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Gameplay questions

Started by barteke22, May 27, 2022, 11:38 PM

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TBBle

Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 01, 2023, 10:16 PMI'll start stalking the hallways I guess. Does it require a specific uniform policy because I had progressed to nude uniform and only recently regressed it back to normal in a check for missed events with plans to go back to sexy and maybe bondage eventually.

Yeah, nude uniform blocks a _lot_ of events, including some quest chains, because the images and text generally refer to clothing. I'm not sure if bondage uniform is as-heavy a blocker, but I did notice it blocks the final PSE chain event, and I expect it's likely to block a bunch of events too.

Apart from those two, generally any other uniform (free choice, normal in a range of colours, sexy) will be allowed for events, usually picturing a fairly standard uniform unless the event is uniform-level specific or possibly has multiple image variants.

AFAIK no quest-chain events rely on nude or bondage uniform, and due to the nature of how images are sourced and text is written, it'd be a massive effort to support those uniforms in existing events, so I doubt this'll ever change. It'd be nice if there was a way to let players know that a chain can't progress due to uniform (or other) school policy, perhaps that could be added to the smartphone notes. (Although I don't remember in this case if PSE has smartphone notes...)

Alternatively, maybe a game option to ignore nude/bondage uniform checks in events, i.e. a player-choice to accept that students will appear in events wearing uniforms they aren't actually wearing in-game. For non-quest events, this would be fairly easy to implement as there's a shared function that handles this check...

Hmm, sounds like a feasible mod...

dalzomo

This is killing me. I haven't given the breast reduction drug to anyone, but since you mentioned it I've been paying attention and I don't see a lot of large breasts in my school at all. What even is considered "large" in this context anyway? I finished the Lindsey Melkers quest so she's got some honkers but she's the only one of her kind. If I just start giving a few girls in every class the highest tier breast growth drug will that do the trick eventually?

TBBle

The actual filter here is sizes 5-10 (possible range is 0-10) while the default female student template generates in the range 1-6, so this should match about a third of the generated female student population. Felicia Titsbig, Ginny Nightshade, and Mandy Meyers all have size 5 breasts and are non-special (AFAIR), so would meet this criteria, and can also serve as a visual reference.

Lindsey Melkers' breasts start at 6, and end up at 8 (This chain needs some work... The first treatment still leaves her unchanged at 6, despite the text) so she'll also count for this event.

dalzomo

Quote from: TBBle on Apr 06, 2023, 11:48 PMThe actual filter here is sizes 5-10 (possible range is 0-10) while the default female student template generates in the range 1-6, so this should match about a third of the generated female student population. Felicia Titsbig, Ginny Nightshade, and Mandy Meyers all have size 5 breasts and are non-special (AFAIR), so would meet this criteria, and can also serve as a visual reference.

Lindsey Melkers' breasts start at 6, and end up at 8 (This chain needs some work... The first treatment still leaves her unchanged at 6, despite the text) so she'll also count for this event.
Before the update I did manage to get the event to fire by distributing breast growth drugs to a few girls in a class. So thanks :D

I has a new question. Do the goals that you pick at the beginning of your game actually do anything? Like, if I pick the incest goal, will I eventually be able to get the Hooters and Hardmans and other families to actively fuck or is it just like, handwaved as assumed to be happening offscreen, or is it something to justify the principal's relationship with their sibling?

TBBle

They don't do much right now. Off-hand the only one I'm aware of is that the Incest goal affects the flow of the Sayako's event text at one point (as does the Incest fetish), but that doesn't meaningfully affect the event's gameplay effects right now.

A quick check in 1.10.05 shows this system being mostly cosmetic at the moment, I don't think victory conditions are ever evaluated, or even well-defined enough to be evaluated, e.g., Futa Slavery would require a bunch of mechanics that just don't exist in the game events. It would make more sense to be a Futa Cure goal, that could play off the Sierra Hardman quest line, as could the Futa Supremacy goal. Neither does though.

Ruffra

Is there any way to alter a character's sexuality in a direction other than toward the MC's gender?

⚧ Squark

Quote from: Ruffra on Apr 11, 2023, 12:08 AMIs there any way to alter a character's sexuality in a direction other than toward the MC's gender?
I don't know if this still applies to 1.10.5.1 (I'm sure it does) but in previous builds you could Debug it to have NPCs in love with each other but nothing ever happens. Also, this response:
"I do like someone but I don't think they even look at me." which is honestly heartbreaking.

So, yes but there's no point.

TBBle

I'm not sure if this ever happens in the base game, but if two NPCs have an uninduced sexual interaction, their attraction towards each other should grow (for some possible interactions, at least). Before 1.10.5.0, this would have been an instant "Guess I'm bi now" but from the release notes, this has been made more-gradual.

That said, if there are NPC-NPC sex events in the game, I suspect they're already checking gender-attraction match when choosing participants.

dcsobral

Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 06, 2023, 05:01 PMThis is killing me. I haven't given the breast reduction drug to anyone, but since you mentioned it I've been paying attention and I don't see a lot of large breasts in my school at all. What even is considered "large" in this context anyway? I finished the Lindsey Melkers quest so she's got some honkers but she's the only one of her kind. If I just start giving a few girls in every class the highest tier breast growth drug will that do the trick eventually?

But have you done something that might, say, make the girls lose weight? Such as diet food in the cafeteria?

dalzomo

Quote from: dcsobral on Apr 16, 2023, 03:09 AM
Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 06, 2023, 05:01 PMThis is killing me. I haven't given the breast reduction drug to anyone, but since you mentioned it I've been paying attention and I don't see a lot of large breasts in my school at all. What even is considered "large" in this context anyway? I finished the Lindsey Melkers quest so she's got some honkers but she's the only one of her kind. If I just start giving a few girls in every class the highest tier breast growth drug will that do the trick eventually?

But have you done something that might, say, make the girls lose weight? Such as diet food in the cafeteria?

I did (and do in my new game) have diet food selected. I was not aware it might lower breast sizes so severely. I was able to trigger the event by distributing breast growth pills so I'm good now

⚧ Squark

This is weird. I have Sally Proudbottom at Friendship 34 (I got her a DVD that was NEARLY her favourite), three gifts and she still refuses to give me her number ("I hardly know you!").
Did I boob it up by NOT checking the Debug for her favourite DVD?

Zaiaku

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Apr 18, 2023, 07:30 PMThis is weird. I have Sally Proudbottom at Friendship 34 (I got her a DVD that was NEARLY her favourite), three gifts and she still refuses to give me her number ("I hardly know you!").
Did I boob it up by NOT checking the Debug for her favourite DVD?
I've actually had that happen to me, I was able to fix it by helping her relationship to 3. Of course I didn't get her friendship to 35 so that might be it too.
Corrupting Students since 2006

Albatross

Quote from: TBBle on Apr 02, 2023, 04:36 AM
Quote from: dalzomo on Apr 01, 2023, 10:16 PMI'll start stalking the hallways I guess. Does it require a specific uniform policy because I had progressed to nude uniform and only recently regressed it back to normal in a check for missed events with plans to go back to sexy and maybe bondage eventually.

Yeah, nude uniform blocks a _lot_ of events, including some quest chains, because the images and text generally refer to clothing. I'm not sure if bondage uniform is as-heavy a blocker, but I did notice it blocks the final PSE chain event, and I expect it's likely to block a bunch of events too.

Apart from those two, generally any other uniform (free choice, normal in a range of colours, sexy) will be allowed for events, usually picturing a fairly standard uniform unless the event is uniform-level specific or possibly has multiple image variants.

AFAIK no quest-chain events rely on nude or bondage uniform, and due to the nature of how images are sourced and text is written, it'd be a massive effort to support those uniforms in existing events, so I doubt this'll ever change. It'd be nice if there was a way to let players know that a chain can't progress due to uniform (or other) school policy, perhaps that could be added to the smartphone notes. (Although I don't remember in this case if PSE has smartphone notes...)

Alternatively, maybe a game option to ignore nude/bondage uniform checks in events, i.e. a player-choice to accept that students will appear in events wearing uniforms they aren't actually wearing in-game. For non-quest events, this would be fairly easy to implement as there's a shared function that handles this check...

Hmm, sounds like a feasible mod...

This would be a really good mod. Maybe also a Free uniform option where students can use any of the unlocked uniforms.

TBBle

Quote from: ⚧ Squark on Apr 18, 2023, 07:30 PMThis is weird. I have Sally Proudbottom at Friendship 34 (I got her a DVD that was NEARLY her favourite), three gifts and she still refuses to give me her number ("I hardly know you!").
Did I boob it up by NOT checking the Debug for her favourite DVD?

35 Friendship should be enough, so yeah, getting the movie slightly more-correct would probably have gotten you over the hump. Having her stay the night also unlocks this.

Otherwise, 60 relationship or loyalty will do work too, although I think 60 relationship with only 34 friendship would only happen due to quest-driven effects, e.g. Beth Manili falling in love with the MC through the power of math, not friendship.

Zaiaku

I forgot, but raises Charisma after you're done with the book?
Corrupting Students since 2006