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General observations, musings and ideas

Started by ElPresidenete, Nov 16, 2023, 09:26 AM

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Zaiaku

I do think that the two quest lines should be merged at some point, but God knows where. I think it's Ameli's MAID quest that should be altered. The rest of the cabaret does well enough in bringing in money and corrupting the city, so unless the MAID club gets lessons from Carmen Kox and her colleague in prostitution, I really so reason for it to exist.
Corrupting Students since 2006

TBBle

I thought the MAID club was intended to move into prostitution. It has Sex Club and Slave Club levels defined but not implemented in VEE. All the Cabaret clubs have unimplemented levels, on examination... And I had to go look up a word for one of them. ^_^

I do agree that the current Jenny Coppers mainline quest is unsatisfying. Drug-mindbreak isn't really my thing though, so there's personal bias in that, it's unlikely it'll ever be a chain I actively like. It's also incomplete as far as I recall, and I have no idea where it was intended to go once they start messing with the other person (Ms. Rodriguez?). Maybe it's supposed to be a way to build into city-wide drug impacts? Like Mad Science but quest-driven.

It fills the slot of "mainline quest that requires chemistry", in the same way that the Titsbig quest-line does for Hypnosis.

I don't see a strong need myself to try and merge the two Coppers's lines, I suspect it'd either make them too convoluted and/or interdependent, forcing an ordering, or be in-effect dropping one of the two anyway, and making one of the characters a mere side-character in the other chain.

I generally like the newer setup with the Hardmans quest-lines crossover, but it does mean I don't want to start on Karen until I've finished with Sierra now, so that interleaving has its down sides. At least Sierra is advanceable daily, Ameli's chain is slow/random and depends on a bunch of other things, so interleaving it with Coppers would slow that down.

Also, Ameli provides a starting-point for the Caberet-club chains, prompting you to open new clubs that you might otherwise ignore. And frankly, I like the Ameli Coppers club-hopping sequence events. It gives the school a bit of life early one, before random sex-events start to become overwhelming.

Zaiaku

I guess in the end, the MAID club could absorb the other three clubs to make the cabaret into a bordello with the theatre and music clubs having a similar occupation to the old school oiran or geisha.
Corrupting Students since 2006

TBBle

The other clubs also have prostitution-type (or that level of sex-stuff, anyway) variations in their spec but not yet implemented with events.

ElPresideneteTopic starter

What occured ot me is that we could have NPCs visiting the player at home.

Hm..for that I would need to get the NPC with the highest friendship? Or at least above a certain treshold.

Furrin Gok

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Jan 30, 2024, 07:24 AMWhat occured ot me is that we could have NPCs visiting the player at home.

Hm..for that I would need to get the NPC with the highest friendship? Or at least above a certain treshold.

If you can figure out how it works, Object Lists can apparently grab a list of people, and then filter them out based on stats. If you filter it out during the Try phase, you can fail it early if the list winds up empty, an execution can then draw upon the shrunken list to pull someone at random.

ElPresideneteTopic starter

Quote from: Furrin Gok on Jan 31, 2024, 07:40 AM
Quote from: ElPresidenete on Jan 30, 2024, 07:24 AMWhat occured ot me is that we could have NPCs visiting the player at home.

Hm..for that I would need to get the NPC with the highest friendship? Or at least above a certain treshold.

If you can figure out how it works, Object Lists can apparently grab a list of people, and then filter them out based on stats. If you filter it out during the Try phase, you can fail it early if the list winds up empty, an execution can then draw upon the shrunken list to pull someone at random.

Friendship isn't a stat. It would have to be a database querry.  Get a list of NPC whoss frienship or relationship towards the PC is high enough (let's say over 50?)
Then you'd also have to check if the NPC in question is supposed to be at work at this time.
Also, add a small random chance at the very beginning, you wouldn't want visits to be too frequent.



barteke22

It's the same as the Relationship one, but
AND data.dataValue >= 50 AND data.dataKey = 'Friendship' instead of
AND rel.value >= 50

ElPresideneteTopic starter

thanks. Implemented it. Now we have to see if it works (can't really test it at work)

ElPresideneteTopic starter

Reagding teachers, Irina Jelabitch doesn't seem to have anythings, so I might as well make my swimming teacher event chain about her. Things is, she is not a swimming teacher, but that can easily be fixed by her wanting to expand on her skills and asking to be put to swimming.

That, or I can take that swimmign teacher from Lexville (or is it futamod?). Very similar, also blonde.

Now question is - pervy teacher that spies on students that you can blackmail/encourage or student that is blackmailed/used by a bunch of students? Or both (she spies and get caught and blacmialed, perhaps you arrange it)?

Furrin Gok

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Feb 06, 2024, 11:33 AMReagding teachers, Irina Jelabitch doesn't seem to have anythings, so I might as well make my swimming teacher event chain about her. Things is, she is not a swimming teacher, but that can easily be fixed by her wanting to expand on her skills and asking to be put to swimming.
Checked out the debug menu, apparently there's a bio attached?
{Name} is a former english teacher with an affinity for sex ed. {He} is surprisingly strong and unpredictable.The only location I can find these details in game is with Barteke's mod, but I was able to confirm that this is a default bio through the File Editor, so I suspect she was intended to have something involving English clash instead, perhaps bringing up erotic novels instead of the standard fair as a Policy.
QuoteThat, or I can take that swimmign teacher from Lexville (or is it futamod?). Very similar, also blonde.
Lexville's Lara Ellis may be better for swim-related stuff, yes. Her Special Character file does not include a bio, so she does not seem intended for anything, and is simply a skimpy-dressing lady. Skimpy attire fits well into swimsuits, plus her skill with swimming is decent. The skills she excels with are Art and Computer though, so if you're going by best skills, it may be worth making a new teacher.

dcsobral

Quote from: ElPresidenete on Feb 06, 2024, 11:33 AMReagding teachers, Irina Jelabitch doesn't seem to have anythings, so I might as well make my swimming teacher event chain about her. Things is, she is not a swimming teacher, but that can easily be fixed by her wanting to expand on her skills and asking to be put to swimming.

That, or I can take that swimmign teacher from Lexville (or is it futamod?). Very similar, also blonde.

Now question is - pervy teacher that spies on students that you can blackmail/encourage or student that is blackmailed/used by a bunch of students? Or both (she spies and get caught and blacmialed, perhaps you arrange it)?

I think you need a new teacher, a futa one. I realize that would get the whole quest chain blacklisted (if the person blacklists futa) but hear me out.

I don't particularly care for futa, and that led me to realize that most events at the beach seem to be about futa revealing themselves, and that does make some sense thinking about female swimsuits. A futa swim teacher could partake in some of that theme in their questline. Furthermore, we have one male teacher and no futa teacher, all the other teachers being female, so it would fill an empty niche.

ElPresideneteTopic starter

Yeah, there is a blonde futa swimmign teacher that is added with one mod (futa or lexville) that would be perfect.

Also, the teacher doesn't necessarily have to start as a futa. Turning her into one might be part of the quest. If he already lusts after her students, giving her an extra incentive to act one it, ya know?

But that might not workd well for the idea of a several female student blackmailing and sexually abusing a teacher. Or it might.
Again, I CAN make it brahcnhing/variable so the teacher could be either.

TBBle

Quote from: Furrin Gok on Feb 06, 2024, 11:49 PMChecked out the debug menu, apparently there's a bio attached?
{Name} is a former english teacher with an affinity for sex ed. {He} is surprisingly strong and unpredictable.The only location I can find these details in game is with Barteke's mod

This should be the bio that appears in the staff management UI?

ElPresideneteTopic starter

I'm having trouble finding good images for "students bullying teacher" ... thinking I might scrap the idea on account of that.