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[Feedback] Gameplay and Balance discussion

Started by Goldo, May 18, 2022, 02:32 PM

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turbotator

I am having an issue where after 10 or so minutes, the transitions between areas becomes slower and laggier. Is this an issue where my girl packs are too high in quantity? Is there a recommended size for the girl packs as well as number of packs present in a run? 

neronero

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Quote from: Congressman Weiner on f95zoneStill enjoying this game; updating my girl packs and so on.  But I still haven't figured out what goes in the "Misc." box on the girls' items.
The honorable Congressman Weiner raises a valid point. It doesn't really make sense to display the equip slot for one-time-consumables. Or is it reserved for unreleased items/mods?
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GoldoTopic starter

Quote from: neronero on Apr 02, 2023, 08:42 AM
Quote from: Congressman Weiner on f95zoneStill enjoying this game; updating my girl packs and so on.  But I still haven't figured out what goes in the "Misc." box on the girls' items.
The honorable Congressman Weiner raises a valid point. It doesn't really make sense to display the equip slot for one-time-consumables. Or is it reserved for unreleased items/mods?

The 'Misc' slot is the last light from a long-dead design idea and will disappear in 0.3.
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DougTheC

Quote from: turbotator on Mar 31, 2023, 11:27 PMI am having an issue where after 10 or so minutes, the transitions between areas becomes slower and laggier. Is this an issue where my girl packs are too high in quantity? Is there a recommended size for the girl packs as well as number of packs present in a run? 

Step 1, make sure you are using the latest version release; the number will show on the startup menu screen.
Step B, move girls folders out until you have about 40 remaining (which is what I use when my hard drive isn't crashing) and see if it helps. Best to start a new game after moving girl folders.

But really, lags have only been seen during Monday weekly processing with over 100 or so girl folders, and possibly by people who change to allow large number of brothel girls.
Let us know after trying these tips.
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neronero

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Quote from: kokmaker, post: 10793580, member: 5598178Is there any way to turn off the level up notification (preferably for specific girls)? Often happens when you spent all your perk points but are limited by rank so you can't spend it until possibly a lot later. It's not a huge deal, but it does irk me like having a pebble in your shoe.

Quote from: Gutsandguts, post: 10794649, member: 324734Yeah I kinda wish the game had an auto-levelling system, seeing that little icon annoys me when I can't be assed checking each individual girl every day, especially when the game starts getting a bit slow.
^ Interesting idea, reminds me of a mechanic in a gladiator management game called "Age of Gladiators", where you can start a playthrough with an option called "Let the Gods Decide", that takes leveling control away from you. I really liked that feature, it adds to the replayability of the management game and forces you to adapt & hedge bets (probably not as fun for min-maxing playstyles, but that's why it's an option)
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GoldoTopic starter

Quote from: kokmaker, post: 10793580, member: 5598178Is there any way to turn off the level up notification (preferably for specific girls)? Often happens when you spent all your perk points but are limited by rank so you can't spend it until possibly a lot later. It's not a huge deal, but it does irk me like having a pebble in your shoe.

If you're not afraid to get your hands a little dirty, open 'BKscreen_home.rpy' in notepad or a code editor, look for line 197:
            if girl.perk_points or girl.can_spend_upgrade_points():
                b = True
                break

And comment out 'b = True' by adding a hashtag (#) in front of it.
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Yasaki74

Building structures should waste more time and cost more and maybe more structure to build

Iconic9875667

Currently 64 cleaners struggle at times to clean up after less than half that many staff so i feel cleaners are not efficient enough. (is there any way to edit files to either adjust cleaning done each or increase limit on cleaners?)

Also i feel weapon shop sells to many MC items, 8 of the 14 inventory slots are currently angel staffs or death dispensers

GoldoTopic starter

Quote from: Iconic9875667 on Aug 05, 2023, 08:22 PMCurrently 64 cleaners struggle at times to clean up after less than half that many staff so i feel cleaners are not efficient enough. (is there any way to edit files to either adjust cleaning done each or increase limit on cleaners?)
I assume this is with all the furniture upgrades?
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GMWinters

Random suggestion: I'm not sure if this would be minor change or require sorting through a lot of spaghetti, but I'd like to suggest separating "group" from "sex" in terms of the the game's assumptions.

Make the type of group acts produced depend on what other acts the girl has active.
i.e. If she only has Service active then it's a blowbang, etc.

The reason I mention it is that as it stands, you can have a virgin girl with service and anal active and sex inactive but if you want her to get spitroasted, the game forces her to have vaginal intercourse to do it.

GoldoTopic starter

Quote from: GMWinters on Sep 01, 2023, 09:07 PMRandom suggestion: I'm not sure if this would be minor change or require sorting through a lot of spaghetti, but I'd like to suggest separating "group" from "sex" in terms of the the game's assumptions.

Make the type of group acts produced depend on what other acts the girl has active.
i.e. If she only has Service active then it's a blowbang, etc.

The reason I mention it is that as it stands, you can have a virgin girl with service and anal active and sex inactive but if you want her to get spitroasted, the game forces her to have vaginal intercourse to do it.

This is already the case when whoring, virgin girls with group assigned should not have sex (unless they are assaulted).

Currently a girl will lose her virginity during group training, and special group events. Although there are other ways to raise her group preference, I guess I could add an option for virgin group training.
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rioma_03

I'm kinda new into the game, but I'm surprised how detailed the raising stats system works. Feels like a Fire Emblem game but for degenerates, LOL. Although, I do have a suggestion, which could make training certain stats easier.

I've noticed that certain jobs raise certain skills. For example, waitress raise charm, while dancer raise body. But sometimes, other stats go up, too, and it feels pretty random. It would help greatly that the jobs remained consistent on the points they raise, so that you can work on traits your girl needs to focus more.

After giving the forum a glance, I assume that the story after chapter 3 (where you can't catch the kunoichis, anymore) is still a work in progress. If needed be, I could give some ideas for the story to progress, too, however I could.

GoldoTopic starter

Quote from: rioma_03 on Sep 03, 2023, 09:50 AMI'm kinda new into the game, but I'm surprised how detailed the raising stats system works. Feels like a Fire Emblem game but for degenerates, LOL. Although, I do have a suggestion, which could make training certain stats easier.

I've noticed that certain jobs raise certain skills. For example, waitress raise charm, while dancer raise body. But sometimes, other stats go up, too, and it feels pretty random. It would help greatly that the jobs remained consistent on the points they raise, so that you can work on traits your girl needs to focus more.

After giving the forum a glance, I assume that the story after chapter 3 (where you can't catch the kunoichis, anymore) is still a work in progress. If needed be, I could give some ideas for the story to progress, too, however I could.

Jobs are consistent, but they have major and minor stat boosts:
Waitress will always (attempt to) raise Charm, often raise constitution, sometimes raise obedience/beauty/body and sometimes lower sensitivity.
Dancer will always raise Body, often raise libido, sometimes raise constitution/charm/refinement and sometimes lower obedience.
Masseuse will always raise Beauty, often raise sensitivity, sometimes raise refinement/libido/body and sometimes lower constitution.
Geisha will always raise Refinement, often raise obedience, sometimes raise sensitivity/charm/beauty and sometimes lower libido.

Note that I say 'always attempt to', but there is a random roll and the higher a stat gets, the harder it becomes to raise it.

Here is what it looks like in details:
Spoiler

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You may argue on the specifics of which skill raises what, but the key features are:
- Although it's more efficient to swap jobs regularly, you can specialize your girls in a couple of jobs and not do too badly (which would be hard if only a couple of stats were raised for each job)
- Jobs have more impact on the first 4 skills, sex acts have more impact on the next 4 skills
- Overall, it's balanced, and all skills have the same number of jobs or sex acts that may increase or decrease them

I think the system works fine for it's intended purposes, but I welcome feedback on whether it succeeds or not on its own terms.
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GMWinters

Quote from: Goldo on Sep 05, 2023, 08:42 AMJobs are consistent, but they have major and minor stat boosts:
Waitress will always (attempt to) raise Charm, often raise constitution, sometimes raise obedience/beauty/body and sometimes lower sensitivity.
Dancer will always raise Body, often raise libido, sometimes raise constitution/charm/refinement and sometimes lower obedience.
Masseuse will always raise Beauty, often raise sensitivity, sometimes raise refinement/libido/body and sometimes lower constitution.
Geisha will always raise Refinement, often raise obedience, sometimes raise sensitivity/charm/beauty and sometimes lower libido.

Note that I say 'always attempt to', but there is a random roll and the higher a stat gets, the harder it becomes to raise it.

Here is what it looks like in details:
Spoiler

[close]

You may argue on the specifics of which skill raises what, but the key features are:
- Although it's more efficient to swap jobs regularly, you can specialize your girls in a couple of jobs and not do too badly (which would be hard if only a couple of stats were raised for each job)
- Jobs have more impact on the first 4 skills, sex acts have more impact on the next 4 skills
- Overall, it's balanced, and all skills have the same number of jobs or sex acts that may increase or decrease them

I think the system works fine for it's intended purposes, but I welcome feedback on whether it succeeds or not on its own terms.

My feedback is that this chart needs to be included with the game download or in the readme thing. Super useful and I spent an embarrassingly long time trying to remember where I'd seen it.

GoldoTopic starter

I think it would rather belong on some kind of wiki like that. If we include tips on game mechanics in the readme then 1/ not many people will read it and 2/ it's pretty random to include just this one.
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