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Gameplay questions

Started by barteke22, May 27, 2022, 11:38 PM

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oratorio

Quote from: squark on Nov 11, 2022, 07:00 PMNon-Hypno Seduction seems very difficult at least, virtually impossible at worst.
Given that even at max friendship (100), most of the NPCs will have a relationship score of 10.
Flirting only increases arousal and even then, by a miniscule amount (~2).

Anybody got any usable tips? I don't want to rely on Hypno or Drugs if it can be helped.

At that point you can ask for their phone number. Calling them up to just chat continues to improve relationship to the point where you can ask them on a date. The logic for them saying yes is different for in person ask and over the phone ask so try both.

squark

Quote from: oratorio on Nov 13, 2022, 12:59 PMAt that point you can ask for their phone number. Calling them up to just chat continues to improve relationship to the point where you can ask them on a date. The logic for them saying yes is different for in person ask and over the phone ask so try both.
Calling them to chat increases relationship -- until it hits 10. After that and Friendship 100, it only increases Loyalty. At least, that's all it reports an increase to.
You can get their phone number at Friendship 30+.

The ones that want drugs are a little bit of a pain. I generally circumvent this by asking about their parents and their parents jobs. Gets the +10 bump but without the drug effect.

TBBle

Quote from: squark on Nov 13, 2022, 04:18 PMThe ones that want drugs are a little bit of a pain. I generally circumvent this by asking about their parents and their parents jobs. Gets the +10 bump but without the drug effect.

Yeah, if you do all 7 flirts perfectly, you don't need to do all three levels of gifts to hit the 100 friendship/10 relationship in most cases, because there's a couple of other chats that give once-off friendship. As well as "What are your hobbies?", for adults, it's "Are you single?" (even if they're not), and for students it's "Who're your parents?" and "What do they do?". Some students don't have in-game parents so the option won't exist, which I suspect is an oversight. I think adults can also give points for "Are you a virgin?", but you already have to have a good relationship for that to work, and if they're not receptive, or you ask repeatedly, (or you were the one they lost their virginity with...), that'll cost you friendship.

In my last run, I triggered the Jeremy Hood encounter a few times, but taking the purse and returning it instead of learning lockpicking. Half the time, you end up with a new friend at about 35 friendship, who's then pretty easy to flirt up to 100 if you want without any gifts. (For some reason, they're never in the location at the end of the event, but always on the next location towards downtown, whose name escapes me. An oddity of how they're pulled into the event and then path back to where they're supposed to be at the next time-increment, I guess).

It's been a while since I played last, so it's possible I've misremembered some of the above details.

chewbacc555

NPC's relationships:
1) do NPC interact with each other, and develop friendships/relationships without player input? Is it different for parents, students, and teachers?
2) what does the option to tell NPC to find love do?
3) can the player influence the relationship between two characters? How?

squark

Quote from: chewbacc555 on Nov 22, 2022, 07:35 AMNPC's relationships:
1) do NPC interact with each other, and develop friendships/relationships without player input? Is it different for parents, students, and teachers?
2) what does the option to tell NPC to find love do?
3) can the player influence the relationship between two characters? How?
1) For parents and teachers, I don't really know for sure. Going to say "no". With students, there are random events that influence their relationship score with each other but I don't think that matters a damn. I remember using the debug console at one point with two students but when I asked "Are you single?" it always returned with "There is someone I like but I don't think he/she notices me."
I would like for some students to start as a couple - happens all the time in Middle and High Schools.
2) I believe its original purpose was to attempt to do the very thing I tried using the debug to do.
3) Outside of PTA support events (Hooter; Peter and Susan's Relationship scores do increase) I think that's not a thing we can do. And even then, nothing seems to happen between them.
Every so often I was expecting to see that Susan hot become pregnant with Peter's kid but nothing happened.

Hah, that last line there could be a blackmail route for Susan's (begrudging) PTA support if anybody was to write it.

kikikoko

how do you ask people out on a date?

squark

Quote from: kikikoko on Nov 22, 2022, 05:24 PMhow do you ask people out on a date?
Over the phone. If the game considers them viable, there will be an option for it.

dcsobral

Quote from: chewbacc555 on Nov 22, 2022, 07:35 AM2) what does the option to tell NPC to find love do?

If they don't fall in love with you, then asking again later will cause them to tell about their, uh, experiences.

Lag.more

sorry man, but where can i get the discord link ? the one on the website when i try to join keep sayin either it was expired or somethin i forgotn my photography memory sucks