby to be born until I can repeat the event again (sorry, my English is weak, so I will check if I understood you).

Sorry, no. That was my incorrect guess. When I checked the mod, the decision you already made from the three choices of "Not my problem"; "We'll raise them together"; "She'll raise them" should have enabled the quest chain to restart after 2-3 weeks, from the "Student eating lunch alone" in one of the school outdoor areas.

Quote from: koko253 on Dec 03, 2023, 02:56 PMI wanted to know how to activate the Secret Club event. I did it once, but I failed to enter it, and since then it has not appeared anywhere.

Do you mean the club in Red Corner that you overhear about from some students on campus, and then trade a blowjob for access, but are still locked out? I believe that's the end of the quest, the reward is that you'll occasionally hear students on campus talking about the club again, and it'll add some corruption to your students each time it happens.

so... was doing the petra hooter/Susan hooter line but now i can't progress (had peter as a futa). After watching susan masturbate for the first night I can't give petra the picture afterwards. When I first tried to give her the picture there was an error message that was stupid enough not to look at and save over after it happened. The picture is gone from my inventory and petra keeps asking for it. Principle is saying they left it at home while it doesnt exist anymore... how to rollback to the first night again to retrigger it without starting over?

If youre plying with Peter as Futa, then you'll probably need my fix. There are two.
Which one depends on weather the persons (Peters) actual ID was changed... you'll probaly need HooterFix (NOT the NF version)

Bizarre question.
If I wanted to "forget" where someone lives and remove their key from my inventory, how would I go about that?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Dec 20, 2023, 08:02 PMBizarre question.
If I wanted to "forget" where someone lives and remove their key from my inventory, how would I go about that?

In gameplay? I don't think there's a mechanism for that.

In code? The key and knowledge of the address are both tags in the relationship database. The key tag is applied to each family member, not just the one you're talking to. There's also a "Security Level" for special character's homes which is cleared when you get the key, although I don't know off-hand what that's used for. (Lockpicking difficulty, I guess).

I have HHS+ throwing an error when I try searching in Petra (not Peter) Hooter's room.

operation SeqAct_TextReplacePersonContext (ID: 42).
Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: Person
Any way to fix it ?

Quote from: ConteZero on Dec 30, 2023, 07:15 AMI have HHS+ throwing an error when I try searching in Petra (not Peter) Hooter's room.

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operation SeqAct_TextReplacePersonContext (ID: 42).
Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: Person
Any way to fix it ?

Are you using a mod that makes Peter into Petra, i.e. Futa Overhaul Mod (https://henthighschool.net/hhs-mods/mod-1-10-futa-overhaul-mod/)? You probably should ask in that mod's thread. If this happened in the vanilla game after using something like the Futa Maker chemical, then it'll be a bug and should be reported in the bug report thread (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/hhs-1-10-0-official-bug-report-thread/), perhaps with more details from the exception, like which file it occurred it.

Quote from: TBBle on Dec 30, 2023, 08:40 AM

Quote from: ConteZero on Dec 30, 2023, 07:15 AMI have HHS+ throwing an error when I try searching in Petra (not Peter) Hooter's room.

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operation SeqAct_TextReplacePersonContext (ID: 42).
Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: Person
Any way to fix it ?

Are you using a mod that makes Peter into Petra, i.e. Futa Overhaul Mod (https://henthighschool.net/hhs-mods/mod-1-10-futa-overhaul-mod/)? You probably should ask in that mod's thread. If this happened in the vanilla game after using something like the Futa Maker chemical, then it'll be a bug and should be reported in the bug report thread (https://henthighschool.net/hhs/hhs-1-10-0-official-bug-report-thread/), perhaps with more details from the exception, like which file it occurred it.

Yeah, sorry.
I'm pretty green so I didn't know where to ask.

Quote from: ConteZero on Dec 30, 2023, 09:57 AMYeah, sorry.
I'm pretty green so I didn't know where to ask.

In that case you're probably want ot use my HoterFixes mod (regular, not NF version).

Check here:
https://henthighschool.net/hhs-mods/wip-more-suggestions/

Near end of thread yo uhave discussion of common Peter/Petra errors and solutions. I suggest yo uread

(just finished reading TBBle's new mod) Speaking of authority, is it just me or do teachers' authority reset or trend higher every day? I want more events like Carmen getting groped during class and Claire becoming more the cosplay club's toy but their authority always seems so high

Quote from: dalzomo on Jan 09, 2024, 03:11 PM(just finished reading TBBle's new mod) Speaking of authority, is it just me or do teachers' authority reset or trend higher every day? I want more events like Carmen getting groped during class and Claire becoming more the cosplay club's toy but their authority always seems so high

Yeah, Authority naturally rises as teachers teach, as far as I can tell.

It usually takes real effort to lower Claire Fuzushi's authority for the Cosplay Club. I think this is one of the areas it's WIPness shows: for both Authority and later Corruption, you need to have affected them significantly through other means before the club will start affecting them. (It's possible to get her Authority down just with the Cosplay Club but it takes ages, at a few points or less per week. Cosplay Club's corruption-lowering events are gated behind 35 Corruption or so, i.e. you need level 2 Corruptor drugs or level 2 Suggestion to get her over that line.)

As far as I recall, the most reliable method I found was to lower Claire Fuzushi's Authority is to trigger the "Class in Chaos" event and let her sort it out. That drops a point of authority each time, but costs like 0.1 reputation, I think. Between that and weekly Cosplay Club events (which usually drop her Authority, AFAIR) you can slowly advance her. But a good teaching week can set her back.

One possible option, which I haven't actually tried, would be to have Claire teach a class she's terrible at. But of course, you're costing student progress, which means costing RSD bonuses.

Maybe her mainline quest was supposed to end up somewhere where her Authority was either lowered, or at least lowerable, but since mainline quests usually also deliver Corruption, it wouldn't make sense for the Cosplay Club. Honestly I'd rather the Cosplay Club was built into a full main-line quest for Claire (and a Cabaret club) and her existing questline dumped since it's both painful to trigger some stages and it seems like it conflicts with personality shown in the Cosplay Club.

It's also possible that some of the teacher-abusive rules (Teacher models in Biology or nude-models in Art... is that a teacher modelling?) might lower authority. I haven't checked, and if they don't, maybe they should. Pulling Claire in as a biology model rather than the currently-teaching teacher actually makes sense here, but would affect the class schedule rather annoyingly and might not actually be fully-implementable in VEE. But since she's the designated Art teacher, that might be the go.

Another easy idea for a mod would be to give Claire a Helper job for extra-curricular Art Club nude-modelling or something. Helpers are usually post-mainline though, but maybe completing the Sayako chain would be good enough...

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Okay, I know this was a simple Authority question, but now I'm thinking that if I was to restructure Claire with a magic wand:

Sayako chain first, then that leverage gives you both "Make her join the Cosplay club" (replacing the current fairly transparent lie, although it's one of the few places you can gain Charisma IIRC), and lets her do a Helper activity that lowers her Authority and Inhibition, e.g., nude modelling for Art Students out of class. Cosplay club advances to the cusp of needing Corruption (sex...), and her Helper activity becomes A/V (AV) club actress (Oh, hey, that's another unimplemented club...) which would increase her Corruption.

Honestly, I had previous thought the Cosplay Club would flow into the Cabaret somehow (making costumes for the Sexy/Topless variants, I wrote a whole post about this idea elsewhere) but now I think it dovetails nicely with an A/V club, with Claire as the "guidance teacher" (aka "victim") for both.

(I don't recall exactly where I saw the A/V Club described, I recall it being roughly like the SPE club but for boys; it was supposed to share the computer room... Maybe have been in the bug tracker, since clubs sharing rooms on different days is maybe not implemented.)

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And back on topic, I would expect the Carmen Club to lower her Authority too, even though she doesn't even attend its meetings. (Claire never actually shows up to Cosplay Club either though... Maybe the scheduler doesn't support this either...)

I have seen Carmen in her club after its event fires, if the event's duration doesn't take us out of club time. I only ever visit in the later portion of the club time for the hardcore stuff. Maybe she doesn't show for the softcore events? But it's true I've never seen Claire in the cosplay club no matter the event. Perhaps those discrepancies should be addressed somehow

I'll have to play with hypnosis a bit to see if I have the option to reduce a teacher's authority with it. I prefer hypnosis over drugs, though I will use drugs if they're my only recourse. I recall hypnotizing a fully corrupted Susan once (I know, not a teacher - but still staff so idunno if it tracks) and the only option I had was to raise her authority, which is not what I'd want lol

Teacher modeling is for Anatomy class, Tbbile. Art lowers inhibition on its own possibly because nude models are used naturally.

Quote from: dalzomo on Jan 10, 2024, 07:01 PMI have seen Carmen in her club after its event fires, if the event's duration doesn't take us out of club time. I only ever visit in the later portion of the club time for the hardcore stuff. Maybe she doesn't show for the softcore events? But it's true I've never seen Claire in the cosplay club no matter the event. Perhaps those discrepancies should be addressed somehow

Yeah, I must have misremembered that Carmen never shows up, I haven't run that chain for a while. Sorry for the confusion.

I happened to have the Carmen Fan Club opening event open for a different discussion, and Carmen is actually added as a member of the club. (I didn't realise non-students could be added to clubs...) So the fix for Claire never showing up seems easy to me. I wonder if that ever conflicts with the Detention system though.

If the club stat-changes and body-changes could be different for the teacher and the students, then this would be a good way for Claire guiding the Cosplay Club to be slowly deauthoritied/corrupted over time even if you don't trigger the event; Similarly, making Jessica Underwood the Swim Club advisor would be a way to help boost her stamina back into the range where she can actually be an effecting Swimming teacher.

Hmm. I wonder if all the teachers have appropriate Clubs the guide... That said, the problem with this idea is that until you hire the right teacher, you ether have a random teacher guiding the club, or no teacher (the latter is probably fine...). And I don't think we want to gate clubs behind hiring, that feels counter to the system. Maybe having a guidance teacher join would let you boost the club stat effects or something.

This is mostly engine-level changes (https://henthighschool.net/index.php?msg=4876) though, so there's not much room to explore this with a mod except scheduled events to simulate the desired effect...

Quick-edit: And on the original topic, it occurred to me that I could add a simple weekly staff meeting to my 5P mod (https://henthighschool.net/index.php?msg=4827) and offer the opportunity to affect staff member teaching-related stats mildly, by e.g., supporting someone's ideas, or cutting them off at the knees, etc. This wouldn't affect stats that HasQuest is supposed to protect, it'd be closer to the Do Paperwork event or the 1:1 idea I had for 5P already.

Hmm...my cabaret upgrade isn't triggering (when I talk to Stacy Slutsky).

The cooking club didn't ask for exapnsion (the part with extra equipemtn so they can increase production is done), the music club is in the cabaret and they asked for more room, the theatre club also nothing is happening.

I think something broke.
Looking at the actual interaction, it is supposed to trigger - RentDidningRoom value is 3.

The only option I'm getting is "None... just wanted some small talk"

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Mar 21, 2024, 09:08 AMHmm...my cabaret upgrade isn't triggering (when I talk to Stacy Slutsky).

The cooking club didn't ask for exapnsion (the part with extra equipemtn so they can increase production is done), the music club is in the cabaret and they asked for more room, the theatre club also nothing is happening.

I think something broke.
Looking at the actual interaction, it is supposed to trigger - RentDidningRoom value is 3.

The only option I'm getting is "None... just wanted some small talk"

Is the cooking club in the cabaret or not? It wasn't clear. I think it needs to be there. And there needs to be more than one of these clubs advancing to be able to get to the next step.

This quest was changed to reduce the places it would get stuck at -- it used to require advancing the cosplay club as well, just because Amelie and her stupid cosplay club would go through all four, but I'm almost sure that requirement is gone. It was much easier for me to advance these clubs on 1.10.6.0 than previously (last played at 1.10.5.5).

Music club is the only one that moved in.
IT's been weeks and nothing triggers in the other clubs.

Could be that Amlies quest froze progress on other clubs or something? Could it be I advanced the music club too fast?

It's possible you've hit a bug. I recall in 1.10.6 Amelie was updated so she could visit clubs in any order, maybe something got stuck there? Do you recall which clubs she's visited?

But yeah, the Music Club can't do the upgrade alone, the cooking club needs to also want an upgrade. (The logic in the VEE file is pretty convoluted, so it might not be obvious that this is the case if you're in the debugger.)

It turns out I was right. The Music club moved out to the Cabaret BEFORE Amelie visited.
I just edited the event to ignore all checks for hte club and amlie being present, let it fire so she could "visit" and now hte other club events are starting

I've been messing around with the PopulationData folder, trying to reduce the number of men to minimum. I'm not touching the special characters, but I want everyone else to be like 75/25 female/futa. I think I can see which numbers to change, and after making some new worlds it seems to work.

However I've heard that a lot of events will never trigger if I set the number of males to 0, and school enrolments might also break. Do I need to make any other changes to make the game work properly?

Quote from: Schmee on Mar 28, 2024, 05:08 AMHowever I've heard that a lot of events will never trigger if I set the number of males to 0, and school enrolments might also break. Do I need to make any other changes to make the game work properly?

So the way the enrollment system works is that it tries to fill a balance of genders at the very beginning. So if you only have the special character male students in the game, they will all be enrolled at the beginning, and no others added to the system or classes.

Many original events were hard-coded to need a certain number of each gender in a place for it to have a chance to fire within the school.  I seem to recall someone had made a mod that corrected this issue somewhere, but I don't remember who it was by or for which version of HHS+ (1.9.5 or 1.10+).

Quote from: Schmee on Mar 28, 2024, 05:08 AMI've been messing around with the PopulationData folder, trying to reduce the number of men to minimum. I'm not touching the special characters, but I want everyone else to be like 75/25 female/futa. I think I can see which numbers to change, and after making some new worlds it seems to work.

However I've heard that a lot of events will never trigger if I set the number of males to 0, and school enrolments might also break. Do I need to make any other changes to make the game work properly?

There are some events that require males, but they can be eaisly edited not to.
THe images might not be correct, but that can also be fixed with a little bit more work.

But to keep the game from being completely broken, it would best if that was made into a mod, rather than editing the base game files.

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Mar 25, 2024, 08:18 AMMusic club is the only one that moved in.
IT's been weeks and nothing triggers in the other clubs.

Could be that Amlies quest froze progress on other clubs or something? Could it be I advanced the music club too fast?

Not only it could be, but it WILL be. None of the clubs will go to the cabaret before Amelie has her quest event in them.

Check what club Amelie is currently in, and be sure to visit it regularly.

I know the best choice for Biology out the standard teacher set is Carmen but who's the best fit for Physics and Chemistry?

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Mar 26, 2024, 07:28 AMIt turns out I was right. The Music club moved out to the Cabaret BEFORE Amelie visited.
I just edited the event to ignore all checks for hte club and amlie being present, let it fire so she could "visit" and now hte other club events are starting

I just had a quick look, and 00_ConcertStart should not have allowed the club president to request more space (the step after paying $500 to have the CD made) if Ameli hasn't already visited that club. I had a quick look at all three "Girl in Club" events, and their associated cabaret-progress events in the same folder, and nothing seemed amiss to me.

So I'm not sure how you got into that state. Did you have local modifications to Events\Location\School\Classroom Music\00_ConcertStart?

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Mar 30, 2024, 04:05 PMI know the best choice for Biology out the standard teacher set is Carmen but who's the best fit for Physics and Chemistry?

All three are 70% subject experience-based Evaluation, so the ones with existing experience are the only ones I looked at.

Physics is influenced by Natural Science, Intelligence, and Mathematics; only Beth Manili already has experience, so it comes out to: 0.7*20 + 0.3*(0.5*25+0.3*40+0.2*40) => 23.75 starting evaluation, rising quickly as she gains experience, and synergises with teaching Math. Beth's the obvious choice for teaching Math already, and that's the only other way to raise Mathematics, so these two subjects fit together naturally.

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Chemistry is influenced by Natural Science, Intelligence, and Education; Carmen Smith, Irina Jelabitch, and Ronda Bells all have experience here.

Carmen Smith has the least experience but is smart and educated, so it comes out to 0.7*15+0.3*(0.65*20+0.25*40+0.1*60) => 19.2 starting evaluation. This has some synergy with teaching Biology too, so she seems the natural choice.

Ronda Bells has slightly more experience, but her attributes are not as-suitable, so it comes out to 0.7*20+0.3*(0.65*20+0.25*40+0.1*40) => 22.1

Irina Jelabitch should be roughly the same as Ronda Bells, but somehow has 0 experience in Natural Science teaching despite experience in Chemistry teaching, so it comes out to 0.7*20+0.3*(0.65*0+0.25*40+0.1*40) => 18.2 (I think this is maybe a bug, and she should have non-zero Natural Science experience, given she has Chemistry experience...)

I think Carmen Smith seems the right teacher there, as Biology synergises well, and experience is the fastest thing gained.

That said, if you already have Beth Manili teaching Math and Physics, then her starting evaluation in Chemistry will be 0.7*0+0.3*(0.65*25+0.25*40+0.1*55) => 9.525 which is half the others, but will rise quickly with experience. So if you're keeping Carmen Smith exclusive to Biology for quest-chain reasons, Beth can do the job, and it synergises well with Physics and slightly with Math, so I expect she'd overtake Ronda and Irina pretty quickly too.

(Edit: For some reason I thought Carmen's quest chain was run in the Biology classroom, but that's not the case...)

(Carl Walker similarly has no chemistry teaching experience but good stats: 0.7*0+0.3*(0.65*0+0.25*50+0.1*50) => 5.25. His Math score is similarly low due to lack of experience: 0.5*0+0.5*(0.7*5+0.3*50) => 9.25. But his stats are pretty good across the board, and he has areas of experience that are harder to fill otherwise, so I wouldn't prioritise him here.)

Anyway, once you have Anatomy class going, Carmen should be teaching that too, so Chemistry will end up as a third subject for either Beth or Carmen, as it's outside their major subject family (Mathematics and Life Sciences respectively) and both have roughly similar synergies with their main two classes. So really, by the time you have Chemistry, you probably have hired both Beth and Carmen, and can check their in-game evaluation stat bar; both will give increasingly good results as they accumulate experience. Both Beth and Carmen can tutor TSE/PSE, so that might be a third subject for whoever's not teaching Chemistry... and TSE is more Carmen's bag than Beth's.

So my final call now is I'd probably put Beth into Chemistry for more long-term benefit and to keep Carmen focused on Biology for the quest-chain and Life Sciences/TSE overall as the subject list grows.

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Anyway, there's a reason Beth's always my first hire... And worth noting that her quest-line bumps Education and Intelligence by 10 once you finish it, and up to 4 on approximately weekly repeat-visits, so she can become very good in the non-experience measures if you give her the attention she craves.

If I ever get back to my 5P mod (https://henthighschool.net/hhs-mods/mod-1-10-6-0-poc-5p-proper-principalling-prevents-poor-pteaching/), being able to pre-interview teachers and have them tell you what their best subjects are might be interesting.

Quote from: TBBle on Mar 30, 2024, 05:59 PMlots

That's certainly comprehensive, thank you!

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Mar 30, 2024, 04:05 PMI know the best choice for Biology out the standard teacher set is Carmen but who's the best fit for Physics and Chemistry?

There's a mod by barteke called "Teachers Compendium" that allows you to check how good each teacher is at each subject. Plus, hiring other NPCs as teachers.

Quote from: TBBle on Mar 30, 2024, 04:27 PM

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Mar 26, 2024, 07:28 AMIt turns out I was right. The Music club moved out to the Cabaret BEFORE Amelie visited.
I just edited the event to ignore all checks for hte club and amlie being present, let it fire so she could "visit" and now hte other club events are starting

I just had a quick look, and 00_ConcertStart should not have allowed the club president to request more space (the step after paying $500 to have the CD made) if Ameli hasn't already visited that club. I had a quick look at all three "Girl in Club" events, and their associated cabaret-progress events in the same folder, and nothing seemed amiss to me.

So I'm not sure how you got into that state. Did you have local modifications to Events\Location\School\Classroom Music\00_ConcertStart?

Well, Amelie WAS blocking the other clubs. I head to cheat a bit to get the other club events to fire, but now everything is working.

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Apr 10, 2024, 11:58 AMWell, Amelie WAS blocking the other clubs. I head to cheat a bit to get the other club events to fire, but now everything is working.

So the Music club chain actually has a couple of checks before she'll show up.  You need to have heard the club playing good music, Amelie cannot be rogue or in detention, you need to have hired either Susan Hooter as your secretary or Lydia Swan as your PA, AND there need to be at least 4 fem/futa members including Amelie present in the club for this to not be blocked.  Personally, I find it triggers most often after I've paid the club president $500 for CD production - like literally the next minute.